News: Landon Collins: I'd rather hit Barkely than hit Zeke

[CATCH17]

Barkley is the better back.

He’s way to feast or famine and he doesn’t stay healthy..

He could be the better back but he’s not shown it..

If Zeke could ever recapture his big play ability then there would be no debate.

 

[CATCH17]

LOL, better at what?

Exercising. lol

 

[BigD_95]

I'd rather have Barkley than market setting salary Zeke. Be quite a duo - Barkley and Pollard.

Barkley would make a nice change of pace RB to Zeke - kind of like Pollard to Zeke now

 

[aria]

Drop the mic.

Pick it back up.

2018
Barkley- 0 fumbles
Zeke- 6

Zeke is so tough to take down, right?

Yards after contact
Barkley- 931
Zeke- 718

All purpose yards
Barkley- 2,028 on 352 touches
Zeke- 2,001 on 381 touches

I could go on and on about how many more runs Barkley has over 10 yards, 20 yards and 40 yards but that would be embarrassing to Zeke.

40+ yard runs in career as of most of 2018
Barkley- 8 on 331 touches
Zeke- 6 on 978 touches

I could talk about how Barkley was 1 of 3 rookies to eclipse over 2,000 yards his rookie season or how Barkley broke the rookie all time reception record. Let me guess though, that doesn’t count, it’s not Zeke’s fault they didn’t throw him the ball more, right? Kind of like Barkley had a higher ypc but didn’t get the all so mighty rushing title behind of the worst lines in the game because he had a lot less carries than Zeke?

I could go on and on about how Barkley had the third worst run blocking line in the league and still accomplished these things and could give more important stats than total rushing yards but amazingly I have better things to do right now. We’ll catch up later, I’ll leave you with this.

Regardless of who anyone thinks is better, Zeke was a total waste of a draft spot and paid way too much money.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ezekiel-elliott-is-not-worth-the-money-he-wants/

 

[CowboyRoy]

He’s way to feast or famine and he doesn’t stay healthy..

He could be the better back but he’s not shown it..

If Zeke could ever recapture his big play ability then there would be no debate.

Barkley is the better, more skilled back. There is no question about that. You want to say Zeke is more durable? Fine, no issue here.

However, Zeke was suspended 6 games in his 2nd year and is dumb enough to get suspended again. So one could argue that its a wash on that front.

Im also not one of these guys that thinks you need to give a back 350 carries a year. Give me Barkely and Pollard all day over Zeke and Pollard. YOu need multiple backs, not one guy that gets all the carries.

 

[Batman1980]

We coulda had DeForest Buckner and Derrick Henry!

 

[OmerV]

$108 million for 8-8, money well spent.

I don't think the pay will be for just one season, do you? Rodgers was 6-9 a couple of years ago. Should the Packers have decided that's all Rodgers was capable of?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Pick it back up.

2018
Barkley- 0 fumbles
Zeke- 6

Zeke is so tough to take down, right?

Yards after contact
Barkley- 931
Zeke- 718

All purpose yards
Barkley- 2,028 on 352 touches
Zeke- 2,001 on 381 touches

I could go on and on about how many more runs Barkley has over 10 yards, 20 yards and 40 yards but that would be embarrassing to Zeke.

40+ yard runs in career as of most of 2018
Barkley- 8 on 331 touches
Zeke- 6 on 978 touches

I could talk about how Barkley was 1 of 3 rookies to eclipse over 2,000 yards his rookie season or how Barkley broke the rookie all time reception record. Let me guess though, that doesn’t count, it’s not Zeke’s fault they didn’t throw him the ball more, right? Kind of like Barkley had a higher ypc but didn’t get the all so mighty rushing title behind of the worst lines in the game because he had a lot less carries than Zeke?

I could go on and on about how Barkley had the third worst run blocking line in the league and still accomplished these things and could give more important stats than total rushing yards but amazingly I have better things to do right now. We’ll catch up later, I’ll leave you with this.

Regardless of who anyone thinks is better, Zeke was a total waste of a draft spot and paid way too much money.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ezekiel-elliott-is-not-worth-the-money-he-wants/

That definitely ends that conversation!!!!!

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Exercising. lol

We hear that every year though. We'll get some obscure photo from an undisclosed location of a blurry fat Zeke in the background from some hard hitting news organization like TMZ. Then the season starts and he runs over people and racks up 1000+ yards with the Cowboys running him until his tongues in the dirt. I'm no Zeke apologist, I think the only thing stupider than Dallas taking Zeke with the #4 overall pick was the New York football Giants taking Barkley with the #2 overall pick. But I can promise you the rest of the players in the NFL would echo Collins on who they'd rather face with a football in their hands.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Pick it back up.

2018
Barkley- 0 fumbles
Zeke- 6

Zeke is so tough to take down, right?

Yards after contact
Barkley- 931
Zeke- 718

All purpose yards
Barkley- 2,028 on 352 touches
Zeke- 2,001 on 381 touches

I could go on and on about how many more runs Barkley has over 10 yards, 20 yards and 40 yards but that would be embarrassing to Zeke.

40+ yard runs in career as of most of 2018
Barkley- 8 on 331 touches
Zeke- 6 on 978 touches

I could talk about how Barkley was 1 of 3 rookies to eclipse over 2,000 yards his rookie season or how Barkley broke the rookie all time reception record. Let me guess though, that doesn’t count, it’s not Zeke’s fault they didn’t throw him the ball more, right? Kind of like Barkley had a higher ypc but didn’t get the all so mighty rushing title behind of the worst lines in the game because he had a lot less carries than Zeke?

