News: NFL: Stephen Jones: We'll sign Prescott at the right number

[Cowboy4ever]

Any Player hires an agent to look after his interests when it comes to negotiating a contract, Daks trusts his ability to get a contract that's in Daks best interest, that's why he hired him, he's comfortable with what the agent is doing in negotiating his new deal, so Dak will listen to his agents advice..

That’s all true. But at the end of the day Dak makes the decision. Not the agent.

 

[DallasEast]

'Getting to the right number' sooner rather than later is far more beneficial for some fans' mental welfare than for Prescott's and the Joneses'.

 

[Longboysfan]

This gives me hope that the front office gets it. Dak can’t hamstring this team with his contract or we’re clucked.

Dak has hardball management and its looking more like he may move on in a year or two.

Stupid is as stupid does.
The agent should look at the revenue stream Dak has as QB of the Cowboys as opposed to being the QB of Jacksonville.
Then measure that against their contract demand.

I've noticed that all Dak's commercials had him in a Cowboys uniform.
That means the Cowboys had to give permission for him to show it on the commercials. Their trademark.
How much of a cut the Cowboys took if any is unknown. But Dak would get the larger share.

As soon as contract came up the commercials disappeared. Well at least from what I see living in the DFW.

Balance it out.

 

[BigD_95]

If you want to buy into the, there is only so much pie to go around that he spews out, thats on you. You buying into it is exactly what he wants. SJ says it, so it must be true. He knows exactly how it works, but he wants to "win" the negotiations. To do that he needs the public on his side and make it look like Dak is over reaching so when they do sign him for under what they told the public, he looks like he wins. Thats why they leaked the 40m in Aug and said Dak was asking for that and he wasnt at the time. That was their original proposal after the Cowboys low balled with the first offer at 25m. The 40m was just a *** to the Cowboys. The counter offer in may of last year was 34m from Daks side. But everyone bought into the 40m in Aug. Hell, to this day, there are still people buying into it, after it has been shown false over and over and over again.

I agree the Cowboys are not in some cap problem and its not as bad as they make it out to be. I agree they sale the problem so fans do not get upset when certain players are not signed or free agents. I also agree they use this as a way to get public support.

But do you do realize there is a actually cap and it is simple math? The more you pay one player per year the less money there is to pay other players. Its pretty much that simple. There is a reason Tom Brady took less money over the years. The more Dak makes the less money they can pay other players. If there was no cap my guess is B. Jones would have been resigned and Dak contract would have been done long ago.

I actually suppoirt resigning Dak and I bet what I think is a fair deal is way more than what most do. I have no issues paying him a little more than what Wilson is making and making Dak the highest paid QB in the NFL right now. But I also think if Dallas does do that than it should be for a 5 or 6 year deal. If Dak is dead set on a 4 year deal than I think he should get paid less per year. Dak needs to give somewhere. It shouldnt all be on the Cowboys.

 

[Sydla]

SJ at it again with the team friendly **** trying to get the public on his side. From some these comments, its working.

LOL.

He's right. The market for new QBs have been set with with Wentz and Goff. It's Dak that is asking for something above and beyond.

 

[Sydla]

The last reported offer I saw was $33.5 million a year for five years , $105 million guaranteed. I do understand the structure. I also understand that comparatively the Rams had more leverage on Goff than the Cowboys have on Dak. The Cowboys only have two franchise tags remaining. The Rams at the time had year 4, a fifth year option, and two tags. Had the Cowboys come to the table with a comparable offer after Dak's third season they could have spread the money better as well. But at that point they were only offering $25 million a year. The fact that they don't have more years to spread the money around is because they were lowballing him.

Timing is an excuse. The deals are what the deals are. Wentz and Goff signed deals that were essentially 6 year deals. Dak is refusing to sign anything more than 4 years. So he is the one asking for something that's outside the box. If you want to quibble with the guaranteed money being a bit lower, fine. His guaranteed money is a bit less than Goff, for example.

Dak wants the same (or more) amount of money Wentz/Goff got AND less years so he can try to cash in again in 4 years. Now, I don't begrudge a guy for trying to get the best he can get but when there is precedent out there, it's tough to side with the guy trying to exceed what's justified.

I am not concerned at this point. This is just posturing at this point.

 

[Sydla]

Then the Cowboys should have no problem paying Dak the same amount of money that Goff and Wentz got over the 1st 4 years of their contract with the Eagles and Rams. So Dak may very well get his $40 million a year deal!

Nobody cried (including Dak) when he was on average the 77th highest paid QB in the NFL. NOBODY. That was a Dak Prescott problem and not a Dallas Cowboys problem...and I agree. Dak never held out or even threaten to hold out...he performed his contractual obligations...even while the Matt Staffords of the world made more in 1 half than Dak was making in one entire season.

