A Brand Spankin' New Kellen

Dre11

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I love the fact that you are tying to act like I liked Garrett and you didn't. LOL

You really are one pathetic poster. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao::lmao:

As if anyone is going to believe you. :muttley::muttley:


This isn't Garretts Cowboys anymore. MM is now in charge. There are no more puppets anymore.


You can't stop talking about Garrett, maybe a few Addiction meetings can help...lol
 

Dre11

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I love the fact that you are tying to act like I liked Garrett and you didn't. LOL

You really are one pathetic poster. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao::lmao:

As if anyone is going to believe you. :muttley::muttley:


This isn't Garretts Cowboys anymore. MM is now in charge. There are no more puppets anymore.


you're the only pathetic poster talking about Garrett, let that sink in....lol
 

CowboyRoy

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You can't stop talking about Garrett, maybe a few Addiction meetings can help...lol

All anyone has to do to shut you up is mention your love for Garrett. You have to live with that now. Garrett is your legacy that you may never live down. At least I will never let you forget about it. Until maybe you start making sense on here. But from your latest laughable argument, its clear you aren't.
 

Dre11

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All anyone has to do to shut you up is mention your love for Garrett. You have to live with that now. Garrett is your legacy that you may never live down. At least I will never let you forget about it. Until maybe you start making sense on here. But from your latest laughable argument, its clear you aren't.

again, you can't let Garrett go, did he screw your mother or something. nobody's talking about Garrett but you...lol
 

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IMO, that's what we're going to see this season. I think the kid was strapped by JG, and still showed some promise, albeit w/ way too much Garrett still shining through.

I think a lot of the problems were Garrett too, but McCarthy should be able to develop Moore as a play caller.

Moore looked good with play design. The failing last year seemed more game plan and game management. Something you'd expect might take more experience. So out with Garrett, in with McCarthy to provide that experience.
 

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I still think its an odd situation because all we heard from McCarthy on lessons he learned from being fired was that he would call his plays at his next stop. That went out the window when Jerry told McCarthy to meet his new favorite son Kellen Moore. And how long of leash does Moore have? If offense isn't clicking by week 6 does McCarthy put his foot down. This team has so many variables this can go any which way. I say just sit back and enjoy the show as we watch aging wealthy man trapped in his head try to navigate a fast changing environment.

yeh, i think it's a odd setting too. In that you have McCarthy West coast offensive system ..and Kellen's time-based offense. One system is based off throwing to a spot before a receiver comes in/ out of his breaks.
while another system emphasizes throwing to a receiver once he does come out of a in/out cut in his breaks , the variations of short pass game vs vertical push ball pass game.

they say its' all same " terminology" but that sounds like a good wording but i'd like that to be best explained in details for me.
There were pluses and minuses to Kellen's game but it still points promising and optimistic for a guy so young and inexperience, but imagine what he could eventually be under a much better innovative HC.

Though aside from the RPO formations, i liked how Kellen mimicked the Sean McVey style Rams offense with varying his formations and giving offenses
different pre-snap looks and motion. and there was a difference in pass routes designs and a better emphasis in pushing the ball downfield in the pass game.
There was a marked, better difference in dak's throwing mechanics, quicker in-out huddle time, quicker progression reads and decision making and quicker in getting the ball out of his throwing hand.

And that also includes the RPO's that Kellen implemented into the offense on a regular basis.
 

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I still think its an odd situation because all we heard from McCarthy on lessons he learned from being fired was that he would call his plays at his next stop. That went out the window when Jerry told McCarthy to meet his new favorite son Kellen Moore. And how long of leash does Moore have? If offense isn't clicking by week 6 does McCarthy put his foot down. This team has so many variables this can go any which way. I say just sit back and enjoy the show as we watch aging wealthy man trapped in his head try to navigate a fast changing environment.

Garrett was so simplistic, limited, and ole school. He didn't know today's era of trend, advancement or expansion, he only knew 90's offense, didn't have a clue of game management and how to make in-game adjustments and depended solely on his OC's (ala Linehan, Moore) he was more to confuse, slow and hinder Moore than help him.
i would like to think McCarthy wanted to continue what successful ground works and foundations Kellen and Nussemeier helped lay in place with Dak's progress and development. How much of the offense will continue to be Kellen? and how much will McCarthys' system and way of operating come into pla? How much of the designs will be Kellen's and how much will be McCarthy's designs ?

i will say this- i'd much rather McCarthy and RB coach Skip Peete handle and design the run game and the RBs, as Kellen Moore i thought we were very simplistic and predictable.
It seemed always either up the middle or draw play out of the RPO plays. Zeke's "angry" runs improved as season went on, but there was still the absence of splash plays and big speed runs by zeke. That is what teams feared most from zeke. And looking back at the way MM can feature and utilize his backs in pass game, i'd much rather trust that than what was seen from Kellen in that sense.
 

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It's also fairly well known that McCarthy was intending on working with Moore.
It was basically a precondition of employment. Jerry made it very clear his intentions to retain Moore. That’s doesn’t mean MM didn’t like Moore.

“ Despite Dallas’ disappointing season, the team is intent on keeping Moore. Jerry Jones made it a point during the Cowboys’ HC interviews to express his desire for Jason Garrett‘s eventual successor to retain Moore

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/kellen-moore-expected-to-stay-with-cowboys
 
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I’ll say this.....Moore makes Garrett look like a chump.

Moore is everything Garrett never was.
….time will tell. Every time the offense went stale....it was Zeke or JG's fault. We shall see what makes him so anointed.
 

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….time will tell. Every time the offense went stale....it was Zeke or JG's fault. We shall see what makes him so anointed.

Hes not anointed, just better than Garrett. In the kids first year as a young coordinator we saw some really good things. And that was with Garrett limiting his freedoms.

Now he has a REAL offensive coach in MM.
 

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….time will tell. Every time the offense went stale....it was Zeke or JG's fault. We shall see what makes him so anointed.

Every time the offense went stale it was either New England in the rain, or it seemed to be a conservative game plan that would run Zeke up the middle time after time. Who's gameplan does that remind you of?
 

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A HC that will help with situational game calling during the actual game will help.....
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It was for the one that just left.
 

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It was basically a precondition of employment. Jerry made it very clear his intentions to retain Moore. That’s doesn’t mean MM didn’t like Moore.

“ Despite Dallas’ disappointing season, the team is intent on keeping Moore. Jerry Jones made it a point during the Cowboys’ HC interviews to express his desire for Jason Garrett‘s eventual successor to retain Moore

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/kellen-moore-expected-to-stay-with-cowboys

I tried to tell these guys, Jerry pushed for this.
 

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HC still dictates what he wants and with Jason he wanted ball control offense and Moore tired to run that style of offense. The style of offense that Moore ran at Boise St was not a ball control offense and I think with McCarthy west coast back ground you will see a different style of play calling. I don't think we will see as much run on 1st down as we have for a while now.
 

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When your boss is watching and listening to your calls over your shoulder, it's difficult to do something that flies in the face of his tendencies. With Mike McCarthy being one who supports Kellen's philosophy as one he likes, it's fair to say that he'll be likely to call whatever he feels is workable this year.
And if that doesn't work, MM will take over the play calling. :laugh:
 
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