Twitter: Broncos Poised to Make Cowboys' CB Byron Jones 'Top Target' in Free Agency

[quickccc]

sorry its simple rumor has it he wants 16mil a year..BYE!

BUT IMO i watch them play and they are very similar in the way they cover and BTW Carr had 8ints in 4years before his FA and came here and got big money at the time , he at least got 6 picks his first two years and has 21 career INTs,4 brought back for TDs..

So the dude made plays dont act like Jones MR did you see me cover but no splash plays but want 16mil a year hasn't even approached Carrs output Carr had 6 in 2 years after he left.

I like BJ but no way he should get elite money hes really good but 2nd tier IMO you have the best lockdown guys and then after that BJ ...id give the guy 10-12 per similar to Jsmith ...16!NO

lastly Ramsey got way too much from the rams IMO..hes a bit better then jones but I wouldn't have paid hm that much with the draft picks, they got hosed..did he help the rams, last I checked didnt they finish 3rd in the division? missed the playoffs? they have done this a lot with contracts and FAS.. they lucked into a SB from a blown call and now have slipped..its a lesson dallas can see first hand with Goff and Ramsey..

if he really wants 16 im going to the draft and someone in day 2 FA market..

I thought Rams got " hosed " because they simply panicked, .. (all across the board) more than just trading for Ramsay,.. they panicked because they thought they were losing ground to
what they were in 2018, they were just in the Super bowl vs Pats, and with the Marcus Peters trade failing them miserably- because Wade Phillips failed him as a DC in not properly scheming him …vs Peters immediately flourishing in Raven land per trade.

- And this was a team that thought since they were just in the Super Bowl vs the mighty Pats, they were just one player away from finally sealing it. They gambled to go for it all thru excessive spending and trading, That was their plan.

- But they had no answer to Gurley’s knee ( before he re-signed for that monster contract ) which they obviously thought was clearly behind him, and add injury to insult,.. and they really got harpooned with Gurley, that massive contract and his chronic knees, …. Too bad they couldn’t come up with a Tony Pollard like we did, eh ? ( ironically Rams drafted Pollard’s teammate Henderson but seldom played) (which the overrated Goff really needs play action sequences to be at his best)

- Suh, Talib, Brandon Cook, etc. either trading high picks here and there … granting high dollar contracts to vet FA here and there, .. and I saw their plan as more trying to BUY their championship title - instead of adding one or two elite players as a middle ground to adding it to a core of drafted players of Donald, Goff , Woods,
Fielding all of their draft picks and salary cap into trades and break the bank FA,... until they don’t have anything picks to trade , and any more available salary cap to spend.

- And that sounds much like what the NY Giants and Jax tried to do awhile back,.. and that’s the kind of strategy that sent them backwards for years to come.

- I may have my gripes about Stephen Jones in how he operates in Free Agency in some sense,, but there’s two areas I not only admire him for but so thankful he is sensible in.such as not committing big, long term contracts to “average “ players, ..and not using (“misusing”) the available cap salary to go an all -out spending spree in Free agency, that could end up bankrupting and leaving this team
empty and void of high draft picks and in salary cap horror.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So the only two options are a franchise quarterback and a backup quarterback?

According to some it’s only backup and elite.

 

[blueblood70]

There's too many Crawfords, Austins, Bennetts, Cobbs, Browns, and Collins to let go before I start letting young talented players like Jones walk away. Byron's not a ball hawk, he's not even a ball sparrow. He is however a young solid cover corner who's been consistent and reliable for 5 years in the NFL. He's not easily replaceable and leaves a gaping hole upon his departure. Another hole in a team that looks like Swiss cheese going into 2020 already. Dak, Amari, Quinn, and Jones are my priority free agents. It frees up your draft resources to take the best player available rather than reaching for a need. It's how you land players like Ruggs instead of reaching for players like C.J. Henderson.

for 16mi, per>?nah hes another player like the ones that are demanding elite money but are just really good..how many of those can we afford to keep? #4 and 19 also doing the gimme gimme gimme bs..id like them all but not at those steep inflated prices..

 

[tyke1doe]

According to some it’s only backup and elite.

That's not me. There's a continuum. Back up (R.G. III), young blood (Kyler Murray), bus driver (Case Keenum), above average (Matthew Stafford), elite (Lamar Jackson), franchise (Patrick Mahomes).

