Dak's contract is going to be a bargain in 3 or 4 years if we sign him now?

[Dunks3001]

Stafford was the highest paid QB like 3 years ago I think. And at the time he never won a playoff game. I don't think he even won a division title. Everyone made a huge fuss over it for about a minute and then the next QB deal came through and the next and the next. Now Stafford's 27mil a year contract looks like pennies. Same thing will happen with Dak. Pay him. Salary will go up. Other QBs will be paid more in a couple years. His contract won't be an issue.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Stafford was the highest paid QB like 3 years ago I think. And at the time he never won a playoff game. I don't think he even won a division title. Everyone made a huge fuss over it for about a minute and then the next QB deal came through and the next and the next. Now Stafford's 27mil a year contract looks like pennies. Same thing will happen with Dak. Pay him. Salary will go up. Other QBs will be paid more in a couple years. His contract won't be an issue.

Stafford is held as the example of how not to do it, even today. He's the poster child for why you don't handle contracts after this fashion.

His contract will be an issue because it already is. Saying his contract won't be an issue is, as yet, unknown. If he is the guy who can lead you to a championship, then I agree with your statement 100%. If he is not, then his contract will be an issue the entire time he is with the team and likely even after he leaves.

 

[atlantacowboy]

"carry the team" - another misused phrase. I should make a list of all the hot take phrases some fans spew to defend their anti-dak stance.

Yes, god forbid we hold Dak to any kind of standard.

 

[SkywalkerSteele]

Exactly...They screwed the pooch not signing him last year and prioritizing the RB position first. No franchise does that

 

[wrongway]

What you're proposing means forfeiting this season. They aren't going to do that. There is too much talent on this roster to go that route.

If I had a dollar for every time I heard how talented this team is. Year after year, decade after decade. All just talk, tired of talk.

 

[Frozen700]

Saying Dak has "super average skills" is...dumb. He was the only QB in the top-5 in both air yards and accuracy last year. Not sure how that counts as average. Literally no quarterback in the league threw it as far and as accurately as he did last year. Not one.

But please, keep blathering about how he has average skills.

Yeah ok, you keep telling yourself that. If live to see the excuses when he falls flat in his face next year.

"He's still injured!"

"Is the medical staff not telling us something"



#DontpayDak

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard how talented this team is. Year after year, decade after decade. All just talk, tired of talk.

You know, reluctantly, I'm forced to agree with this take, or at least what I think your take might be. To me, it's a foundation thing. If you don't build on a solid one, you end up with what you see now. A bunch of talented players who can't win games. If the choice is continue with a broken methodology or break it all up and start over, I think I'm for start over as well.

 

[Swagger]

Dak needs Dallas more than Dallas needs Dak.
Dak on a team with below average Oline and limited running game equals a below average QB.
I like Dak...seems like a good dude off the field and represents the Star well but he's not a franchise QB right now.

Dallas can pay for a bus driver type QB and be successful by building talent around them.
Good Oline
Great RB
Good WR
You don't HAVE to have a top 5 QB.

This pretty much nails it.

We have seen a glimpse of what he plays like when he doesn't have a formidable offensive line and Zeke running the ball - the Falcons game sticks in my head from a few years back. The coaching didn't help him out to be fair but he was also unable to read the play, adjust and suggest putting a tight end to chip away the edge.

If Prescott ever has to play on a bad team then well...

 

[garyo1954]

Disagree. Dak's contract won't look like a bargain in 3 or 4 years.

Going in to 2020 there are 4 QBs scheduled to make more than $30 Million this year. Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins, Ben Roethlisberger, and Russell Wilson. 10 behind them will crack $20 million. Garoppolo, Foles, Ryan, Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Brissett, Carr, Alex Smith, Stafford, Newton.

Alex Smith is likely not playing for anyone. This is the last year of Kirk Cousins contract. Foles, Flacco, Brissett, Carr, and Newton are likely being moved.

Total 14 QBs over $20 million this year. 9 of those 14 have been to the Super Bowl.

In 2021, there are 7 over $30 million. Carson Wentz will be one of them. There are 5 over $20 million.

Total 12 QBs over $20 million.

2022, 5 over $30 million, 4 over $20 million.

2023, Russell Wilson is scheduled to make $39 million, Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz $34 million, and Jared Goff $30 million. Aaron Rodgers drops to $28 million.

The only contracts remaining in 2024 is Carson Wentz $32 Million and Jared Goff $26 million.

All told, $30 Million dollar QBs are still rare. Yep. We will definitely be setting the market. While everybody else is enjoying the freedom of having some money to spend.

 

[Ranched]

Will the Dak madness ever stop?!

 

[Future]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard how talented this team is. Year after year, decade after decade. All just talk, tired of talk.

Doesn't matter if you're tired of it. This team is talented.