But your assertion that Dak should sign a 6 year contract and lock himself into a deal that will cause him to be underpaid AGAIN in 4 years is a nonstarter.

Now the Cowboys wanting to spread out the cap hit over 6 years instead of 4 years...ready...wait for it...sounds like a Dallas Cowboys problem...and not a Dak Prescott one.

The guaranteed money is all that matters in terms of pay. And Dak's reported offer is just a few million less in guaranteed money than Goff and Wentz. So the Cowboys should bring that up. But are you suggesting the Cowboys should basically give Dak back pay for not making as much as Wentz and Goff did on their rookie deals?

That's absurd and it doesn't work like that. It's never worked like that. You get paid your market value now, now that you were underpaid in a previous contract.

Wentz and Goff will be underpaid in 4 years. Mahomes will sign a new deal in a year or so and then in 3-4 years, he'll probably be underpaid. So the whole "he'll be underpaid in 4 years" is ridiculous. I mean shoot, if I were Dak, just ask for one year deals and then try to be the highest paid every year if your fear is you'll be underpaid in a few years!

 

[BourbonBalz]

Blame the agent, not Dak..

I’m a big Dak supporter, but this statement is just wrong. His agent works for him. Dak can accept any deal he wants.

 

[dckid]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ys-evp-well-sign-prescott-at-the-right-number

Let Dak wait.. until the economy collapses. When the Dow is at 15K, him getting a 35 million dollar contract will look very selfish as 30 million folks have lost their jobs.
Even my 8 year old knows how to read the mood of the situation. Just take the 33 million per year and be happy.
You play well enough you will get a third contract.

 

[InTheZone]

well hes not just an avg qb.

Everytime he's play the "elite" guys he's played with them or even better. He's outplayed Rodgers, Goff, and Wilson in his playoff games. Its not his fault the defense couldnt stop the rams or packers. Daks rookie yr he was great in close games winning on late drives. Then from 2017-2019 the offensive coaches tried to get cute and them close games started to go the other way.

Dak deserves to be paid higher than Wentz and Goff because he's played better and has out performed them. Its not his fault the market is overpaying QBs.

Lol bad Goff is not elite, but lets not act like he hasnt embarrassed our qb play in ptevious games. Excluding the last matchup those other games just made most of us feel bad for our QB.

And I'm not for our guys setting the market just because someone else was overpaid. What lifestyle difference is 30 mil vs 35? Stop being greedy, acknowledge you once again have a ton of talent at your disposal and hope we cant give him more excuses when he fails.

 

[ChuckA1]

The Rams overpaid Goff, there's no doubt about it. They made so many financial mistakes and they are now suffering from it. This is why I hope Dak will take a team friendly deal ($34-35 million) for five years, $110 million guaranteed. Both Dak and the team meet in the middle.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

This gives me hope that the front office gets it. Dak can’t hamstring this team with his contract or we’re clucked.

Dak has hardball management and its looking more like he may move on in a year or two.

Exactly. I hope Dak can understand that. Would he really want to be paid insanely great and spend every game constantly getting flattened by linemen and linebackers because we can't afford a quality line to protect him? Or how about if he only has scrub receivers and he can rarely find one open? Or if the defense is so bad he has to score 45 points a game? I don't blame him for wanting to be paid well, and this team will pay him fairly, but if we get into that territory of overpaying, we're hozed. We would be better off letting him walk than overpaying.

 

[The Quest for Six]

I’m a big Dak supporter, but this statement is just wrong. His agent works for him. Dak can accept any deal he wants.

Really, so when you hire a lawyer or agent, do you tell him how to do his job when it comes to contract law or criminal cases??? Dak's agent represents Dak and is looking out for his client, that's why he was hired......Dak doesn't negotiate with jerry, the Agent does, otherwise why would he need an agent then if he'll just accept any deal he wants...

 

[kskboys]

Really, so when you hire a lawyer or agent, do you tell him how to do his job when it comes to contract law or criminal cases??? Dak's agent represents Dak and is looking out for his client, that's why he was hired......Dak doesn't negotiate with jerry, the Agent does, otherwise why would he need an agent then if he'll just accept any deal he wants...

Yes, you do. The agent then follows the client's instructions.

 

[DallasEast]

I agree the Cowboys are not in some cap problem and its not as bad as they make it out to be. I agree they sale the problem so fans do not get upset when certain players are not signed or free agents. I also agree they use this as a way to get public support.

But do you do realize there is a actually cap and it is simple math? The more you pay one player per year the less money there is to pay other players. Its pretty much that simple. There is a reason Tom Brady took less money over the years. The more Dak makes the less money they can pay other players. If there was no cap my guess is B. Jones would have been resigned and Dak contract would have been done long ago.

