I was just wondering if it's the older fans who see what I see in Dak

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I'm 53- almost 54 years old. I have been a fan of the Cowboys since the early 70's- when I was old enough to know about them.
I've seen the likes of Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath, Pat Haden, Danny White, Joe Montana, Brian Sipe, Dan Pastorini, Craig Morton, John Elway, Joe Theismann, Billy Kilmer, Ron Jaworski, Doug Williams, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, and others like Brett Favre on their best and worst days.
It's not that Dak can't learn. He's a great athlete.
But I don't see in him the instincts of any of the quarterbacks I just mentioned in regards to leadership skills and making a team better.
I'm just curious if it's the older generation that sees what I see?
One thing Dak does better is that he doesn't throw many interceptions, but I am not sure if that comes from the fact that he strictly follows the route tree or is just more aware.
But he doesn't seem to have "it" when it comes to leadership.
But is it the older guys who see what I see?
Just curious.
I have seen 16 different starting quarterbacks after Troy Aikman before Tony Romo. I know what we could have. But what we do have is Prescott and he is a winner. He’s definitely a top 10 quarterback and I don’t see anybody better out there at this time that we could actually sign.
 

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Matt Cassel, Brandon Weeden,. Even Andy Dalton.How could you not be happy with Prescott. We don’t have the Montana’s the Starbucks the Bradshaws the Kelly’s the Marinos. In today’s era. I’ll take Prescott. Over many of the starters. Including Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. And Mahomes I’m still not a fan yet the way he stunk up the Super Bowl in last year’s playoffs
 

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I have seen 16 different starting quarterbacks after Troy Aikman before Tony Romo. I know what we could have. But what we do have is Prescott and he is a winner. He’s definitely a top 10 quarterback and I don’t see anybody better out there at this time that we could actually sign.

What has Prescott won?

1 playoff game in 4 years?

He’s not a difference maker.. Dak is stuck in neutral and that’s fine until you ask for elite QB money.
 

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You literally just admitted you can’t wait for the guy to fail. You’re calling yourself a fan of the cowboys? Get lost. I saw earlier you posted he’s hit his ceiling? He’s going into his 5th year in the league and has gotten better every single year. But he’s hit his ceiling? I think you’ve hit your ceiling of dumb posts for the year. Good thing is only way to go now is up for you
Dak has actually gotten worse because now that there is pressure on him to win and defenses have film to look at Dak cant sit back there and play dink and dunk and run like he did back in 2016. The only think he is better at is beating bad teams. 6 of the 8 wins last year were against the worst teams in the NFL. If your a true Cowboys fan the last thing you want to see is the Cowboys get saddled with some 5 year contract to Dak for 35 mil a year. Don't pay Dak!
 

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What has Prescott won?

1 playoff game in 4 years?

He’s not a difference maker.. Dak is stuck in neutral and that’s fine until you ask for elite QB money.
It took both Brees and Manning (Peyton) 6 years to win their first playoff game, so this isn’t really the indictment you think it is.
 

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He was good the first year until they figured him out. DC's tell CB's to play the RB on ball fakes because Dak doesn't react fast enough to an open receiver so you'll have time to recover and contest the catch. He reminds me of that line from "Searching for Bobby Ficsher, don't move 'til you see it," only this isn't chess and it takes dak too long to see it.
 

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What has Prescott won?

1 playoff game in 4 years?

He’s not a difference maker.. Dak is stuck in neutral and that’s fine until you ask for elite QB money.
While I don't agree w/ the first part of your statement, due to not enough evidence to prove a point, I do agree w/ the last part. And the majority of fans agree, voting that Dak is worth 34 mil/season or less.
 

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He was good the first year until they figured him out. DC's tell CB's to play the RB on ball fakes because Dak doesn't react fast enough to an open receiver so you'll have time to recover and contest the catch. He reminds me of that line from "Searching for Bobby Ficsher, don't move 'til you see it," only this isn't chess and it takes dak too long to see it.

since Dak had 4902 passing yards last year it doesn’t seem DBs had that much time to contest throws. Strong completion % also goes against that theory.
 

