What to do with Prescott and this contract

[OmerV]

Personally, I am disappointed that he is all about the money. I guess in reality, I cant blame him for that, but I thought this process would be different. He is clearly trying to maximize EVERY dollar he can get now and in the future.

That being said, what do we do about his demands? Its pretty clear now that he will either accept the 35 million for 4 years or wants that 45 million tagged on for the 5th year. I think at the end of the day, if that 5th year came around, most of us would be more than happy to have paid that extra 10 million for another year. Dak will continue to improve and with MM I have a feeling this team is really going to take off. By then, Dak will be right outside the top 5 if not in there by that time.

Most likely Cooper and Zeke will be let go after another two years. That would free up 35 million.

Still, its a lot to ask for. I think we either do one of two things:

-Just go with the 4 year deal at 35 million per and start drafting and grooming a young QB for 4 years from now. And hopefully look to trade Dak and get something for him. This is NOT a bad plan. Especially if we devote the time to finding that young replacement and he is ready once the contract is up.

-Give into that 5th year, but simply pay him 45 million for that 5th year and don't make it guaranteed. So if we really want to keep him and we are in some kind of SB run then we have an option. If we can get them to agree to that.

I don't see any way that we should give in to this 5th year for 45 million. My only concern is Jerry. Will he take too long to groom a new guy or not do it at all?

Thoughts?

Assuming the story about the $45 million for the 5th year is true, if the 5th year is a team option, and the team could choose not to exercise, I'm not sure why there would be a problem. If the team wants to retain Dak in 5 years, $45 million likely will be a bargain at 2024 prices, and if they don't, they just don't exercise.

 

[cern]

That simply doesn’t mesh with the pecking order from our Pres and GM who has the final decision on Cowboys Football. I certainly haven’t seen any acknowledgement of Daddy turning over the reins.

This is something you’ve created in your mind. Which is fine. If you believe then it becomes factual to you.

jerry said romo would get his job back when his injury healed. but it didn't happen. jerry very specifically said dez would be a cowboy in 2018. Stephen let him go. putting those two things together requires something you do not possess.…………………...common sense. better than any degree. are you denying those events took place?

 

[doomsday9084]

Leave him on the tag. See what happens. I'm not nearly as convinced as others that the cap is going to explode. The NBA is predicting a 30 to 40% hit for next year's cap. The NFL isn't going to be completely immune even with the expanded schedule and cap percentages.

If Dallas does real well then you just pay him market value and deal with it. If the cap comes down or the team just struggles overall then you go a different direction.

 

[Brax]

Again, you seem really slow to evaluate. Do you need to see a QB win a SB to tell if he is quality? Coach?

MM has proven himself already and then the short term results only underline that.

Dak has been here for 4 years. If you need another year then you just aren't too good at all this.

It was obvious with Dak his rookie year and the 3 years since then have only bolstered that evidence.

And he did all that with the bad coaching all around.

Haaa Haaaaa thanks for my daily laugh. I cut Dak some slack never said he had to win the SB. So far he has proven zero, now the excuses can stop let him play on the tag.

 

[Brax]

He’s a proven HC with the Packers. His worth here hasn’t been measured yet but we can still arguably describe him as a proven winner coming in.

There is QB in GB who says MM is a dunce

 

[Reid1boys]

To do what ? Win a championship or prove they were Elite QB’s?

The poster said he would have no problem signing Dak and letting him go if he hadnt gotten it done within 4 years... obviously he was talking about winning a SB.

 

[Diehardblues]

jerry said romo would get his job back when his injury healed. but it didn't happen. jerry very specifically said dez would be a cowboy in 2018. Stephen let him go. putting those two things together requires something you do not possess.…………………...common sense. better than any degree. are you denying those events took place?

Of course. This is where you get frustrated with the discussion and begin insulting me.

Apparently you haven’t grasped that I’ve acknowledged Stephens influence but maintaining Jerry still has the last word which if I recall correctly it was Jerry who last met with Dez before the plug was pulled .

Jerry had to be convinced to let Romo go. In the end as I argued strongly at the time Jerry felt he was better off losing with Dak than taking a chance losing with Romo which as we saw with Garrett last year Public Opinion is often the determining factor for Jerry’s final and sometimes reluctant decisions.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How many years did it take Peyton Manning? Steve Young? Brees? Dan Fouts?

I don't see how that has anything to do with planning ahead, drafting, and attempting to groom our next QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

There is QB in GB who says MM is a dunce

Regardless of name calling , McCarthy had championship caliber success there.

If we can’t agree to call that proven success then where do we begin?

