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jnday

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Reaching and winning a Super Bowl takes a team, granted you do need the players to reach such an accomplishment, which is where your argument comes in. At the same time, history has proven you need a very good QB to help you reach a Super Bowl, which we have in Dak, so it makes no sense whatsoever wasting a team of talented players only to get rid of your stud QB and instead hang your coat on some lesser QB or an unproven (and unpromised) drafted rookie QB. I'd rather take my chances with Dak since he's evidently getting better.

Did you look at the "Dak led in drops" thread? All the proof is there the problem with our offense was not Dak. Had our WRs caught half of their league-leading 51 drops, we would have easily won another 3-4 games, won the division and made the playoffs. That's not including Dak would have easily passed for 5,100+ yards, more than 30 TDs, and certainly a 70%+ completion rate (much better than his pretty good 65.3% completion rate). Dak had a 76% completions % rate for our first 7 games, while the last 9 games dropped all the way down to 59.4%...all thanks to our WRs dropping so many passes and killing drives. With such data now exposed, I'll definitely keep Dak which thankfully Jerry, McCarthy and the Cowboys smartly feel the same way too. Time to give Dak due justice and give him credit for improving his game every year, especially last year.
This is where I win this argument. The stats have been on this board several times and I know for a fact that you have seen them. There might be one exception, but no team has won a Super Bowl after signing and overpaying their QB. I forgot which QB that was able to win after getting the big contract, but the stats clearly shows that the Super Bowls was won during the QB’s first contract. You are not dumb , because I have seen you say that Dak should not be overplayed, which is more than I can say for some of these posters that wants Dak signed regardless of how bad it hurts the team. When it comes to the “drops@, Dak has done himself no favors. A lot of drops comes on slant patterns that Dak throws behind, too high or too low for the WR to catch. The WRs have been very lucky to touch the ball in many cases, much less catch it. They are also lucky that one of them have not had a career ending injury due to ball placement exposing the WR to big hits.
 

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In this day of salary caps a business move involving a contract is a football move. There must be consistancy in priorities between the coaching staff and upper management. There isnt, never was.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. :muttley:

The Jones boys handle the business side of the house and McCarthy is the football operations guy. There is no equivocation about these distinctions. You don't have to agree with it but this is how it is.
 

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Yeah..no problem on the date critique.

It was all off the top of my head. No Googling for me. Not a Googling Fact Checker.

Understood on extenuating circumstances, too.

Good defenses, better coaches, etc. Surely all that factors.

That all gets to be a wandering mess of a topic. Fun to discuss, but that dithers my point.

I'm trying to sort of be a road map and connecting dots of common denominators past and present.

Many fans have not been around to have seen us at our best.

The best of times for all Cowboy fans really.

We all want to get back there.

We as they say shall see.

Later. Thanx.
I think you're connecting the wrong dots.

Common denominators of SB winning teams include either an exceptional Offense or Defense. Whichever is better still needs the other side to be better than just average.
 

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Just to be clear..

The Mods did this..not me.

They want Dak posts here and I will comply.

So If its Dak I will post here and I assume others can to.

There are a lot of members wanting to comment on our QB lately. And that is going to continue going forward..

Both positive and negative.

So Dak should be honored. And best of all..its free for Dak. Part of his new compensation package so to speak.

Cool.
Don't sell yourself short. The mods did this because of you.
 

nobody

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I believe your suggestion looks strangely like anti- free speech.

And if I recall, is prohibited in the Constitution.

Ya think?

You are always encouraged to start your own website.

But watch out for lawsuits. That stuff is very real.


Free speech doesn't apply to privately own websites. The rules are what Reality sets them to be since he owns the site. Any lawsuit would get thrown out of court.

That being said, I am not a fan of curbing free speech. I'm a fan of limited the number of threads on the same subject so as not to kick other interesting subjects off the first page of the forum.
 

GenoT

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Enough questions about my disabilities "doctor".

BTW, how did my tests come back about my needing that 4 way bypass work out?

Oh, its inoperable, Really?

Damned..tough break.

Ya know dude, your cute little knee jerk remarks are boring me.

Scram.
Whereas bro, your inane posts are most entertaining — in a junior-high schoolboy sort of way.

Now cram!

:thumbup:
 

Buzzbait

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Is there ever been a player who improved their play after receiving a big contract?

I would guess 90% will either decline in performance or stay the same.

Goff, Wentz, just name me one. Mahomes improved and has his big contract day coming but he has a ring now.

He is not part of the answer.

We're on the same page Redball. One exception though is I think there are a few individuals who love playing the game as much as they love the money.
 