I actually suppoirt resigning Dak and I bet what I think is a fair deal is way more than what most do. I have no issues paying him a little more than what Wilson is making and making Dak the highest paid QB in the NFL right now. But I also think if Dallas does do that than it should be for a 5 or 6 year deal. If Dak is dead set on a 4 year deal than I think he should get paid less per year. Dak needs to give somewhere. It shouldnt all be on the Cowboys.

<snip>

The quarterback, who is the 18th highest-paid player, discussed his salary on Thursday during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live, where he explained why he’s happy to let his supermodel wife be the main breadwinner.

After initially brushing off the question of why he doesn’t make the most of any player, Brady told the host: “I think the thing I’ve always felt for me in my life, winning has been a priority.

“And my wife makes a lot of money. I’m a little smarter than you think.”

Bundchen, who began modelling when she was 15, has an estimated net worth of $400m. In 2018, the model, who has previously held the title of highest-paid model in the world, came in fifth place on Forbes list of highest-paid models with an annual income of $10m.

According to NFL.com, Brady receives a salary of $15m, which does not include revenue from sponsorships.

<snip>

Brady explained he doesn’t ask for more money because of the NFL salary cap on teams.

“Actually, it’s a salary cap and you can only spend so much and the more one guy gets it’s less for the others,” he said. “And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

May 3, 2019 article link: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gisele-bundchen-salary-wife-nfl-a8898436.html

The above are Tom Brady's own words.

In 2019 alone, Brady supplemented his income through commercial deals with advertisers such as Beautyrest, Dodge, Wheels Up, Hulu, Under Armour, TAG Heuer, Beats Audio, Foot Locker, EA Mobile, Intel, Aston Martin, etc.

Let's review.

Brady stated his Patriots salary, ranked 18th in the league at the time of article, provided New England and him a competitive advantage for paying more good players.

Brady does not talk about one thing: his commercial endorsement income.

Brady does talk about one thing: his wife's money.

All-in-all, what is the one factor (in the real world) Brady has and Prescott does not have in terms of personal wealth satisfaction solely in consideration of an NFL salary alone? Interestingly enough, it is the same single factor not emphasized or is minimized in any discussions about what Prescott "should" ask for in his new contract...

Interesting indeed.

 

[blueblood70]

At draft time, I was a huge fan of Wentz but I'm here to tell you that if you think Wentz is a good as Dak, you're not paying attention. Wentz has more wormburners and airballs than I have ever seen in a 1st rnd pick. He has a bigger arm than Dak, that's true but that is the only thing. Dak is cool under pressure, has a good enough arm, can run, and has a knack for comebacks. He has been a victim of one of the worst drop rate receiving corps in the NFL. This was a talking point for Wentz apologists in the past (not sure if you were one of those) why is that suddenly no excuse for Dak. Do I think Dak deserves to be the highest paid player in football? NO. Do I think he is the best Qb in football? No, but he isn't junk either and he has been better than Wentz from day one and is still better than Wentz, just not 40 mill worth better.

I saw Wentz take a huge step forward with no weapons and will his team to a Division win and playoff birth.. it was a win and you are in game and they had to play like 3 of those in a row and dak regressed each game in the same time frame.. he is every bit the qb dak is with a bigger arm and better tight throw on his spirals.BTW Daks over throws under throws and some worm burers are also in play... I didnt say better I sad in same exact zip code as different games but both have warts but wentz the SB year before injury wa son pace fro an MVP season.. he had no weapons last year and beat DAK.. dak did not will us to any wons last year..down the stretch wentz proved when helathy hes as good for sure if not slightly better .. sorry its the truth..

they both RRE TIER 2 neither is special and dak does not deserve more then him..

 

[jaythecowboy]

Timing is an excuse. The deals are what the deals are. Wentz and Goff signed deals that were essentially 6 year deals. Dak is refusing to sign anything more than 4 years. So he is the one asking for something that's outside the box. If you want to quibble with the guaranteed money being a bit lower, fine. His guaranteed money is a bit less than Goff, for example.

Dak wants the same (or more) amount of money Wentz/Goff got AND less years so he can try to cash in again in 4 years. Now, I don't begrudge a guy for trying to get the best he can get but when there is precedent out there, it's tough to side with the guy trying to exceed what's justified.

I am not concerned at this point. This is just posturing at this point.

