I believe there are 2 realistic targets at 17

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Based on the Cowboy recent draft history, I believe there are two realistic targets at pick #17:

-CJ Henderson CB Florida
-K. Chaisson DE LSU

They both meet that elite, athletic profile that the Cowboys covet. Are the top 2 positions of need. The likes of Kinlaw, Brown, Lamb, Juedy are unlikely to fall, but would be in the conversion if something unexpected happened.
 

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Henderson is rising with Detroit, Jags and Atlanta all needed corners. Henderson is second behind Okudah and I don't see Henderson making it to 17 now. I really believe Chaisson will be the pick and than corner/safety will come in rounds 2 and 3. I don't expect DL until the 4th round or later and possibly receiver
 

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Agree with the OP. RIght now it's hard to predict but I actually think one of two things will happen:
1. We will stand and take one of Chaisson, Kinlaw or Henderson
2. A team will offer to come up and get either a WR, QB or OT depending on whose there out of Love, Thomas or Ruggs
 

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Henderson is rising with Detroit, Jags and Atlanta all needed corners. Henderson is second behind Okudah and I don't see Henderson making it to 17 now. I really believe Chaisson will be the pick and than corner/safety will come in rounds 2 and 3. I don't expect DL until the 4th round or later and possibly receiver

That's the way I see things playing out, but then every time I think I have the draft figured out, it comes, and I don't.
 

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I don't think Henderson is any more realistic than about a dozen guys.

There's very little purpose to drafting a CB in the first round. They decided that they're OK downgrading the position when they let Byron go, no sense in investing a first-round pick on a player who is A) as likely to bust as any player in the draft and B) doesn't change the fact that the position group isn't better.
 

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I don't think Henderson is any more realistic than about a dozen guys.

There's very little purpose to drafting a CB in the first round. They decided that they're OK downgrading the position when they let Byron go, no sense in investing a first-round pick on a player who is A) as likely to bust as any player in the draft and B) doesn't change the fact that the position group isn't better.

We know they interviewed Henderson, Fulton & Diggs at the combine. All 3 are expected first rd picks. Team has always valued high level picks at the position. I don't think they are downgrading the position with the release of Bryon, but more about him not worth his price. Add in that they have 2 of their top 3 CB's scheduled in become fa's in 2021, the position is a priority need.
 

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We know they interviewed Henderson, Fulton & Diggs at the combine. All 3 are expected first rd picks. Team has always valued high level picks at the position. I don't think they are downgrading the position with the release of Bryon, but more about him not worth his price. Add in that they have 2 of their top 3 CB's scheduled in become fa's in 2021, the position is a priority need.
Im wary of Henderson . Just tired of weak *** tacklers. Rather have Chiasson and a cb in rd 2 or 3. Id take McKinney at 17 before Henderson
 

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We know they interviewed Henderson, Fulton & Diggs at the combine. All 3 are expected first rd picks. Team has always valued high level picks at the position. I don't think they are downgrading the position with the release of Bryon, but more about him not worth his price. Add in that they have 2 of their top 3 CB's scheduled in become fa's in 2021, the position is a priority need.
When you lose a top-5 corner because you've decided not to pay - not because you can't - you're making a decision to get worse at the position. No draft pick, outside of maybe Okudah, will come in and keep the position group as good as it was. Drafting a CB in round 1 in 2020 to potentially replace Chido on a team this positioned to win right now seems pointless.

Just roll with what you have, and add a late-round guy to fill out the depth. Investing a first-round pick for, at best, a lateral move from where you were last year, seems pointless.
 

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Agree with the OP. RIght now it's hard to predict but I actually think one of two things will happen:
1. We will stand and take one of Chaisson, Kinlaw or Henderson
2. A team will offer to come up and get either a WR, QB or OT depending on whose there out of Love, Thomas or Ruggs

I agree. If they are wiped out, there will be a player who is attractive in a trade up scenario. Kinlaw, could be a trade up target as well.
 

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When you lose a top-5 corner because you've decided not to pay - not because you can't - you're making a decision to get worse at the position. No draft pick, outside of maybe Okudah, will come in and keep the position group as good as it was. Drafting a CB in round 1 in 2020 to potentially replace Chido on a team this positioned to win right now seems pointless.

Just roll with what you have, and add a late-round guy to fill out the depth. Investing a first-round pick for, at best, a lateral move from where you were last year, seems pointless.

I disagree. We heard McClay state Bryon was a solid starter, I believe they didn't view him as a top 5 CB or he would of been resigned.
 

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Im wary of Henderson . Just tired of weak *** tacklers. Rather have Chiasson and a cb in rd 2 or 3. Id take McKinney at 17 before Henderson

I like McKinney, just doesn't fit their type of player. The Cowboys always target the best athletes, not football players. We may not like it, but that's the type of players they covet.
 

