Florio: Dak to skip Cowboys' virtual offseason

[Typhus]

Some use humor to disguise the unconscious at work within. Freud would have loved to listen to more of your "humor" bubbling up in sessions. LOL.

Just to be able sit down with that man for a moment...

 

[CATCH17]

Dude, you could literally list every position in the "overpaying for X" statement. But if there's ANY position you overpay, it's the QB and it's not even close because those are so hard to find, which is why they tend to go at the top of drafts. Whether you think Dak is worth it is another story that can be debated but "overpaying for a QB" I think is hardly a defense against. What you mean is you don't want to overpay THIS QB. That's fair if it's your opinion.

If I look at Super Bowl winning teams I would say that QB is the 1 position you don’t overpay.

If you’re a coach and you want to keep a job a long time then overpay a decent QB, you’ll get decent results, and you’ll never be that bad..

In terms of winning a Championship.. Even the top tier QBs getting paid a lot aren’t winning championships much less a mediocre guy like Dak.

 

[Jimbo123]

So his tag does not obligate him to participate?? Correct?

With no contract, technically he is not employed by the Cowboys. So no, he is not obligated..

 

[Doomsday]

Why do you think they can't trade him?

They can't until he signs his franchise tag.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I would take Dak all day on the deal he had or if he was actually paid like the 10th best QB..


You give him the money he wants with all the holes this team currently has and I doubt we see a Lombardi in the next 4 years..

If you draft Tua.. Next year won’t be so great if he has to sit but then we have a decade of potential top tier QB play. This is an opportunity but Dallas will be conservative and get conservative results.

Thats where I am and have been with Dak. He has been good but he is not top paid qb in league good. And should not be paid as such.

4 yrs 100 mill. Id take him on that all day. 4 years 120, 30 40.....no way

I really hope we kick off the MM era with a Dak trade on draft day and we spin the wheel on another QB.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting diff results.

Hold on Miami is calling. I gotta run.......

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They are trying to have it both ways

Dak sucks but somehow he had trade value!!??

Right. They got lost in this thing called "Dak hate" lol.

 

[VACowboy]

I actually think Miami would be a great place for him. I love what they are doing and they have a head coach who wins games he's not suppose to. I honestly think it would be smart for the Dolphins. Just to trade 1 first rounder for him.

Yeah, you may be right about Miami. They have Parker and multiple first-rounders. I just think it'd be interesting to see how he'd do without the offense around him that he has in Dallas. I don't think the Cowboys could've foreseen Dak being this kind of hard case in negotiations, at least until he swapped agents and everything became obvious. He's played well in Dallas and been offered the richest contract in league history in return, and it pisses me off that unless the team also lets him out of that contract so he can hold out again in four years instead of five, he's not signing.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh definitely not. PT Barnum is still going to make money. I was referring to his teammates who rely on his play to be competitive and win games. If Dak and Dallas Brass continue on with the chest bumping contest, the team will suffer as far as competition goes.

It might force an ineffective draft choice that sets them back another 4 years or so. It might cause a JAG, like Rush, to start and fall flat on his face..which in turn directly effects the team obviously. Hell, him doing this "hold out" business might set himself back, as far as fine details and nuances of a new offense implemented by the new coaching staff.

A ton of moving parts to the entire thing.

Understood but those same exact teammates all sat out. Lawrence and Zeke both sat out last year.

 

[VACowboy]

Dak is better than all these rookies until they prove otherwise.

Whhat does that have to do with being able to trade him?

 

[jazzcat22]

Except that you are out a 1st round pick and statistically either drafted a player who will never play or who is a far worse QB.

And if Dak does not sign his tag and sits out, are you comfortable with Rush or Thorson? Sign a vet QB, and who would that be? Or you are stuck trading for another teams backup at a high price.

 

[Jeffkills]

The guy is a total punk now...

We’re not winning the SB; make an example of him...

 

[BigTimeBlues]

Understood but those same exact teammates all sat out. Lawrence and Zeke both sat out last year.

Vicious cycle, isn't it? I was just as sick with those two as I am starting to feel towards Dak. All ownership issues cast aside, I think it's just flat out wrong to be so selfish in a team sport.

Unfortunately, that's all the game seems to be about now. Money money mooooooooooney.

 

[VACowboy]

They can't until he signs his franchise tag.

Well, yeah, but they can still talk and if they find a team who wants to deal and will give Prescott the contract he wants I'm betting he'll sign the tender.

 

[Adreme]

And if Dak does not sign his tag and sits out, are you comfortable with Rush or Thorson? Sign a vet QB, and who would that be? Or you are stuck trading for another teams backup at a high price.

Dak is going to sign the tag. He just is not going to sign it until the regular season is closer. Obviously a deal needs to get done to prevent that from happening, but drafting a QB very rarely leads to you to getting one even as good as Dak (1st round QBs have a 2/3 chance of failure and the failure line is a lower bar than being Dak). There is zero motivation for Dak to not sign the tag eventually; he just will not do it early on to increase the pressure to get a deal done. The best solution is just to get the deal done and pay him his money and everyone can move forward.

 

[OmerV]

Top 12 QB who wants to be the highest-paid player in the NFL and wants a short deal so he can hold out again in a few more years.

He isn't worth what he thinks he is.

I think (we don't really know) that Dak isn't necessarily looking for an unusually short deal as much as it is the Cowboys are looking for an unusually long deal. At least that;s the way it has come across to me.

 

[TheCoolFan]

No problem, he can just keep working out with Dez!

 

[Qcard]

If I look at Super Bowl winning teams I would say that QB is the 1 position you don’t overpay.

If you’re a coach and you want to keep a job a long time then overpay a decent QB, you’ll get decent results, and you’ll never be that bad..

In terms of winning a Championship.. Even the top tier QBs getting paid a lot aren’t winning championships much less a mediocre guy like Dak.

@CATCH17 your philosophy about QBs pay has been proven wrong. I highly suggest you read below article in link....the chances are 50/50 regards of QB pay.

Don't camouflage your opinion. Just say you don't think Dak is worth a Market Value top QB Contract. All that other stuff is fluff

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/numbers/can-nfl-teams-contend-high-priced-qb

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah, you may be right about Miami. They have Parker and multiple first-rounders. I just think it'd be interesting to see how he'd do without the offense around him that he has in Dallas. I don't think the Cowboys could've foreseen Dak being this kind of hard case in negotiations, at least until he swapped agents and everything became obvious. He's played well in Dallas and been offered the richest contract in league history in return, and it pisses me off that unless the team also lets him out of that contract so he can hold out again in four years instead of five, he's not signing.

I'm more frustrated what's holding this deal off is a year. A deal worth 4 years is the best for this team and Dak. Yet, the Jones's don't want to give it.

 

[MarcusRock]

If I look at Super Bowl winning teams I would say that QB is the 1 position you don’t overpay.

If you’re a coach and you want to keep a job a long time then overpay a decent QB, you’ll get decent results, and you’ll never be that bad..

In terms of winning a Championship.. Even the top tier QBs getting paid a lot aren’t winning championships much less a mediocre guy like Dak.

There are so many more factors at stake to win a championship but you're NOT winning one with a piss poor QB. The QB has more influence over anything another player on your team has. And starting-caliber ones are paid accordingly.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Vicious cycle, isn't it? I was just as sick with those two as I am starting to feel towards Dak. All ownership issues cast aside, I think it's just flat out wrong to be so selfish in a team sport.

Unfortunately, that's all the game seems to be about now. Money money mooooooooooney.

Its just coming full circle. All those years of owners making hundreds of millions and paying nothing for their players.