What's the obsession with Dak Prescott's contract?

[DandyDon52]

Enlighten us...what is the issue? You dont like him, he wants too much, he's not good enough? What can you control that we can't?

If we only debated things we can control, this forum would be dead.

 

[RodeoJake]

If we only debated things we can control, this forum would be dead.

Ranching just likes to be a burr under folks saddle.

 

[Jarv]

Because common sense isn't click bait and Dak Haters are deplorable

The last time someone labled people "deplorable", it didn't work out too well for them...lol

 

[Qcard]

The last time someone labled people "deplorable", it didn't work out too well for them...lol

Really.... think about it hmmm TODAY it appears it did lol

 

[HungryLion]

Some people are under the misguided perception that signing him long term will destroy the cowboys salary cap and make it impossible for them to field a competitive team.

Which is just not based in reality.

 

[USArmyVet]

I see multiple new threads everyday about the same subject matter-Dak Prescott's contract. The National media seem as obsessed as many on this board. There isn't much to debate:

-Ownership has come out and stated Dak Prescott is their franchise QB. He is under contract, team wants to sign him long-term and will not rescind the offer sheet under any circumstance.

-The likes of Goff/Wentz in his QB Class signed long-term extensions. Dak has arguable been as good if not better then the both of them. He will sign a market level contract. Many fans forget the post Aikman years at the position. It's quite comical that many have suggested they rather have Andy Dalton as the team's starting QB.

-Dak team's have accomplished the same level as did Romo, divisional rd of the playoffs. Both QB's have played on talented teams, but haven't been able to breakthrough. Perhaps having an average Head Coach has played a role in their lack of success.

Goff went to a Super Bowl and Wentz set up the team for their Super Bowl run so tell me how Dak and his 1-2 career playoff record is better than Goff and Wentz? He's not.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I see multiple new threads everyday about the same subject matter-Dak Prescott's contract. The National media seem as obsessed as many on this board. There isn't much to debate:

-Ownership has come out and stated Dak Prescott is their franchise QB. He is under contract, team wants to sign him long-term and will not rescind the offer sheet under any circumstance.

-The likes of Goff/Wentz in his QB Class signed long-term extensions. Dak has arguable been as good if not better then the both of them. He will sign a market level contract. Many fans forget the post Aikman years at the position. It's quite comical that many have suggested they rather have Andy Dalton as the team's starting QB.

-Dak team's have accomplished the same level as did Romo, divisional rd of the playoffs. Both QB's have played on talented teams, but haven't been able to breakthrough. Perhaps having an average Head Coach has played a role in their lack of success.

The obsession is very simple. The trolls can no longer claim that Dak isn't good or is average. That gig is up and has been blown out of the water. So all they can focus on is the fact that he isn't worth the big money.

Its all they got left. Hanging on by a thread.

 

[GenoT]

Mostly, it’s boredom.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's not it either.

For someone stating how simple it is and throwing some veiled insults, you sure did miss it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do you figure? This guy completely nailed it.

So what do you think it is?

 

[CowboyRoy]

One thing I see on here a lot more here lately that irritates me...The constant labeling everyone either a “Dak hate” or “Dak lover”
Not to mention the general overuse of the terms “hate” and “love”...
Why does it have to be so polarizing? We can disagree on our assessments of Daks(or any other player) abilities and still respect the other persons opinion. I like coming here for rational discussions and others opinions but if I want a bunch of inflammatory rhetoric I can go find a political site. To those of you that think Dak is garbage, I disagree but also I respect your opinions and see a lot of the points you make....but I’m not labeling you “haters” because that would demean your position on the issue. If I have ever done that then I apologize and will not do so in the future. Likewise on other discussions and other players. Rant off

Ps..I love you guys.

How can you respect any opinion that is so far removed from reality it makes no sense? Nothing to respect at all. Saying Dak is elite is as dumb as saying Dak is average. Only clowns would analyze either to be true.

So they are either football dumb or just say dumb things to hate.

Has to be one of the two.

And its the job of those on here that understand football to correct those that spew garbage.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Some people are under the misguided perception that signing him long term will destroy the cowboys salary cap and make it impossible for them to field a competitive team.

