News: NFL: Stephen Jones: We'll sign Prescott at the right number

[Qcard]

"We certainly want Dak to be happy, but we also want to surround him with great football players.""

I wish Dak would understand this one line

What makes you think he doesn't?

 

[kskboys]

What makes you think he doesn't?

Because he's holding out for max money.

 

[Sydla]

It's not an excuse. It's is a fact that Wentz and Goff had less leverage than Dak. Dak can play this year at $31 million and next year at $38 million, then become a free agent and get $40 million a year at minimum. Wentz and Goff And the Cowboys still haven't matched Goff on even guaranteed money. Dak isn't asking for anything out of bounds. No free agent qb this offseason signed for five years. Had the Cowboys been forward thinking like the Rams and Eagles they could have gotten this deal done when Dak was playing for $2 million and been able to spread the money out better. But they only offered him $25 million a year. They are doing the same thing they did with D Law and gonna end up paying more because of it.

My guess is if Dak concedes to a longer term they will increase the guaranteed money. There's no point in giving him all the guaranteed he wants if he's going to dig in on the years still. That would be dumb.

How many QBs signed this year while in their rookie deal still or coming off it?

 

[cern]

Because he's holding out for max money.

Understanding and caring are two different things.

 

[jaythecowboy]

My guess is if Dak concedes to a longer term they will increase the guaranteed money. There's no point in giving him all the guaranteed he wants if he's going to dig in on the years still. That would be dumb.

How many QBs signed this year while in their rookie deal still or coming off it?

That thinking seems backwards to me. The guaranteed money they offered was based on a five year deal. To my knowledge the Cowboys never offered a four year deal and if they did it would be for even less guaranteed money.

 

[Qcard]

Because he's holding out for max money.

What does negotiating for a Max money have to do with surrounding Dak with great players?
This isn't the PRE 2011-2019 CBA.

Cap Hell is trope pushed by lazy GMs and cheap owners to feed gullible fans into thinking some top QB market restricts teams from acquiring top free agents, drafting effectively and talent development.

Brainwashed football fans believe this Cap Hell 19th and 20th Century dog whistle....

Smart teams hire intelligent people to handle salary caps...Cheap owners and dinosaur GMs sell this crap to fans...

 

[cern]

What does negotiating for a Max money have to do with surrounding Dak with great players?
This isn't the PRE 2011-2019 CBA.

Cap Hell is trope pushed by lazy GMs and cheap owners to feed gullible fans into thinking some top QB market restricts teams from acquiring top free agents, drafting effectively and talent development.

Brainwashed football fans believe this Cap Hell 19th and 20th Century dog whistle....

Smart teams hire intelligent people to handle salary caps...Cheap owners and dinosaur GMs sell this crap to fans...

Many think the salary cap is spent using monopoly money, but it's not. Many players are released because they become cap casualties. The simplistic pie chart is in fact reality. The more dak gets, the less remains for others. True, money can be deferred and spread out over several years, but such manipulation leads to dead money problems later.

 

[Qcard]

Many think the salary cap is spent using monopoly money, but it's not. Many players are released because they become cap casualties. The simplistic pie chart is in fact reality. The more dak gets, the less remains for others. True, money can be deferred and spread out over several years, but such manipulation leads to dead money problems later.

Again...that is PRE 2011 CBA mentality!

The owners negotiated to ensure they could with hold some League revenues from Future Salary Caps!

The Owners purposely negotiated for 53% - 47% revenue split with players in CBA. 47% of $16B NFL 2019 is roughly $5B for players. Enter salary cap to determine how teams divide the pie....

Even the weakest mathetician can see the Owners negotiate to give a smaller pie of revenue....then feed the fans with Cap hell balony to go cheap (team friendly) on Contracts....wake up

 

[DakBringMeBack]

I mean this has to get done. This has been such a bad look from both sides. Solidify this and run to daylight

 

[Diehardblues]

Blame the agent, not Dak..