 

[kskboys]

That's not me. There's a continuum. Back up (R.G. III), young blood (Kyler Murray), bus driver (Case Keenum), above average (Matthew Stafford), elite (Lamar Jackson), franchise (Patrick Mahomes).

Lamar is not elite. Elite QB's don't crapp the bed as he did in the Champ game.

 

[tyke1doe]

Lamar is not elite. Elite QB's don't crapp the bed as he did in the Champ game.

He is elite. He was responsible for leading his team to a 14-2 season. He's just not a proven franchise quarterback. And, personally, I don't think he's going to hold up more than three years, not at the pace he's running.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's not me. There's a continuum. Back up (R.G. III), young blood (Kyler Murray), bus driver (Case Keenum), above average (Matthew Stafford), elite (Lamar Jackson), franchise (Patrick Mahomes).

I would put stafford up there with the 2nd tier or close to it. Romo esq I would say.

Love the Murray kid. But based on how some reacted to Dak's rookie year where he won rookie of the year, made the pro bowl, team went 13-3, and he was in the conversation for league MVP............there would be trolls on here calling him a backup and wanting to cut him. LOL

Thats how dumb it has been on here with Dak.

 

[mattjames2010]

for 16mi, per>?nah hes another player like the ones that are demanding elite money but are just really good..how many of those can we afford to keep? #4 and 19 also doing the gimme gimme gimme bs..id like them all but not at those steep inflated prices..

What do you guys not understand about the cap? Jones is 100% worth that money. That’s money top corners got close to 2-3 years ago

You folks could never run a football team or a business, in general.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He is elite. He was responsible for leading his team to a 14-2 season. He's just not a proven franchise quarterback. And, personally, I don't think he's going to hold up more than three years, not at the pace he's running.

Definitely a tough QB to grade. He 100% benefits from incredible coaching and system that is designed 100% for him. He would probably still be riding the bench here in Dallas or floundering under Garrett.

Based on his first two years starting I think you have to put him just outside elite. One of the best years by a QB of all time. But like you, I want to see more than just a year or so from this Kid. I also feel like he will have a short run with this style of offense and it will catch up with them. The key for him will be how can develop into a true pocket passer that can also use his legs as a secondary option. And not just play action passing type stuff.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What do you guys not understand about the cap? Jones is 100% worth that money. That’s money top corners got close to 2-3 years ago

You folks could never run a football team or a business, in general.

LOL...........Make Zeke the highest paid RB ever, cut your young franchise QB, and make a CB that hasnt picked off a pass in 4 years the top paid corner in the NFL? LOL

Jones is arguably the worst CB I have EVER seen at ball skills. The worst. And its not even close.

Talk about running a franchise? Based no your advice, this team would be under 500 for generations. You are hands down the absolute worst poster I have EVER seen when it comes to analysis. You dont even understand the basics of QB play, football 101, the salary cap, or current contracts. You have gotten everything wrong about Dak you have ever uttered and still going strong on it.

 

[Hennessy_King]

LOL...........Make Zeke the highest paid RB ever, cut your young franchise QB, and make a CB that hasnt picked off a pass in 4 years the top paid corner in the NFL? LOL

Jones is arguably the worst CB I have EVER seen at ball skills. The worst. And its not even close.

Talk about running a franchise? Based no your advice, this team would be under 500 for generations. You are hands down the absolute worst poster I have EVER seen when it comes to analysis. You dont even understand the basics of QB play, football 101, the salary cap, or current contracts. You have gotten everything wrong about Dak you have ever uttered and still going strong on it.

I keep telling everyone he is a great athlete and an average football player at best. Zero instincts and zero ball skills. Once he loses a step it's going to be ugly. Hence why he can't play zone to save his life and gave up that throw to Jared Cook to finish our season in 2016

 

[CowboyRoy]

I keep telling everyone he is a great athlete and an average football player at best. Zero instincts and zero ball skills. Once he loses a step it's going to be ugly

Look, he is a good cover guy. No doubt. But he definitely isnt worth top CB money. These guys cry about value and overspending yet they want to sign Jones and Zeke for top money. But lets cut our 4th year franchise QB that has had an incredible first 4 years as a QB in this league? Mindless ideas.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Look, he is a good cover guy. No doubt. But he definitely isnt worth top CB money. These guys cry about value and overspending yet they want to sign Jones and Zeke for top money. But lets cut our 4th year franchise QB that has had an incredible first 4 years as a QB in this league? Mindless ideas.