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No, you saw the real Dak Prescott in each of his first three seasons, as well. The Cowboys faced weaker opponents from 2016-2018; teams in disarray and not at their best.
In 2016 he stepped into a loaded offense in a weak division, yet choked in the playoffs vs Green Bay, allowing them to build an insurmountable lead. His passes were errant and high.
In 2017, he proved he was unable to move the team if they weren't already on a roll. It was really an 8-8 season, with the final win only because the Eagles rested their starters. But you saw the real Dak when he didn't show grit and determination to make a difference in the team while Elliott was out.
2018 was better, but Prescott showed no improvement in his ability to make the Cowboys better. He played to the level of the team, rather than making them rise to a higher level.
But 2019 was the season that I knew would expose him. He finally faced a tough schedule vs teams who were not in complete disarray, and they did not let him have all day to play.
He was like a deer in the headlights, throwing the ball high and off target, making poor decisions, and throwing interceptions when he panicked under pressure.
The loss to the Eagles cemented Dak's status as average to below average.
Your posting is average to below average. Guy throws for 4900 yards and 30 plus touchdowns and he was exposed? Lol sure pal. Welcome to ignore
 

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since Dak had 4902 passing yards last year it doesn’t seem DBs had that much time to contest throws. Strong completion % also goes against that theory.
While I don't believe Dak is worth what he's reportedly asking, he took a step forward last season.
 

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Your posting is average to below average. Guy throws for 4900 yards and 30 plus touchdowns and he was exposed? Lol sure pal. Welcome to ignore
I mean, seriously. Don't get me wrong, all QB's have weaknesses that can possibly be exploited, but Dak most obviously took a step forward last season. And that's w/o even considering the yards.
 

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While I don't believe Dak is worth what he's reportedly asking, he took a step forward last season.
I don’t necessarily think stats tell us the whole story, but they do tell us he wasn’t so slow to make decisions that he had trouble completing passes the DUO CORE indicated.

As for the Money, I get that it’s a hell of a lot, and it’s had to fathomed players being worth that much, but the teams obviously know the full financial picture in a way fans can’t, so if teams are willing to pay it, I won’t argue the players aren’t worth it. Of course, we don’t truly know the details of what is being asked and offered, but if Dak’s ask is something near or a little above Wentz’s 4 year extension, that doesn’t seem unreasonable.
 

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I don’t necessarily think stats tell us the whole story, but they do tell us he wasn’t so slow to make decisions that he had trouble completing passes the DUO CORE indicated.

As for the Money, I get that it’s a hell of a lot, and it’s had to fathomed players being worth that much, but the teams obviously know the full financial picture in a way fans can’t, so if teams are willing to pay it, I won’t argue the players aren’t worth it. Of course, we don’t truly know the details of what is being asked and offered, but if Dak’s ask is something near or a little above Wentz’s 4 year extension, that doesn’t seem unreasonable.
I will. Overpaying any position leads to mediocrity, and there are still questions about Dak. I do believe he is good enough, but there's a good chance he isn't good enough if we overpay him. SEA is finding that out w/ Wilson.
 

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Dak is not on the same talent level as a young Brees and Manning.
I didn’t say he was. I said judging players players based winning playoff games early in their careers is flawed. What I posted proved that.
 

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I will. Overpaying any position leads to mediocrity, and there are still questions about Dak. I do believe he is good enough, but there's a good chance he isn't good enough if we overpay him. SEA is finding that out w/ Wilson.
Since we don’t know the full economics, and since other teams set the precedent of paying sky rocketing QB prices, how can we say it is overpaying? This is a business decision teams have to make, and they judge what’s overpaying, and what fits into their economic analysis.

im sure there are people that think I’m overpaid, Or that doctors, lawyers, engineers or people in any profession are overpaid, but if the company determines it is getting the value it needs in return for the pay, then it isn’t overpaying.
 

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Being old has nothing to do with the way I feel about Dak. The issue I have with the young man is he's hasn't done a dam thing and he thinks he should be at the top of the food chain???????? I don't think so, if anything he should dump whoever is representing him, go into JJ's office and tell the old man that he's ready to work harder than he's ever worked in his life, sign something that has some perks/rewards they both can agree on and get ready for a season that doesn't end with the regular season.
 
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