I could go on and on about how Barkley had the third worst run blocking line in the league and still accomplished these things and could give more important stats than total rushing yards but amazingly I have better things to do right now. We’ll catch up later, I’ll leave you with this.

Regardless of who anyone thinks is better, Zeke was a total waste of a draft spot and paid way too much money.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ezekiel-elliott-is-not-worth-the-money-he-wants/

You forget three telling Stats when it comes to bell cow rbs, TDs, games missed, and team wins. You will never convince me brittle bark is better. Like someone in the 90s trying to tell me Sanders was better than the all time rushing champ. I always left that debate with where was Emmitt’s nfl line in HS when he set those records, at Florida when he set those records...Zeke is a stud and Brittle Bark had a good rookie year, injury plagued second year and helped his team to what? The only thing BB has over Zeke is elite speed and elusiveness....similar to the HOFers debate. Anyway have a good day @aria i do admire your passion and approach. I just will never be convinced until both have completed their careers, hopefully you can respect that.

 

[Aven8]

When we need a yard Zeke 9 times out of 10 gets the yard. That’s what fans don’t understand about the game.

 

[kskboys]

Barkley is a better player. But Elliott is awesome, too, and a fully believe other players would rather tackle Barkley than Zeke.

He's not. Barkley is more of a HR threat. Zeke is better in every other aspect.

 

[OmerV]

When we need a yard Zeke 9 times out of 10 gets the yard. That’s what fans don’t understand about the game.

This is a fair point. There are different factors and different skills each RB brings to the table, and it's the overall ability that matters. Zeke being harder to bring down with a direct hit is in his favor. Barkley is probably more explosive, but can be brought down more easily on contact, and has more trouble staying healthy. And there are plenty of other factors in evaluating RBs (receiving, avoiding losses, blocking etc …).

 

[CATCH17]

Barkley is the better, more skilled back. There is no question about that. You want to say Zeke is more durable? Fine, no issue here.

However, Zeke was suspended 6 games in his 2nd year and is dumb enough to get suspended again. So one could argue that its a wash on that front.

Im also not one of these guys that thinks you need to give a back 350 carries a year. Give me Barkely and Pollard all day over Zeke and Pollard. YOu need multiple backs, not one guy that gets all the carries.

Barkley has more big play ability but it ends there.. Zeke is better at everything else.

The problem with Barkley is he’s a 230 lb finesse guy that doesn’t stay healthy and when he is healthy he only provides homerun and nothing else.

Great talent but he’s only put the homerun ability on display.

 

[CATCH17]

When we need a yard Zeke 9 times out of 10 gets the yard. That’s what fans don’t understand about the game.

It is a big play league and for all of Zeke getting is that 1 yard it’s not translating to Ws.

His best year was his rookie year when he looked his most explosive.

Dallas is the king of the little play but we get boxed up when we aren’t playing the Giants and Commanders.

That is why I think a Henry Ruggs type of player is desperately needed on this team.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Barkley has more big play ability but it ends there.. Zeke is better at everything else.

The problem with Barkley is he’s a 230 lb finesse guy that doesn’t stay healthy and when he is healthy he only provides homerun and nothing else.

Great talent but he’s only put the homerun ability on display.

LOL......first of all, big play ability is HUGE.

Barkley is faster, has better visions, is a better receiver, makes guys miss, can run guys over and you can build your offense around.

Only think Zeke has on Barkley has been durability. THATS IT!! And when you take into account leadership, human being, teamate, and suspensions, than its crystal clear that you take Barkley.

The only reason Zeke looked explosive in his rookie year was because the Oline was sooooo good that was running through huge holes and was untouched into the 3nd and 3rd level. I have watched specials on this exact analysis.

Barkley can play in a bad offense with a bad line and get his. Zeke cannot.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

10/29 career games under 50 yards rushing for Barkley.

6/56 for Zeke.



119 scrimmage yards per game for Barkley.

125 for Zeke over double the sample size.

Cool stats bro.

Now can you compare the number of 20+ and 40+ runs each have had?

 

[Aven8]

It is a big play league and for all of Zeke getting is that 1 yard it’s not translating to Ws.

His best year was his rookie year when he looked his most explosive.

Dallas is the king of the little play but we get boxed up when we aren’t playing the Giants and Commanders.

That is why I think a Henry Ruggs type of player is desperately needed on this team.

I’m curious to see what Mike does with this offense. In the past the field was spread and Lacy would draw teams to death. I would love to have Ruggs. I’m fine with going with him in the first. Rather that than a corner in the first.

 

[JayFord]

i rather tackle Earl Campbell led through the hole by Mike Alstott at the goal line before i tackle Barkley

I seriously cannot stand trying to tackle someone that shifty.....

atleast with Alstott and Campbell i know where theyre going

 

[CATCH17]

LOL......first of all, big play ability is HUGE.

Barkley is faster, has better visions, is a better receiver, makes guys miss, can run guys over and you can build your offense around.

Only think Zeke has on Barkley has been durability. THATS IT!! And when you take into account leadership, human being, teamate, and suspensions, than its crystal clear that you take Barkley.

If Barkely and Zeke were on the same team, Zeke is riding the bench.

He doesn’t have better vision.. He doesn’t run between the tackles well at all.. He was that way in college and it hasn’t gotten much better in the pros.. He looks to bounce everything wide..

He’s a good receiver.. Zeke has never looked bad in that department but Barkley does look more fluid.

He has more talent then Zeke but he doesn’t play to his size at all.

IMO, and this will probably upset some of you, but if you give Barkley 300 carries and Tony Pollard 300 carries I think their stats would be very similar. Especially with Pollard having a better Oline.