Hes a good MAN cover guy.

 

[Runwildboys]

He is elite. He was responsible for leading his team to a 14-2 season. He's just not a proven franchise quarterback. And, personally, I don't think he's going to hold up more than three years, not at the pace he's running.

No offense, but that certainly doesn't sound elite. I don't understand how someone who hasn't proven himself to be a franchise QB can be elite. IMO, franchise QB is a level or 3 below "elite".

 

[Swagger]

I would put stafford up there with the 2nd tier or close to it. Romo esq I would say.

Love the Murray kid. But based on how some reacted to Dak's rookie year where he won rookie of the year, made the pro bowl, team went 13-3, and he was in the conversation for league MVP............there would be trolls on here calling him a backup and wanting to cut him. LOL

Thats how dumb it has been on here with Dak.

The dumb people are those that treat every single quarterback as though they play behind the same offensive line with the same weapons, the same defense and play the same teams.

Anyone would appreciate that the offensive line of the Cowboys has been on another planet to that of the Arizona Cardinals hence why the latter will be drafting at least one OL in their first two rounds of the 2020 draft.

So bearing that in mind, given the division the Cardinals competed in last season, the offensive line he had to play behind and with 36 yr old Larry Fitzgerald as his main weapon, Kyler Murray was excellent and looks a fantastic prospect.

 

[CATCH17]

Exactly.
People completely miss the point with Jones.
Why not have a shut down corner like Jones with the guy the other side with better ball handling skills that receives the most targets making the interceptions...

They're saying on the radio this morning that Next Gen Stats say that Byron Jones is the #1 corner in football since 2018 when it comes to tight window throws.

So at the very least we can agree that Byron Jones can cover well.

 

[CATCH17]

The dumb people are those that treat every single quarterback as though they play behind the same offensive line with the same weapons, the same defense and play the same teams.

Anyone would appreciate that the offensive line of the Cowboys has been on another planet to that of the Arizona Cardinals hence why the latter will be drafting at least one in their first two rounds of the 2020 draft.

So bearing that in mind, given the division the Cardinals competed in last season, the offensive line he had to play behind and with 36 yr old Larry Fitzgerald as his main weapon, Kyler Murray was excellent and looks a fantastic prospect.

Oh that is a common thing with the Dak is the goat guys.. They love to ignore that he has played in one of the most optimal environments for a QB to play in or say dumb things like they think the players around him are overrated lol.

 

[Swagger]

Oh that is a common thing with the Dak is the goat guys.. They love to ignore that he has played in one of the most optimal environments for a QB to play in or say dumb things like they think the players around him are overrated lol.

I'm relieved to know that at least someone else on this forum has recognised such an obvious and basic point.

 

[Swagger]

They're saying on the radio this morning that Next Gen Stats say that Byron Jones is the #1 corner in football since 2018 when it comes to tight window throws.

So at the very least we can agree that Byron Jones can cover well.

I'm a massive fan of Byron Jones and when he likely departs, people will realise how good he was unless we draft to classy cornerback in the forthcoming draft.

It's such a difficult skill to be a shut down corner than one that is able to intercept a few balls. I prefer having a corner that locks down a receiver than one that makes a couple of interceptions in games that have already been won and continually blows big plays when it really matters.

Point is, the guys around Jones could be the ball hawks whilst he locks it down!

I think we would see a increase in Jones intercepting passes with a better defensive scheme. It's like some people are prepared to allow Prescott the benefit of doubt with the potential of improving under new coaching but not Jones.

 

[kskboys]

He is elite. He was responsible for leading his team to a 14-2 season. He's just not a proven franchise quarterback. And, personally, I don't think he's going to hold up more than three years, not at the pace he's running.

Couldn't disagree more!!!!! First of all, one season does not make any player elite. Tons of one year wonders. Cam was never elite.

Secondly, Lamar was exposed. He can't throw outside. There is no way a QB who can't make outside throws can be considered elite.