Long term thinking in a short term game

[CouchCoach]

The stumbling block in getting this QB deal done seems to be the term of the contract and the Cowboys do not want to find themselves back here again in 4 years. Prescott is young enough that he will most likely get another contract and they evidently fear he will improve and deliver and they will be at his mercy and the mercy of a QB league gone wild.

Well, what did SF do when they had Montana, GB when they had Favre, NE when they had Brady and KC with Smith? Got the replacement before they needed him.

This seems very simple to me in this rags to riches to rags league and windows of opportunity. Where was SF in 2018? 4-12, second worst record in the NFC and in 2019? 13-3, best record in the NFC and in the SB. One year, two different teams. Will they be able to hold that team together? Probably not but who cares? They took that one to the Big Dance.

If they're concerned about the solution with the next contract with this QB, don't be, don't even consider another contract with him. They hired a QB oriented HC, make his assignment to find the next franchise QB before this QB's contract expires because he's hitting the bricks before or when it expires. That is his priority #2.

This keeping the family together thinking has no place with successful teams. If the Niners could part with Montana, Rice and Lott and GB with Favre and NE willing to trade Brady, long term thinking has no place in today's NFL. View every player, including the Witten's, as passing through and a hired gun. Every player is expendable and replaceable by the team, not on their own.

Accept that their not going to keep the band together, it's going to be like Poco, not often the same players from album to album but great players along the way.

Now, get this done. Get all of the players either gone and replaced or renewed and the team set for the season. No hold out distractions like they had last year, get the team ready for the season, a season of nothing but the game of football, not the business of football.

There is no team in all of sports with built in opportunities for distractions like the Cowboys. The team was inconsistent last season and underachieved because of distractions. The job of any FO is to limit those, not create them. Get the football team all about football.

 

[jazzcat22]

Give Dak a 4 year deal like he wants. Structure it so they can get out in 2 to 3 years if he does not perform like he thinks he can.
In the mean time look for another QB to develop as your back up / trade if Dak does perform. If he brings a few SB's, then he will be worthy of another contract. If not, then move on at that time.

No matter what happens they will eventually need to pay some QB those big bucks.

 

[CouchCoach]

Give Dak a 4 year deal like he wants. Structure it so they can get out in 2 to 3 years if he does not perform like he thinks he can.
In the mean time look for another QB to develop as your back up / trade if Dak does perform. If he brings a few SB's, then he will be worthy of another contract. If not, then move on at that time.

No matter what happens they will eventually need to pay some QB those big bucks.

Yes and paying this one seems to be a bit of a stumbling block for them. I still think there are some in that FO not on board with him as the long term QB.

 

[CATCH17]

Yes and paying this one seems to be a bit of a stumbling block for them. I still think there are some in that FO not on board with him as the long term QB.

If every football fan and expert in America is debating it then you know they are as well.

Especially when it’s confirmed that Jerry is constantly asking if they are sure if he is the guy.

I think the old ways of doing things are what the Jones’s will stick with.. They won’t be trendsetters.. They will follow everyone else’s lead and just cave to whatever Dak wants.

Maybe they get a 5 year deal if they are lucky. If it’s 4 or under it’s a big win for Dak’s team

 

[cern]

Players in today's nfl are like pokemon cards
Made to be acquired and traded at will. Sadly, what coach said is right. the game has become one of mastery of short term thinking. The future is now.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Cowboys should draft this kid in the 4th.
Cole Mcdonald: 6'4", 220 lb

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Does anyone remember the '85 Bears? With their stout defense and their strong running game.

The Cowboys are stuck on finding their new set of triplets and that's holding them back, IMO. Paying too much attention to the offensive side of the ball. Its like Parcells said, "you can't dial 1-800- quarterback and get a quarterback." He said that because, if you don't have that super stud QB then your best option is to build up on the defensive side of the ball. In the salary cap era you can't let one player or one position hold this team hostage. Especially if he is not a super stud future hall of famer.

If we didn't re-sign Dak we could go after players like SS Justin Simmons, DT Leonard Williams, or DT Micheal Brockers. Not to mention re-signing some of our own like B.Jones, R.Quinn, and M.Collins. If we build a defense to go along with Zeke, Pollard and this offensive line all we would need is a bus driver at QB. Just saying.

Bill Parcells is one of the all time greats for a reason.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Cowboys should draft this kid in the 4th.
Cole Mcdonald: 6'4", 220 lb

I like this guy. I was hoping he'd come out early so we can get him in one of the late rounds. His arm strength and deep ball accuracy in McCarthy's westcoast offense would be something worth seeing.

 

[CouchCoach]

Cowboys should draft this kid in the 4th.
Cole Mcdonald: 6'4", 220 lb

There are some QB's behind the big 3 that are intriguing but the question is when should they take one? Guess that depends on what they do with Prescott because if they tag him, they have to take one and probably in the 1st round. They need D help but that would have to pull the trigger on a QB in the 1st and maybe the following year as well.