Which is just not based in reality.

THAT theory has already been proven incorrect as Dak is on the cap for 31 million this year and our team is stacked.

 

[NotForLong]

The obsession is very simple. The trolls can no longer claim that Dak isn't good or is average. That gig is up and has been blown out of the water. So all they can focus on is the fact that he isn't worth the big money.

Its all they got left. Hanging on by a thread.

Are you claiming that Dak's performance last year has proved that he is elite and not average?

 

[doomsday9084]

I see multiple new threads everyday about the same subject matter-Dak Prescott's contract. The National media seem as obsessed as many on this board. There isn't much to debate:

-Ownership has come out and stated Dak Prescott is their franchise QB. He is under contract, team wants to sign him long-term and will not rescind the offer sheet under any circumstance.

-The likes of Goff/Wentz in his QB Class signed long-term extensions. Dak has arguable been as good if not better then the both of them. He will sign a market level contract. Many fans forget the post Aikman years at the position. It's quite comical that many have suggested they rather have Andy Dalton as the team's starting QB.

-Dak team's have accomplished the same level as did Romo, divisional rd of the playoffs. Both QB's have played on talented teams, but haven't been able to breakthrough. Perhaps having an average Head Coach has played a role in their lack of success.

First off, the big issue is that total player salary is fixed. Every dollar one player gets is less money for others. This year we have watched Quinn and Jones walk just so we could pay Dak, Zeke, Tank and Cooper.

So let's start with your examples. How well did Dallas do once Romo got his big contract? People tend to forget that the first 3 years of Dak's career had Romo's dead contract on it. Romo never won anything because the D sucked when he was here but his contract played a part in that. Will the Eagles ever win anything with Wentz making that much? Will the Rams ever sniff another deep playoff run with Goff making that much money?

At the end of the day, having your QB on a bargain contract is a huge advantage. While its possible to do well with a QB on a big contract, its really hard and you need that guy playing like a superstar. Even then, those superstar QB's tend to get beat by some hot QB on his rookie deal surrounded by a lot of talent.

Dak getting a huge contract makes it harder for Dallas to be a great team. Its that simple.

What's the alternative? Well, Andy Dalton now. Which team is better? Dalton + 2 pro bowl defensive players or Dak + 2 vet min players?

 

[USArmyVet]

The obsession is very simple. The trolls can no longer claim that Dak isn't good or is average. That gig is up and has been blown out of the water. So all they can focus on is the fact that he isn't worth the big money.

Its all they got left. Hanging on by a thread.

What has he done besides put up personal stats? What has he done to be considered a Top 5 QB to earn a huge contract? The answer: not a damn thing.

 

[Risen Star]

Is this like a serious take?

Why do you care if your team might commit more money to it's QB than any team in history in this salary cap era? I mean, who cares right?

 

[Big_D]

It’s not like this team didn’t choke in 2019 right on cue!

 

[Cowboyny]

Goff went to a Super Bowl and Wentz set up the team for their Super Bowl run so tell me how Dak and his 1-2 career playoff record is better than Goff and Wentz? He's not.

-Wentz has never won a playoff game. His durability is so bad that they had to use a premium draft pick at the position. Both Wentz and Dak had one legitimate NFL MVP type season, in which their teams earned the #1 seed in the playoffs.

-Goff couldn't even get onto the field until McVay arrived. McVay is considered one of the best offensive minds in the entire league. The Cowboys lost to them cause they were out coached, especially Marinelli. The Rams were gift wrapped a Super Bowl birth due to a blown call. By the way, it was so bad, that they had to change the rule the following year.

Hate Dak all you want. As the starting QB he has never had a losing record. This is with average coaching, a very suspect defense that cannot turnover the ball what so ever and a special teams unit that ranks of one the NFL worst.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

-Wentz has never won a playoff game. His durability is so bad that they had to use a premium draft pick at the position. Both Wentz and Dak had one legitimate NFL MVP type season, in which their teams earned the #1 seed in the playoffs.

-Goff couldn't even get onto the field until McVay arrived. McVay is considered one of the best offensive minds in the entire league. The Cowboys lost to them cause they were out coached, especially Marinelli. The Rams were gift wrapped a Super Bowl birth due to a blown call. By the way, it was so bad, that they had to change the rule the following year.

