Twitter: Dallas Still Has $28.56M in Cap space

[ABQCOWBOY]

Its here we go again because of your delivery.

How are the Cowboys in cap hell?

You don't gain "depth" by signing guys anyway. You don't sign guys for "Depth". You draft them. You find them as rookie free agents. You want to see how teams find depth?

These are all undrafted rookie free agents......which team has the most guys on this list? This is from 2018 btw......guess how many of those guys are still on that team during their championship run?

Every...single one of them. So don't give me the excuse about needing cap space to find depth because you don't. Quit giving this front office excuses for why they F up......"cap hell" is a EXCUSE.

And we've done such a great job of that right? We drafted Byron and we got nothing for him. We signed Quinn because of the great job we've done drafting DLs. Oh yeah, all this talk is great in theory but we haven't done it. We signed two FAs at DT this season because we've done such a great job of drafting. Don't BS me. This argument, you are putting forward doesn't hold water.

We are going have depth issues and you are going to run silent on that when it happens. When you are confronted, you are going to put forth some BS argument about how it was the right move or some such. The one thing you won't do is admit that this was wrong. Seen it too many times.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes, but some don't understand that. They think that Dallas just couldn't afford to pay everyone, which is easy to see was not and has not been true. Cap manipulation is an art form that the Joneses finally learned to master while a lot of fans still are having PTSD from when they didn't know what they were doing and we really were in cap hell.

A lot of these fans don't understand much of football. Definitely the most complicated of the major sports.

Joneses are definitely dialing it up now on the salary cap. Takes them waaay too long, but we are finally here. They finally got the coaching thing right and giving him the powers he needs.

We actually have a REAL football man running the team on the field now.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Your reality. As I said, I've seen this before. Same exact type thing. But instead, we have neither and it's because we could afford it, we just decided not to sign one of the best Defensive DBs in the league, even though we could. We just decided to not sign Quinn, who posted 11.5 sacks in 14 games because we could, we just decide not to, even though we have nobody on the roster who can fill the void. Yeah, OK. I am not buying that no matter how hard somebody is trying to sell it. Truth is, if we had offered a nice contract to Quinn during the season last year, he probably signs it and he's locked up. But because we had all of these issues with contracts upcoming, we didn't do that, even thought that's how the Cowboys operate, oft times.

No, you can't convince me of what you are saying. It's just not the case.

These decisions go beyond JUST this year. They know coming up what their salary cap will look like and who is coming up that will need to get paid. Guys like LVE and Gallup.

They got two good DT's instead of one, one dimensional pass rushing specialist.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And we've done such a great job of that right? We drafted Byron and we got nothing for him. We signed Quinn because of the great job we've done drafting DLs. Oh yeah, all this talk is great in theory but we haven't done it. We signed two FAs at DT this season because we've done such a great job of drafting. Don't BS me. This argument, you are putting forward doesn't hold water.

We are going have depth issues and you are going to run silent on that when it happens. When you are confronted, you are going to put forth some BS argument about how it was the right move or some such. The one thing you won't do is admit that this was wrong. Seen it too many times.

We are going to have depth issues but it isn't because our salary cap. You have to hit on draft picks. You do. You can't have goof ups like Taco Charlton.

And you can sit here and call my argument "BS" but you never have anything to discredit my theory. I gave you a example of what the Chiefs do for depth and you ignore you. That's your MO. You disagree with a poster and then have no reason for doing it you just do it.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. But I'm not gonna coddle you and admit I'm wrong. We are all adults here. We should all be able to handle disagreeing with each other.

 

[gimmesix]

A lot of these fans don't understand much of football. Definitely the most complicated of the major sports.

Joneses are definitely dialing it up now on the salary cap. Takes them waaay too long, but we are finally here. They finally got the coaching thing right and giving him the powers he needs.

We actually have a REAL football man running the team on the field now.

I think they take advantage to some extent, when it suits them, of fans' overall lack of understanding of the cap. Sometimes when they let a player go or spend thriftily, they sort of blame the cap instead of telling the complete truth: They didn't think the player was worth what he received.

Now, they do have to manage the cap and can't just go crazy, but if they really wanted to retain Byron Jones, for example, they could have. They just didn't value him at that price and likely feel OK at the position without him.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We are going to have depth issues but it isn't because our salary cap. You have to hit on draft picks. You do. You can't have goof ups like Taco Charlton.

And you can sit here and call my argument "BS" but you never have anything to discredit my theory. I gave you a example of what the Chiefs do for depth and you ignore you. That's your MO. You disagree with a poster and then have no reason for doing it you just do it.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. But I'm not gonna coddle you and admit I'm wrong. We are all adults here. We should all be able to handle disagreeing with each other.

We hit on a DB named Bryon Smith. We did that, but he's gone. You are not admitting it now rocy. How are you gonna say you have no problem with it when you can't even do it right now?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We hit on a DB named Bryon Smith. We did that, but he's gone. You are not admitting it now rocy. How are you gonna say you have no problem with it when you can't even do it right now?