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I don't think it would be a bad idea to trade up in the 2nd round to get a top tier safety or corner. Hypothetically if we offered 51 and are 2nd or 3rd round pick from next year, how far can we move up? Because of comp picks, we are projected to have 3 3rd round picks next year anyway.

So if Chaisson is the pick, I would love for the 2nd rounder to be one of these guys...
Noah Igbinoghene
Jaylon Johnson
Jeff Gladney
Trevon Diggs
A.J. Terrell
Antoine Winfield Jr
Xavier McKinney
Grant Delpit
 

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That's the way I see things playing out, but then every time I think I have the draft figured out, it comes, and I don't.
I'm in the same boat as you. I think the last time I got a pick right was when we drafted Ryan Switzer and Bo Scarborough
 

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Top 3 WRs
Kinlaw
Henderson
Chaisson

That's the mini draft board at 17

Henderson and or Chaisson might go earlier than people expect bc there is a significant drop off at each position after them..and both positions are premium positions..kinlaw may drop bc of medicals..and if all of these guys get drafted then a WR may drop..

add in a shock pick or two that nobody sees coming and maybe multiple players from this group are available..but if you ask me, this is my mini board

Lamb
Jeudy
Kinlaw
Ruggs
Henderson
Chaisson

This is having no information on kinalws knees..positive or negative grades there will obviously make an impact
 

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Letting go of Byron doesn't mean that you don't value CB, it just means you don't want to pay him. Byron got 5 years 82 million. If we drafted Henderson, he'd get something like 4 years 12 million plus the fifth year option. Lots of cap savings there.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure Henderson makes it to 17 either, and there's a real chance that he goes top 10. Defenses start 3 corners these days so pretty much every team could use one, and Hendo is the clear-cut #2 CB in this class. Three viable Day 1 starting QBs, three stud WRs, and four stud OTs will keep teams distracted, but as soon as Okudah comes off the board, we are officially on Hendo notice.

Based on how it sits now, I'd say the Cowboys' 1st round short list right now is probably

-Henderson
-Chaisson
-Kinlaw
-WR

I can't remember the last time we've traded down in the Will McClay era. We usually stay put and take what the draft gives us, and there's always been good players there when we've done it in the past. I think the only way we trade out is if our board is totally wiped out, or if we get a trade-down offer we can't refuse.
 
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Letting go of Byron doesn't mean that you don't value CB, it just means you don't want to pay him. Byron got 5 years 82 million. If we drafted Henderson, he'd get something like 4 years 12 million plus the fifth year option. Lots of cap savings there.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure Henderson makes it to 17 either, and there's a real chance that he goes top 10. Defenses start 3 corners these days so pretty much every team could use one, and Hendo is the clear-cut #2 CB in this class. Three viable Day 1 starting QBs, three stud WRs, and four stud OTs will keep teams distracted, but as soon as Okudah comes off the board, we are officially on Hendo notice.

Based on how it sits now, I'd say the Cowboys' 1st round short list right now is probably

-Henderson
-Chaisson
-Kinlaw
-WR

I can't remember the last time we've traded down in the Will McClay era. We usually stay put and take what the draft gives us, and there's always been good players there when we've done it in the past. I think the only way we trade out is if our board is totally wiped out or if we get a trade-down offer we can't refuse.

This is called plagiarism

;)
 

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This is called plagiarism

;)

Yeah, I think we've all got the Cowboys' tendencies pinned down. When you start combing through the freak athletes who will likely be there in the mid first round, you land on the same few dudes.
 
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Letting go of Byron doesn't mean that you don't value CB, it just means you don't want to pay him. Byron got 5 years 82 million. If we drafted Henderson, he'd get something like 4 years 12 million plus the fifth year option. Lots of cap savings there.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I'm not sure Henderson makes it to 17 either, and there's a real chance that he goes top 10. Defenses start 3 corners these days so pretty much every team could use one, and Hendo is the clear-cut #2 CB in this class. Three viable Day 1 starting QBs, three stud WRs, and four stud OTs will keep teams distracted, but as soon as Okudah comes off the board, we are officially on Hendo notice.

Based on how it sits now, I'd say the Cowboys' 1st round short list right now is probably

-Henderson
-Chaisson
-Kinlaw
-WR

I can't remember the last time we've traded down in the Will McClay era. We usually stay put and take what the draft gives us, and there's always been good players there when we've done it in the past. I think the only way we trade out is if our board is totally wiped out, or if we get a trade-down offer we can't refuse.

I agree. If they get wiped out, you would think if they had to make a pick, would be for a DB, S or CB.
 
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