Hate Dak all you want. As the starting QB he has never had a losing record. This is with average coaching, a very suspect defense that cannot turnover the ball what so ever and a special teams unit that ranks of one the NFL worst.

 

[Cowboyny]

First off, the big issue is that total player salary is fixed. Every dollar one player gets is less money for others. This year we have watched Quinn and Jones walk just so we could pay Dak, Zeke, Tank and Cooper.

So let's start with your examples. How well did Dallas do once Romo got his big contract? People tend to forget that the first 3 years of Dak's career had Romo's dead contract on it. Romo never won anything because the D sucked when he was here but his contract played a part in that. Will the Eagles ever win anything with Wentz making that much? Will the Rams ever sniff another deep playoff run with Goff making that much money?

At the end of the day, having your QB on a bargain contract is a huge advantage. While its possible to do well with a QB on a big contract, its really hard and you need that guy playing like a superstar. Even then, those superstar QB's tend to get beat by some hot QB on his rookie deal surrounded by a lot of talent.

Dak getting a huge contract makes it harder for Dallas to be a great team. Its that simple.

What's the alternative? Well, Andy Dalton now. Which team is better? Dalton + 2 pro bowl defensive players or Dak + 2 vet min players?

-Dalton has never won a playoff game. In Cincy he had legitimate talent on both sides of the football and still came up short. This was several years ago, his days as a starter are most likely over. He was benched last season due to poor play. To think he could get the Cowboys back into the playoffs, is extremely unlikely, more likely to be a team drafting within the top 15. As for the 2 pro bowl defensive players, where are you getting them? Through fa? Free agency usually had aging veterans seeking one last payday. Players like Clowney are available for a reason, ask yourself, why two teams decided not to resign him? He has never had a 10 sack season, even playing with a JJ Watt.

-Teams can win with a high paid QB. Many high paid veterans have made successful super bowl runs. Does it make it more difficult to build a team around a high paid QB? Absolutely, but that's why teams pay top dollar on their scouting departments. You don't need all-pro players at every position to be successful. Perhaps, with a Head Coach like Garrett you do. MM took a injury riddled team that barely qualified for the playoffs and won a Super Bowl.
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[USArmyVet]

-Wentz has never won a playoff game. His durability is so bad that they had to use a premium draft pick at the position. Both Wentz and Dak had one legitimate NFL MVP type season, in which their teams earned the #1 seed in the playoffs.

-Goff couldn't even get onto the field until McVay arrived. McVay is considered one of the best offensive minds in the entire league. The Cowboys lost to them cause they were out coached, especially Marinelli. The Rams were gift wrapped a Super Bowl birth due to a blown call. By the way, it was so bad, that they had to change the rule the following year.

Hate Dak all you want. As the starting QB he has never had a losing record. This is with average coaching, a very suspect defense that cannot turnover the ball what so ever and a special teams unit that ranks of one the NFL worst.

Funny how Dak defenders always have to resort to complaining about coaching or defense or air temperature.......Dak was 1-6 last season against playoff teams and led Dallas to ZERO game winning drives.

In his 4 seasons as the starter, he has compiled a 40-24 record....of that Dak has 7 wins and 1 loss against the Commanders & Giants the last 2 seasons, two teams that have absolutely sucked and are in rebuild modes. So outside of those 2 teams, Dak has a 33-23 career record.

Of his stats, the last 2 seasons Dak has amassed the following career stats:

18 wins 14 losses

744 completions 1,122 attempts 66.3% comp. % 52 TD's 19 Int's 8,787 yards


In the last 2 seasons Dak has amassed the following stats against the Commanders & Giants:

7 wins 1 loss

183 completions 267 attempts 68.5% comp. % 22 TD's 2 Int's 2,343 yards


So, when you take away the games against the Commanders & Giants the last 2 seasons Dak has amassed the following stats and record:


11 Wins 13 Losses

561 completions 855 attempts 65.6% comp. % 30 TD's 17 Int's 6,444 yards


Sorry, but simply compiling stats against 2 crappy teams the last 2 seasons and flopping against the rest does not warrant a huge new contract.