 

[Philmonroe]

Saying Dak has "super average skills" is...dumb. He was the only QB in the top-5 in both air yards and accuracy last year. Not sure how that counts as average. Literally no quarterback in the league threw it as far and as accurately as he did last year. Not one.

But please, keep blathering about how he has average skills.

Completion percentage isn’t accuracy smh. People still out here parroting that bs. The top 4/5 throwing yards guys didn’t even make the playoffs so shows how much that junk really means. Dak is average as hell. You put him on the Bengals bet he the Bengals don’t get markedly better. Hell without Cooper last year we probably have a new qb because we saw what Dak does with just average wr talent

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The thread says that Dak's contract will be a bargain in 3 or 4 years. I wonder, how many years does everybody think this contract will run for? I, personally believe it will be a 5 year deal. I mean, that seems to be the norm with QBs I think so with what we've seen recently, that means 4 years and then we are right back at the table or in a hold out situation. So with 3 or four years time frame, where is the value? Signing a player to a contract that is not a bargin for the majority of the contract, theoretically, is not a very attractive proposition to me.

IDK, maybe I'm alone in this opinion. I just don't see the value.

 

[G2]

Yes, god forbid we hold Dak to any kind of standard.

An unrealistic one, good point.

 

[Hadenough]

The Notion that we cant win while paying Dak is not true because...

1. The Cap is continuously going up

2. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson are going to reset the market like crazy.

3. We should be building through the draft anyways.


That's why it's important we do it NOW and not wait this thing out.

Daks deal will look terrible if the Cowboys go 4 years and have won the division once. I just dont get why half these people think it's ok to pay a mediocre QB top 5 money. 160 mil for one division title is gonna be laughable.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Dak at 32 million for 5 years would already be looking like a great deal right about now.

Could have possibly signed him for that before last season. It will be 35 minimum now. And he may not even want to sign this year now.

Dak will sign for more, but will it be enough more to make up for the money he could have made in 2019?

Not sure exactly what offer the Cowboys had on the table regarding a new contract in 2019, but Spotrac shows Dak had about a $2M base in 2019.

Did the Cowboys have $30M on the table for 2019? If so, Dak left $28M on that table.

His future contract will have to be significantly higher to make up for that lost money. A four year deal would have to be $7M higher per year just to break even, ignoring the time value of money. A 5 year deal would have to be $5.6M/yr. higher, and a 6 year deal $4.7M/yr. higher.

Is Dak's agent demanding a number that will financially justify the decision to leave all that money on the table in 2019?

The Cowboys might have made a mistake by not signing, but Dak may have also.

 

[MaaS]

It sounds like the big hangup has been this very issue. Dak wants to be able to renegotiate shortly after the new CBA. Dallas doesn't want to do that. I'd guess Dallas either caves and goes with a 3 year deal at Wentz money or gives a Dak an ACV that feels high today, but will likely be a bargain deal down the road.

 

[glimmerman]

Dak will sign for more, but will it be enough more to make up for the money he could have made in 2019?

Not sure exactly what offer the Cowboys had on the table regarding a new contract in 2019, but Spotrac shows Dak had about a $2M base in 2019.

Did the Cowboys have $30M on the table for 2019? If so, Dak left $28M on that table.

His future contract will have to be significantly higher to make up for that lost money. A four year deal would have to be $7M higher per year just to break even, ignoring the time value of money. A 5 year deal would have to be $5.6M/yr. higher, and a 6 year deal $4.7M/yr. higher.

Is Dak's agent demanding a number that will financially justify the decision to leave all that money on the table in 2019?

The Cowboys might have made a mistake by not signing, but Dak may have also.

That’s the way I feel. He could have signed a 3 or 4 year extension last year and still been able to cash in again after new CBA.

 

[KMY_Amber]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard how talented this team is. Year after year, decade after decade. All just talk, tired of talk.

Yep, the most over-rated roster in history is the Cowboys roster dating back to even the latter Romo years.

But if this is indeed a talented roster filled with gems everywhere, then the coaching staff must have reeked all these years...and this indeed may be true.

 

[Redball Express]

The Notion that we cant win while paying Dak is not true because...

1. The Cap is continuously going up

2. Watson, Mahomes, Jackson are going to reset the market like crazy.

3. We should be building through the draft anyways.


That's why it's important we do it NOW and not wait this thing out.

It is true if Dak is not winning at an elite level.

Or he pokes along like he is now..

throwing for meaningless yardage in losing games playing catchup..

you will see paying Dak the top salary will not produce rings for the franchise.

It will just be like adding 30 weight oil to a high performance engine.

It will slow down and eventually need repair sooner. And wait until the repair estimate comes in.

Dak is going to slow the team down with his monies and we will all see the change by December when the playoff pushes have to go down.

Stand by.