It's not an excuse. It's is a fact that Wentz and Goff had less leverage than Dak. Dak can play this year at $31 million and next year at $38 million, then become a free agent and get $40 million a year at minimum. Wentz and Goff And the Cowboys still haven't matched Goff on even guaranteed money. Dak isn't asking for anything out of bounds. No free agent qb this offseason signed for five years. Had the Cowboys been forward thinking like the Rams and Eagles they could have gotten this deal done when Dak was playing for $2 million and been able to spread the money out better. But they only offered him $25 million a year. They are doing the same thing they did with D Law and gonna end up paying more because of it.

 

[BigD_95]

<snip>

The quarterback, who is the 18th highest-paid player, discussed his salary on Thursday during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live, where he explained why he’s happy to let his supermodel wife be the main breadwinner.

After initially brushing off the question of why he doesn’t make the most of any player, Brady told the host: “I think the thing I’ve always felt for me in my life, winning has been a priority.

“And my wife makes a lot of money. I’m a little smarter than you think.”

Bundchen, who began modelling when she was 15, has an estimated net worth of $400m. In 2018, the model, who has previously held the title of highest-paid model in the world, came in fifth place on Forbes list of highest-paid models with an annual income of $10m.

According to NFL.com, Brady receives a salary of $15m, which does not include revenue from sponsorships.

<snip>

Brady explained he doesn’t ask for more money because of the NFL salary cap on teams.

“Actually, it’s a salary cap and you can only spend so much and the more one guy gets it’s less for the others,” he said. “And for a competitive advantage standpoint, I like to get a lot of good players around me.”

May 3, 2019 article link: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...gisele-bundchen-salary-wife-nfl-a8898436.html

The above are Tom Brady's own words.

In 2019 alone, Brady supplemented his income through commercial deals with advertisers such as Beautyrest, Dodge, Wheels Up, Hulu, Under Armour, TAG Heuer, Beats Audio, Foot Locker, EA Mobile, Intel, Aston Martin, etc.

Let's review.

Brady stated his Patriots salary, ranked 18th in the league at the time of article, provided New England and him a competitive advantage for paying more good players.

Brady does not talk about one thing: his commercial endorsement income.

Brady does talk about one thing: his wife's money.

All-in-all, what is the one factor (in the real world) Brady has and Prescott does not have in terms of personal wealth satisfaction solely in consideration of an NFL salary alone? Interestingly enough, it is the same single factor not emphasized or is minimized in any discussions about what Prescott "should" ask for in his new contract...

Interesting indeed.

Not sure what your point is? That he takes less so they can pay other players or he takes less cause his wife is rich

Because if its because his wife is rich then you are saying the 100 + million Dak would get in guarantees isn't enough money. I beg to differ.

The Cowboys I would say are Dak's wife because he will make more in endorsements being the QB of the Cowboys and the state's tax or lack there of

and my guess is there is a prenup with his wife - he wont see any of that money if they get divorced - he probably just uses his wife's money as an excuse to take less so he doesn't look like a fool to his peers for taking less money

 

[BourbonBalz]

Really, so when you hire a lawyer or agent, do you tell him how to do his job when it comes to contract law or criminal cases??? Dak's agent represents Dak and is looking out for his client, that's why he was hired......Dak doesn't negotiate with jerry, the Agent does, otherwise why would he need an agent then if he'll just accept any deal he wants...

I’m going to go real slow so you’ll understand. The agent, like an attorney, can make recommendations, but it’s ultimately up to the client. As I said, Dak can accept any offer he wants and there’s not a damned thing the agent can do about it. The agent works for Dak, not the other way around.

FYI, I was a federal agent for almost 30 years. Everyone I was trying to put in prison had an attorney. The attorney could make recommendations to the client such as pleading guilty, pleading not guilty, or negotiating a plea deal. But, it was ultimately the decision of the target. Period.

 

[DallasEast]

Not sure what your point is? That he takes less so they can pay other players or he takes less cause his wife is rich

Because if its because his wife is rich then you are saying the 100 + million Dak would get in guarantees isn't enough money. I beg to differ.

The Cowboys I would say are Dak's wife because he will make more in endorsements being the QB of the Cowboys and the state's tax or lack there of

and my guess is there is a prenup with his wife - he wont see any of that money if they get divorced - he probably just uses his wife's money as an excuse to take less so he doesn't look like a fool to his peers for taking less money

My apologies. Concisely, the point is it highly likely Brady would have been asking for more money throughout his career if not for his wife.

Brady is correct in saying he is smart when it comes to past salary cap considerations with New England but his own words reflect his logic was/is indicative of his marital status. And he is right about that as well.

Any "Prescott should do what Brady has done" argument is fundamentally flawed if a Gisele counterpart for Prescott is not factored into it. A stronger, more relevant financial/salary cap argument of that type could be made if Prescott was as lucky as a son of a you-know-what as Brady has been as far as spouses are concerned.