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QuincyCarterEra

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teams put their whole defense on Leveon.

Seems like you just like to pull stuff out of you're you know what, but never any substance. Simply your incorrect opinions stated over and over again.

Leveon only saw stacked boxes on 17% of his snaps
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing
Why the hell would defenses focus on a guy who averages 3.2 yards per carry, the lowest in the league with RBs over 150 carries?

This is getting boring. Just know that all your opinions regarding runningbacks are outdated and wrong and have been repeatedly disproven so you need to read and adapt!
 

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Seems like you just like to pull stuff out of you're you know what, but never any substance. Simply your incorrect opinions stated over and over again.

Leveon only saw stacked boxes on 17% of his snaps
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing
Why the hell would defenses focus on a guy who averages 3.2 yards per carry, the lowest in the league with RBs over 150 carries?

This is getting boring. Just know that all your opinions regarding runningbacks are outdated and wrong and have been repeatedly disproven so you need to read and adapt!
just because the box isnt stacked doesnt mean they arent focused on Bell. You seem so excited running to your analytics. lol
 

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Seems like you just like to pull stuff out of you're you know what, but never any substance. Simply your incorrect opinions stated over and over again.

Leveon only saw stacked boxes on 17% of his snaps
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing
Why the hell would defenses focus on a guy who averages 3.2 yards per carry, the lowest in the league with RBs over 150 carries?

This is getting boring. Just know that all your opinions regarding runningbacks are outdated and wrong and have been repeatedly disproven so you need to read and adapt!
I’m tempted to hit “showed ignored content” but I’m sure there’s a valid reason I have whoever you’re responding to on ignore.
 

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So Zeke is top 5 hence him being elite. no?


I don’t care to be honest.

Give me a top 12- 20 back behind a good line with 2 other good young backs and let’s roll.

Any back that wants big money can sign somewhere else. Spend the money in the online,
 

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Backed by data, several times, but as non objective Cowboys fans we can look past that. Always remember that volume equates talent.
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Exactly, that’s why DeMarco Murray was a better RB than Zeke. He smoked him in total yards AND carries!
 
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Peyton Manning passed for all of those yards, because he threw it so often.

Michael Jordan scored all of those points, because he shot it so often.

I don't get the volume stance some are taking on Zeke.

Peyton isn't elite because of his volume? Jordan isn't elite because of his volume? Really?

That's kind of a head scratcher to me. Most teams want the ball in the hands of the guy they know can produce, Right? So what's wrong with Zeke's volume?
 

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Peyton Manning passed for all of those yards, because he threw it so often.

Michael Jordan scored all of those points, because he shot it so often.

I don't get the volume stance some are taking on Zeke.

Peyton isn't elite because of his volume? Jordan isn't elite because of his volume? Really?

That's kind of a head scratcher to me. Most teams want the ball in the hands of the guy they know can produce, Right? So what's wrong with Zeke's volume?
Nothing is wrong with it but it doesn’t make him the best. Trying to compare a basketball player and a Quarterback to a RB aren’t even close.

Do you truly think that other top 10-15 RB’s in the league wouldn’t have had the same success under the same circumstances (O line and number of carries)? A running back like Barkley, with his speed and elusiveness, would make Zeke look pedestrian behind this O line if he had the same amount of room to run.

He also certainly wasn’t worth the #4 overall pick or contract they gave him and Zeke’s production would be much more average without this O line because he doesn’t have the skills the other RB’s do to make those big plays. At least not since ‘16 he hasn’t.
 

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Peyton Manning passed for all of those yards, because he threw it so often.

Michael Jordan scored all of those points, because he shot it so often.

I don't get the volume stance some are taking on Zeke.

Peyton isn't elite because of his volume? Jordan isn't elite because of his volume? Really?

That's kind of a head scratcher to me. Most teams want the ball in the hands of the guy they know can produce, Right? So what's wrong with Zeke's volume?

You're misunderstanding. Nobody is claiming volume makes you not elite, the claim is that volume doesn't make you elite.

Just because you've rushed many many times doesn't mean that you are elite at that skill. Like what we saw in 2017-2019.

Manning and Jordan had volume and were elite. This isn't the case for Zeke.
 

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What these numbers say, we already knew.

Elliott is a work horse, a clydesdale. I'll take it.

You need a tough running game to win in the 4th quarter.
Yet he falls consistently short in closing out games as well, another Zeke myth exposed!

Scroll on down to “Running to close out a game”. Not to mention, work horses don’t tap out in crucial 3rd down situations, zeke is more like a show pony.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ezekiel-elliott-is-not-worth-the-money-he-wants/
 
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what? How does it not? No problem giving him money. Yet throw all of these stats and praise and they still have to figure out what Dak is worth. ????

A couple guys here do not like being called on not using consistent logic. They act like you're changing the subject or "baiting/trolling".
 

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Pass catcher— that’s my biggest disappointment with him. I wasn’t all up in his college film so I just took people’s word for it that he was a good receiver coming out of Ohio St.

But he’s been almost useless running routes in the NFL.


If you look at Dak and zeke's "highlights".....you can see he's been primarily used as "outlet". That isn't HIS fault. And he's been pretty damn good with it too....catching the awkward Dak-about-to-get-sacked wobbly pass. He gets yards and first downs. A few times he streaked down the sideline for very respectable grabs for a BIG RB.

I think you should give him another year before you pass permanent judgement on it.

One other thing....I am asking because I don;t know....do primary RB run a lot to receiver routes? I've always thought those routes were usually run by change of pass or specialty back. Thanks!
 

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Lmao he’s number 4 and fans, that hate players that get paid, are ripping him like he’s the worst in the league.
 
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