Twitter: Need to re-sign Michael Bennett

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I’m sure he doesn’t. But those are some pretty good players right there.
It is.

The best thing to me is guys like Cobb and Quinn had good seasons with us and went on to grab bigger deals elsewhere.

The Pat's have been like this for years. They take guys, play them and trade or release.

We get comp picks, etc.

Finally we are learning.
 

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Crawford has never, ever, ever, been better than Bennett. Not sure why you think a 30 year old DT trying to play DE coming off hips repair would suddenly morph into the better player.
I never, ever, ever said Crawford has ever, ever been better than Bennett. You're putting words in my mouth if you think that is what I said, I'm talking about future performance and the value of someone that wants to be there versus one that is just there to get paid. Bennett would rather be elsewhere.
 

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Absolutely not,i am sick of this guy jumping offsides twice a game.
 

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It is.

The best thing to me is guys like Cobb and Quinn had good seasons with us and went on to grab bigger deals elsewhere.

The Pat's have been like this for years. They take guys, play them and trade or release.

We get comp picks, etc.

Finally we are learning.
Four extra picks next draft, starting in the 3rd round.:)
 

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Which is nice and all, but gambling on old players with bad attitudes is always a sucker's bet.

Unless he's dirt cheap, in which case sure why not.

Bad attitude? It was reported he was one of the few on defense that cared all that much last year and was pushing guys to play better and harder. He's a weird dude for sure.
 

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I never, ever, ever said Crawford has ever, ever been better than Bennett. You're putting words in my mouth if you think that is what I said, I'm talking about future performance and the value of someone that wants to be there versus one that is just there to get paid. Bennett would rather be elsewhere.

I never said you did claim that. But you posted this:

I'd like to see Crawford play post hips repair before comparing him to Bennett and declaring Bennett better.

The point I was making, that went right over your head, was that Crawford has never been a better player than Bennett so I am not sure why you think it's possible that Crawford could suddenly become a better player now coming off hip surgery.
 
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Seems like they are waiting to see if Alton Smith and Gregory are re-instated before adding another DE.
 

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Which is nice and all, but gambling on old players with bad attitudes is always a sucker's bet.

Unless he's dirt cheap, in which case sure why not.

We need to make moves on the DL.


Our success, especially defensively, will be because of those guys.

The loss of Robert Quinn was big and right now our hopes are tied to Aldon Smith who has been out of Football for 4 years and Randy Gregory.. Neither is reinstated at this point either.

Dallas needs to sign a vet.. Griffin, Clowney, a trade... I don’t know but they need a defensive end.
 

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I never said you did claim that. The point I was making, that went right over your head, was that Crawford has never been a better player than Bennett so I am not sure why you think it's possible that Crawford could suddenly become a better player now coming off hip surgery.
Oh, I completely understood the strawman argument you were getting at.

I was crystal clear contrasting Crawford wanting to be here with Bennett not wanting to be here. It means more to Crawford, he is ours, I support him.
 

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Michael Bennett is much better than Ty Crawford.

This is simply untrue.
Bennett was better than Crawford before he aged.
Right now he is a gambler who jumped offsides as insane amount of times trying to get a jump on the pass rush.
Bennett was often just on the bench here.
He was a pure back up for DLaw.

You could re-sign him but you aren't getting a better player than Crawford if TC is healthy.
Then again Bennett won't cost you 8m either.

Crawford is a SDE, WDE, 3T.
Bennett is really just a SDE that can play 3T on passing downs only.
 

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Oh, I completely understood the strawman argument you were getting at.

I was crystal clear contrasting Crawford wanting to be here with Bennett not wanting to be here. It means more to Crawford, he is ours, I support him.

LOL. First off, you were not "crystal clear" about Crawford wanting to be here with Bennett not wanting to be here. You spoke none of that in your first post. You clearly said you wanted to see if Crawford was better coming off hip surgery. That's it.

And my rebuttal was clear and in no way suggested that you said Crawford was better. It was a simple comparison. Crawford has never been a better player than Bennett at any point in their career, so it's a bit strange to suggest that Crawford could be better this year coming off hip problems/surgery. You are now in spin mode to try to work your way out of a silly point you made.
 
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This is simply untrue.
Bennett was better than Crawford before he aged.
Right now he is a gambler who jumped offsides as insane amount of times trying to get a jump on the pass rush.
Bennett was often just on the bench here.
He was a pure back up for DLaw.

You could re-sign him but you aren't getting a better player than Crawford if TC is healthy.
Then again Bennett won't cost you 8m either.

Crawford is a SDE, WDE, 3T.
Bennett is really just a SDE that can play 3T on passing downs only.

Crawford is not a WDE. If Bennett isn't a WDE then neither is Crawford. Just because we may run him out there as a WDE doesn't mean he actually can play it effectively.

Bennett is a better player and a better fit at DE than Crawford. Crawford is basically a 3T trying to play DE. If you wanted to play him at DE, it would be better to play him at LDE but that's Lawrence's position.
 

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And FWIW, Bennett would not be my top choice. I'd go Griffen first, maybe Golden second and then possibly Bennett third. I just don't think Clowney is realistic as I think someone will eventually give him a one year deal for $13-14MM and I think you can get the three above for much cheaper.
 

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LOL. First off, you were not "crystal clear" about Crawford wanting to be here with Bennett not wanting to be here. You spoke none of that in your first post. You clearly said you wanted to see if Crawford was better coming off hip surgery. That's it.

And my rebuttal was clear and in no way suggested that you said Crawford was better. It was a simple comparison. Crawford has never been a better player than Bennett at any point in their career, so it's a bit strange to suggest that Crawford could be better this year coming off hip problems/surgery. You are now in spin mode to try to work your way out of a silly point you made.
HELLO!! Are we having a conversation here? Are you not able to grasps everything that's being said between us? At one point in our conversation, I said the following...
I never, ever, ever said Crawford has ever, ever been better than Bennett. You're putting words in my mouth if you think that is what I said, I'm talking about future performance and the value of someone that wants to be there versus one that is just there to get paid. Bennett would rather be elsewhere.

Now, come again about your claim that I never said something about Crawford wanting to be here and Bennett wanting to be somewhere else.

You have a bad habit of repeating yourself and that gets tiresome quickly. Your comprehension skills are lacking as well. I never suggest Crawford would be better than Bennett coming off hip surgery. If you'll take a second glance at what I actually said it was more of a "wait and see" suggestion. I want to know what kind of contribution Tyrone can make now that his hips are not holding him back so much.

There is no "spin mode" going on here on my behalf. I affirmed my curiosity for what Crawford could be now. That's all it was. If you mistakenly affixed a different meaning to what I said, then that is your own folly.
 

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You cutting Crawford?
Where you playing him?

I am not a fan of Bennett. At all. That said, if you could drop Crawford and pick him up that would be great. Plus I don’t think Bennett costs 8mm.
 
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