 

[Reid1boys]

Unfortunately the Cap era generally hasn’t provided for the time or opportunity to “ groom” QB’s as were done in previous eras.
Usually in Cap era the higher drafted QB’s start immediately usually more out of need. And probably why more have been bust this era combined with starting for awful teams.

and that was my point to the posters claim we should draft and groom a QB. You dont have time to draft a kid (high in the draft) and then sit them for 3 years behind your starter. Those days are long gone. I aint taking the time to look, but I would be curious as to when each current starting qb in the league was drafted.
Do we want to draft a qb in round 1 or 2 and then sit them for 3 years? Then you will need to decide on whether to resign a player that hasnt played. It makes NO SENSE.

 

[CowboyRoy]

LOL...…...so its the word "groom" that made you go ballistic?

Maybe someone else will fight with you about the word "groom"?

 

[cern]

Really, I must be crazy because I could have sworn that Philly signed a Slay to almost $17mil per & Hargrave at $13Mil & put in an offer for Clowney.

they did. clowney hasn't signed with them. but they lost vaitai, Jordan howard, darby, hill, Agholor, nigel bradham and Malcolm Jenkins.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Won't take that long.

LLLOOOLLL

 

[CowboyRoy]

its a very smart move IF IT WORKS. This young kid GB just drafted could end up sucking, and it could force Rodgers to another team. If Rodgers pulls a manning and goes to play for another team and wins a SB, and the kid the pack just drafted is a bust(both totally possible) then how will drafting the kid be viewed? It will be viewed as one of the dumbest moves in recent history.

Hey, Im curious about something. Since Billy Boy up in NE is the consensus genius, best football mind ever... did he plan ahead?Is his starter ready to rock and roll with Brady gone?

I would never pass up a good QB even if I have one and he is young. Personally, I would be QB university. DRAFT em, GROOM them, trade them or start them. And keep them coming.

And to your point...…..if they don't work out, cut and keep going.

I would probably do the same thing with RB's, especially if I had a great Oline. Make them look good behind our line for a few years, then trade them.

But that's just me.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Assuming the story about the $45 million for the 5th year is true, if the 5th year is a team option, and the team could choose not to exercise, I'm not sure why there would be a problem. If the team wants to retain Dak in 5 years, $45 million likely will be a bargain at 2024 prices, and if they don't, they just don't exercise.

So you like one of my options obviously?

 

[OmerV]

So you like one of my options obviously?

Honestly I didn't read all the way through your post, but now that I have, yes, I like one of your options

 

[Diehardblues]

and that was my point to the posters claim we should draft and groom a QB. You dont have time to draft a kid (high in the draft) and then sit them for 3 years behind your starter. Those days are long gone. I aint taking the time to look, but I would be curious as to when each current starting qb in the league was drafted.
Do we want to draft a qb in round 1 or 2 and then sit them for 3 years? Then you will need to decide on whether to resign a player that hasnt played. It makes NO SENSE.

Unfortunately it doesn’t make sense any longer. The Cap simply doesn’t allow most teams to sit a QB 2 or 3 years. It’s a different league now in that respect.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Haaa Haaaaa thanks for my daily laugh. I cut Dak some slack never said he had to win the SB. So far he has proven zero, now the excuses can stop let him play on the tag.

Dak has proven zero?

Again you show a complete lack of QB analysis abilities. Like I said...……...you actually have to see a QB win a SB to think he is good.

Dak doesn't need excuses. Excuses for what? Wait...…...are we back to "Dak needs to win a SB"?

What about Zeke, does he need to win a SB or just a rushing title here and there?

 

[cern]

Of course. This is where you get frustrated with the discussion and begin insulting me.

Apparently you haven’t grasped that I’ve acknowledged Stephens influence but maintaining Jerry still has the last word which if I recall correctly it was Jerry who last met with Dez before the plug was pulled .

Jerry had to be convinced to let Romo go. In the end as I argued strongly at the time Jerry felt he was better off losing with Dak than taking a chance losing with Romo which as we saw with Garrett last year Public Opinion is often the determining factor for Jerry’s final and sometimes reluctant decisions.

pointing out the obvious is not frustration anymore than criticizing a player makes one a hater. it is you who never supports your opinion with any facts. just the same old redundant idiot jerry line. that's all you've got. the fact you think jerry cares about public opinion suggests extreme naivete on your part.

 

[OmerV]

Unfortunately it doesn’t make sense any longer. The Cap simply doesn’t allow most teams to sit a QB 2 or 3 years. It’s a different league now in that respect.

The only way it makes sense is if a team drafts a QB after the first round, and even 2nd round is hard because that's a pretty high draft pick to use on a player you don't plan to be in the lineup for a few years. Dak would have been a great one to groom if Romo could have stayed healthy. The Pats generally have a 2nd/3rd round QB on the roster to groom as well, although most have ended up on other teams because Brady has played so long.