What to do with Prescott and this contract

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Personally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.

That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.

Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.

Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:

-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.

-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.

I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?

Thoughts?
 

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As crazy as it sounds, 45mil in 2024 won't be farfetched for salary for a QB the way the league is growing+TV contract battles/deal in 2022.

Sucks we got under 2 months till the hard deadline for the extension comes and goes. With this FO, they'll wait till 3:59pm on the 15th to come to an agreement.
 

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Personally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.

That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.

Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.

Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:

-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.

-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.

I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?

Thoughts?
The simple route is let him play under the tag and see what type of year it is, with the offensive players around him there should be no doubt of what he is worth. If he doesn't want to play under the tag let him sit out the season and go from there. I know most believe Jerry will cave at some point so honestly it doesn't matter until July 16th.
 

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Personally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.

That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.

Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.

Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:

-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.

-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.

I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?

Thoughts?

I say that both sides meet right in that middle - 5 years, $180 million for an average of $36 million a year.

When the stupid deal that the Texans give Deshaun Watson comes in at over $40 million a year, Dak's deal will look like a bargain and most will stop complaining and realize that we actually dodged a bullet.
 

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If playing under the franchise tag does not effect Dak's performance, and he is happy with it, then let him play on the tag this year and see how he does. This still leaves all the options on the table going forward.

JMO, I don't think he's happy with it. There were reports he would holdout of offseason events until he got a long term deal, but no hard details on what offseason events those were. It would be risky for him to holdout of TC, due to a slow season start or bad season would hurt a long term deal value.
 

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The simple route is let him play under the tag and see what type of year it is, with the offensive players around him there should be no doubt of what he is worth. If he doesn't want to play under the tag let him sit out the season and go from there. I know most believe Jerry will cave at some point so honestly it doesn't matter until July 16th.

Jerry will cave, even though 35 million is at the top for a QB. I thought 33m was what he should get, but I am not going to ruin our team and this run for 2 million per year.

I don't think letting him play on the tag does any good. 35 million will seem like a bargain in two years. To most of us, Dak has already proven himself. And he is getting better every year as predicted.

I agree that we should at least test him and hold out until the bitter end. Probably let him hold out for a bit into TC before he caves.
 

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I say that both sides meet right in that middle - 5 years, $180 million for an average of $36 million a year.

When the stupid deal that the Texans give Deshaun Watson comes in at over $40 million a year, Dak's deal will look like a bargain and most will stop complaining and realize that we actually dodged a bullet.

That's not a bad option either. I could be talked into that one.
 

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That's not a bad option either. I could be talked into that one.

It's being talked about in more areas that like they screwed up the tackle market with what they paid Tunsil, the Texans under Bill O'Brien incompetence, will in all likelihood now screw up quarterback contracts when they overpay Watson. Players are now taking advantage of a screwed up front office and rudderless ship in Houston. They're the reason why this team lost Randall Cobb. He wanted to return and play for McCarthy again but couldn't turn down the stupid money that the Texans offered him. If Watson signs his deal first, suddenly, the going rate for the next quarterback only jumps up that much more. If they truly want to keep Prescott long term, it's now or never.
 

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Give him his 4 year deal. Clock starts ticking. If we don't have playoff success within the 4 years, I don't want him. If we don't have success within the 4 years at all, I don't want McCarthy either. Would be an opportune time to blow everything up.
 

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I say that both sides meet right in that middle - 5 years, $180 million for an average of $36 million a year.

When the stupid deal that the Texans give Deshaun Watson comes in at over $40 million a year, Dak's deal will look like a bargain and most will stop complaining and realize that we actually dodged a bullet.

What's the incentive for signing on at a 5th year instead of 4 when others are getting north of $40M by then? This is why they're asking for that 5th year number if it's actually true. And what are the guarantees in your proposal?
 

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JMO, I don't think he's happy with it. There were reports he would holdout of offseason events until he got a long term deal, but no hard details on what offseason events those were. It would be risky for him to holdout of TC, due to a slow season start or bad season would hurt a long term deal value.

Well, that slow start to the season or not suiting up at all is his leverage. Similar to Zeke, you risk the season going to Hades without him at the helm. Ultimately, that's what will get the deal done.
 

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If playing under the franchise tag does not effect Dak's performance, and he is happy with it, then let him play on the tag this year and see how he does. This still leaves all the options on the table going forward.

See how he does?
 

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The simple route is let him play under the tag and see what type of year it is, with the offensive players around him there should be no doubt of what he is worth. If he doesn't want to play under the tag let him sit out the season and go from there. I know most believe Jerry will cave at some point so honestly it doesn't matter until July 16th.

There IS no doubt of his worth. So your suggestion is to let ANOTHER year go by with all these weapons with a REAL HC and try to sign him after?
 

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Give him his 4 year deal. Clock starts ticking. If we don't have playoff success within the 4 years, I don't want him. If we don't have success within the 4 years at all, I don't want McCarthy either. Would be an opportune time to blow everything up.

Yep...……...Give Dak and MM 4 years. Not a bad option at all. Most of the young contracts will be up by then anyway.
 
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