At some point you have to blame Dak. His agents do after all represent him. It’s up to Dak to step in and resolve this if Cowboys have drawn their line in the sand.

If Dak chooses to walk away from the deal then that’s his decision . And we will need to begin looking elsewhere for our future.

 

[glimmerman]

Again, if the issue is simply years and Dak's camp is holding out for 4, then he's the one closer to being unreasonable than the Cowboy who see the benefit in a longer term deal for cap purposes, etc.

I keep hearing that the numbers are close and could be done. But the years are off. Daks side wants 4 max. And JJ likely wants 6. Give him a 4 year deal with out in 3. I know what Daks side is doing and it’s not kool. Cashing in twice. It’s business at the end of the day but can’t remember another QB doing this. Most players and or QBs want the security of the long term deal and big money. He wants to squeeze all he can out of the signing bonus and guaranteed money.

 

[cowboyed]

Really that is my only disappointment with Dak. He has received lucrative and reasonable term offers from the Cowboys. Get this pending contract issue resolved and stop holding off participating in the off-season virtual workout program. It's petty not to participate in a computer based training program and it's not befitting of being the starting quarterback and field general of the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ys-evp-well-sign-prescott-at-the-right-number

Yep and even that is too much....
Let him live of endorsements!

 

[Diehardblues]

I keep hearing that the numbers are close and could be done. But the years are off. Daks side wants 4 max. And JJ likely wants 6. Give him a 4 year deal with out in 3. I know what Daks side is doing and it’s not kool. Cashing in twice. It’s business at the end of the day but can’t remember another QB doing this. Most players and or QBs want the security of the long term deal and big money. He wants to squeeze all he can out of the signing bonus and guaranteed money.

If Dak goes into the season ( assuming there is a season which is doubtful ) on the Franchise Tag because he’s turned down offers stonewalling negotiations prepare for him to be booed if there are fans in the stands.

Most likely none of this will play out this year because there will be no football. And perhaps that’s part of the strategy here. Both parties feel nothing is going to happen until next year anyway when the NFL resumes play.

 

[Typhus]

You clearly did not read my post. But you're damn right...as I SAID...that was a Dak problem he wasn't drafted higher...it is also NOT a Dak problem NOW that the Cowboys want to sign him to a 6 year deal to spread out the cap hit...that is a COWBOYS problem.

The Cowboys want ALL the structural benefits of a rookie QB first round deal...all while...get this...paying him as a 4th rounder...No...if you want him to sign a 6 year deal to match Wentz and Goff...the Cowboys can start by PAYING Dak his back pay that Wentz and Goff too.

That's the most ridiculous post I have ever read on this forum.

 

[HotDog37]

31.3 mil, done. Or Tag. Or walk.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not certain, but I believe Dak has done more endorsements than Brady. Should the extra money in endorsements enter into the equation? I guess I'm just dumb, but I can't see any real lifestyle difference taking $32, 33, 34 or 35 million a year. Nor can I see a difference in 105 million or 110 million in guaranteed money. If Dak can give a little to help the team, maybe the team will go out to five years, instead of six.

But really, this is all speculation as we know nothing about what the actual stumbling blocks are.

Yep and it makes little sense to be happy at 31 million and upset if he gets paid 33 million. LOL

As if the 2 million is going to crush our hopes and dreams.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Yep and it makes little sense to be happy at 31 million and upset if he gets paid 33 million. LOL

As if the 2 million is going to crush our hopes and dreams.

With that extra $2 million a year the Cowboys could have kept Byron Jones and Robert Quinn

 

[GMO415]

But first Andy Dalton for the right number

 

[CowboyRoy]

With that extra $2 million a year the Cowboys could have kept Byron Jones and Robert Quinn

2 million does add up with all these guys. However, chincing on your QB makes little sense. Pay the market, and be done with it. Pretty simply stuff.

They had the money to keep both players you mentioned. However they clearly didn't think either was worth the money. A sentiment I completely agree with.