Admitting what? You want me to admit I'm wrong? On what? I'll be honest I don't even know who the hell Byron Smith is.

 

[gimmesix]

These decisions go beyond JUST this year. They know coming up what their salary cap will look like and who is coming up that will need to get paid. Guys like LVE and Gallup.

They got two good DT's instead of one, one dimensional pass rushing specialist.

It's actually interesting to me to look at the structure of contracts. You can see the pattern the Joneses have established for manipulating money each year. No system is perfect because you have unexpected things like Frederick retiring, but when you've set things up to where you can essentially endlessly borrow from other contracts if needed, it makes it easier to absorb the unexpected hits while still having the cash flow to add players as needed.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Admitting what? You want me to admit I'm wrong? On what? I'll be honest I don't even know who the hell Byron Smith is.

See.

BTW, you have my apologies, Byron Jones, not Smith but come on, you don't know who Bryon is? The guy we drafted and didn't resign? Come on.....

Now you are trying to tell me that you will admit if you are wrong? You can't even admit that you knew the whole time who I was talking about with Bryon.

Pull my left leg, it plays Jingle Bells.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

See.

BTW, you have my apologies, Byron Jones, not Smith but come on, you don't know who Bryon is? The guy we drafted and didn't resign? Come on.....

Now you are trying to tell me that you will admit if you are wrong? You can't even admit that you knew the whole time who I was talking about with Bryon.

Pull my left leg, it plays Jingle Bells.

Please. How in the hell am I suppose to know you are talking about Byron? What does Byron have to do with the discussion? We are talking about depth....I honestly thought you were mentioning some undrafted rookie or something they signed. You are all over the place.

What is your point about Byron? That we should've re-signed him?

You have to get off of your high horse. You have never ONCE admitted you are wrong even though multiple people disagree with you. I bring you facts and stats and you still won't admit that you are wrong or even admit that you didn't think of that angle. So save the whole "you can't admit when you're wrong" spill you are on.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Where’s the dude how was telling me the cowboys wouldn’t have money to sign a couple more starters. And now they’ve signed one and still have 28 mil in space?

Is that with or without the $40 million for Dak?

 

[vnick]

The Cowboys have the space to make the moves they need or want to make. When it comes to Jones, they just didn't feel he was worth the money that he was expecting to receive.

 

[HungryLion]

And we've done such a great job of that right? We drafted Byron and we got nothing for him. We signed Quinn because of the great job we've done drafting DLs. Oh yeah, all this talk is great in theory but we haven't done it. We signed two FAs at DT this season because we've done such a great job of drafting. Don't BS me. This argument, you are putting forward doesn't hold water.

We are going have depth issues and you are going to run silent on that when it happens. When you are confronted, you are going to put forth some BS argument about how it was the right move or some such. The one thing you won't do is admit that this was wrong. Seen it too many times.

We very likely will get a 3rd round pick for Byron. I have to believe the comp pick factor played a part in the cowboys decision.

 

[Texas_Pete]

Exactly. If we wanted to, we could enter the Clowney sweepstakes. And we certainly could bring in a Griffen or a Golden on a short term deal.

I'd rather Griffen over Clowney. Clowney flashes but I think Griffen is more consistent.

 

[ThatJerryKid]

What will they do with it and still have enough to pay their draft class?

So why didn’t we sign Byron again?

 

[Texas_Pete]

So why didn’t we sign Byron again?

For about what Byron signed for ($16.5M/per), they were able to sign McCoy ($6.1M), Poe ($5.25M) and Haha ($4M).

Byron was good, but that was all pro money. He's not that. We'll get more collectively outta McCoy, Poe and Haha. Plus they can still get Henderson (for example) in the draft to be CB1 with cap space to fill other holes in the defense IMO.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I think Rookies normally take up $10M-$15M cap space.
The last CBA agreement and present did away with crazy $$ rookie guarantees

Yer on crack. Rookie cap normally adds about 3-4 m because outside of the top Rd or 2 they aren't making any more than guys at the bottom of the roster.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Cap for Rookies is 7.2 Million.

But the net effect is around 3-4 m because bringing them in knocks 6-7 salaries off the bottom of the roster

 

[jaythecowboy]

Yer on crack. Rookie cap normally adds about 3-4 m because outside of the top Rd or 2 they aren't making any more than guys at the bottom of the roster.

It could get up to $13 million if you have a top five pick. The Cowboys are picking in the middle of the round though so it would be around $7 million.

 

[starfrombirth]

Oh man, Dak is really crippling the salary cap.

Big Kudos to the Cowboys for finally learning how to best manage the salary cap.

Tell me again how we are going to pay Dak 30+ million a yr when we only have about 22 mill realistically (according to an earlier poster) or even the 28 mill mentioned in this piece. The math doesn't add up to me.