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you are right , once a QB reaches year 3-4 , you pretty much know how good he is . Dak started regressing in 2018 and continued into 2019 , despite have the top OL , RB, WR . Now that Garret is gone , there won't be any more punch bag to blame for the 1-6 against winning teams, the metldowns whenever Dak faces a press defense, or the inaccurate throws. Dak's regression will be hard to reverse .
 

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Today’s pay scale is today’s pay scale. How is it reasonable to want to be paid by tomorrow’s pay scale? It isn’t. I have never seen a job that paid wages on a future scale. It is beyond unreasonable for a player like Dak to be the highest paid player in the league because at some point he assumes that QB pay might reach the level that he is asking for. It is not good business for Jerry to give in to Dak’s demands. To make matters worse, he wants a short term contract . The Cowboys are getting screwed on every level if they give in to Dak.

Excellent point jnday, makes perfect sense. Those who don't understand are more concerned with cents than sense.
 

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Today’s pay scale is today’s pay scale. How is it reasonable to want to be paid by tomorrow’s pay scale? It isn’t. I have never seen a job that paid wages on a future scale. It is beyond unreasonable for a player like Dak to be the highest paid player in the league because at some point he assumes that QB pay might reach the level that he is asking for. It is not good business for Jerry to give in to Dak’s demands. To make matters worse, he wants a short term contract . The Cowboys are getting screwed on every level if they give in to Dak.

Only someone who has lived in a cave for the past 10 years or so wouldn't see that the price for all players has gone up every year ESPECIALLY for QB's. Also there will be QB's next year that haven't had even close to Prescott's winning percentage that will demand and get more than what Prescott will get because the price keeps going up every year.
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Today’s pay scale is today’s pay scale. How is it reasonable to want to be paid by tomorrow’s pay scale? It isn’t. I have never seen a job that paid wages on a future scale. It is beyond unreasonable for a player like Dak to be the highest paid player in the league because at some point he assumes that QB pay might reach the level that he is asking for. It is not good business for Jerry to give in to Dak’s demands. To make matters worse, he wants a short term contract . The Cowboys are getting screwed on every level if they give in to Dak.
Cousins and Garropollo were both made the highest paid player when their contracts were signed, and Dak had accomplished more than both of them at that time. Garropollo only played half a season lol.
 

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We're on the same page Redball. One exception though is I think there are a few individuals who love playing the game as much as they love the money.
I am ever hopeful that is somewhere on the questionnaire each player has to fill out..

"Why would you want to be a Dallas Cowboy if we selected you?"

Hmm..
 

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What I believe isn’t crap and it’s obvious that my views have struck home with you. The crap that’s been spewed here are by those who continue to spin that Dak isn’t a good QB and that the Cowboys would be better off with a cheaper, lesser QB. If you want to continue feel free but I’m done!

It’s not that Dak isn’t a good QB. It’s just that he’s not worth what he’s asking.
 

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It’s not that Dak isn’t a good QB. It’s just that he’s not worth what he’s asking.

If you do some reading there’s a lot of fans here who don’t think he is a good QB.
 

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Mediocrity is NOT happily accepted! Just because someone wants to have a happy life, embrace hope, have fun, etc., etc., doesn’t mean they don’t care. People accept reality, realize things aren’t like they used to be, honor the past, and hope for the future—that’s about all we can do.
And modern day fans also makes excuses for every player on the team because they are Cowboys and good fans supports their team no matter what, it at least that is the way they see it. By the way , I have a very happy life and being a fan of this team for 50 years has no effect on my life outside of this board. Yes, people accept reality. They accept 25 years of losing and they accept how the modern players have tarnished the team’s legacy . They accept mediocrity and make excuses why it is okay in today’s modern era. At one time, the Cowboys were the class of the NFL and not only was competing for Super Bowls expected, it was demanded by fans. The Cowboys was equivalent to the modern day Patriots, but without the cheating scandals.
 

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Excellent point jnday, makes perfect sense. Those who don't understand are more concerned with cents than sense.
My reasoning is this , I would not pay for a new car with tomorrow’s prices. I don’t buy a car and overpay based on the long vacation that I may use that car for. I am buying the car at it’s current value. Why are fans wanting to pay Dak for production that may never happen instead of paying him for being the player that he has shown himself to be? I could list tons of reasons why Dak doesn’t deserve top ten pay, and surely doesn’t to be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.
 

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Cousins and Garropollo were both made the highest paid player when their contracts were signed, and Dak had accomplished more than both of them at that time. Garropollo only played half a season lol.
So Dallas should be just as stupid as other teams? Being stupid just because other people are stupid will not lead to a bright future.
 
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