The problem with the Cowboys and their QB evaluating is that they're always looking for a suitable backup, not the eventual starter. Ironically, we're lucky that didn't break that mold by getting Lynch.

And here's where I like the idea of McC and Moore evaluating QB's because neither has ever done that for the Cowboys.

 

[CATCH17]

Does anyone remember the '85 Bears? With their stout defense and their strong running game.

The Cowboys are stuck on finding their new set of triplets and that's holding them back, IMO. Paying too much attention to the offensive side of the ball. Its like Parcells said, "you can't dial 1-800- quarterback and get a quarterback." He said that because, if you don't have that super stud QB then your best option is to build up on the defensive side of the ball. In the salary cap era you can't let one player or one position hold this team hostage. Especially if he is not a super stud future hall of famer.

If we didn't re-sign Dak we could go after players like SS Justin Simmons, DT Leonard Williams, or DT Micheal Brockers. Not to mention re-signing some of our own like B.Jones, R.Quinn, and M.Collins. If we build a defense to go along with Zeke, Pollard and this offensive line all we would need is a bus driver at QB. Just saying.

Bill Parcells is one of the all time greats for a reason.

I agree with everything you’re saying but I do think if you dial 1 800 Quarterback now days you can find some quality as opposed to back then. I think QBs are just far more prepared for the NFL now days coming out of college and if you put most of these guys in an optimal environment then they can give you 20ish + TDs and 15 or under INTs minimum.

 

[Jake]

Give Dak a 4 year deal like he wants. Structure it so they can get out in 2 to 3 years if he does not perform like he thinks he can.
In the mean time look for another QB to develop as your back up / trade if Dak does perform. If he brings a few SB's...

A few SBs? Are we talking about the team managed by Jerry and Stephen Jones?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cowboys should draft this kid in the 4th.
Cole Mcdonald: 6'4", 220 lb

Mike White pt. 2.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Mike White pt. 2.

No way, bro. This kid can light it up.

People referred to Mahomes as another Mike White type. Look at him now. That's what Cole Mcdonald is. Another gunslinging Mahomes type.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree with everything you’re saying but I do think if you dial 1 800 Quarterback now days you can find some quality as opposed to back then. I think QBs are just far more prepared for the NFL now days coming out of college and if you put most of these guys in an optimal environment then they can give you 20ish + TDs and 15 or under INTs minimum.

15 picks can kill a team.......especially if they are only throwing 20 touchdowns.......

 

[jazzcat22]

A few SBs? Are we talking about the team managed by Jerry and Stephen Jones?

I guess I should have added...in spite of Jerry and Stephen....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No way, bro.

I've never seen him play. Didn't see Mike White play each other. Just saw the same highlight reel I saw from Mike White prior to drafting him. Deep balls in college don't really impress me. Jamarcus Russell threw deep ball in college. So when I see highlight reels full of them.......I try to find more qualities in a qb than that. Mind you Romo wasn't some great deep ball thrower in college but in the NFL Could throw them.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I've never seen him play. Didn't see Mike White play each other. Just saw the same highlight reel I saw from Mike White prior to drafting him. Deep balls in college don't really impress me. Jamarcus Russell threw deep ball in college. So when I see highlight reels full of them.......I try to find more qualities in a qb than that. Mind you Romo wasn't some great deep ball thrower in college but in the NFL Could throw them.

I understand and agree. Check out some of Cole McDonald's games on YouTube. Kid can make most throws.

 

[nightrain]

The Cowboys are their own worst enemy. They stupidly inflate their own players value with reckless public commentary and completely lack any semblance of transition planning from a very good player by trying to obtain some exit value for that player via a trade.

The Cowboys often pay good players top talent contracts and continuously find themselves with less than starting caliber talent on the depth chart behind them. The top heavy roster is starting to show signs of becoming a problem and the strategy remains the same.

Coach offers a good divergence from the just pay them strategy. Franchise Dak, bring in a quality FA QB who will do a 1 yr deal and draft or sign a developmental QB. Players that want things their way should only be allowed to get their way elsewhere. Zeke and Lawrence are two good examples of players that were overpaid and wanted to do things according their plan. That, so far, has not worked out great for the Cowboys considering what it has cost them.

Desperate teams with a lot of cap space make some highly speculative decisions. Maybe the Cowboys can find another Minnesota out there to help them move a player and get some significant draft capital in exchange.

 

[CATCH17]

15 picks can kill a team.......especially if they are only throwing 20 touchdowns.......

20ish.. Meaning 20-29 somewhere... 15 or under..

That is if you put them on a team like Dallas and go tell them to not lose the game.

We don’t need a guy gun slinging us to victory with how this team is currently built.

If you’re team needs that then that is where you can get into trouble and we just don’t currently have that situation in Dallas.

 

[JJHLH1]

It should be a 4 year deal for Dak. That is fair to both sides and gives Dak another bite at an even bigger apple when he is 30 and should be in his peak years.

If the Cowboys won’t offer a 4 year deal then Dak should hold out.