Rank Starting QBs and what is Dak

[Whirlwin]

Why are you asking because it sounds a little ridiculous. Mahommes played a good super bowl. His oline is trash compared to ours, but when he was able to buy time to make the throws he wore the defense out in the 2nd half. That defense was all over him and he also looked nervous in the 1st half. But mahommes and his defense won that game in the 2nd half.

I never said mahommes is the best, but as soon as Brees is retired it's a toss up between him and rodgers.

Put Dak on the chiefs in that super bowl and the 49ers probably break the sack record. Mahommes on an average team would make them contend for a playoff spot.

Maybe I'm off base with your questions because I just find it hard to believe some don't think he's special if that's what you're insinuating.

Our offense of line is a disaster compared to theirs. You didn’t see him over throwing the football under throwing the football actually aiming for football. It was the worst quarterback play I’ve ever seen in a Super Bowl next to Peyton Manning in Denver. Put my homes in Dallas and he looks worse than Prescott did. That’s speculation also

 

[Whirlwin]

What the Patriots did to Mahomes?- have you looked at what the Patriots did to Dak?

Granted the weather but its not even close!

We don’t have half the team the Chiefs have plus we had Jason Garrett,You can’t compare it. The patriots destroyed him with middle pressure. Same thing the 49ers did. I don’t know why everybody thinks he’s great. He’s a good quarterback he’s not goat

 

[DFWJC]

Our offense of line is a disaster compared to theirs. You didn’t see him over throwing the football under throwing the football actually aiming for football. It was the worst quarterback play I’ve ever seen in a Super Bowl next to Peyton Manning in Denver. Put my homes in Dallas and he looks worse than Prescott did. That’s speculation also

Out line was excellent last year, Whirlwin.

Football Outsiders
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019

Offensive Line Rankings in 2019

Pass Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 4th

Run Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 28th

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PFF Offensive Line Rankings 2019
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season

Dallas 4th
Kansas City 16th

 

[locked&loaded]

This thread is insane! Dak is a top 10 qb. This is objectively true.

Mahomes is currently the best qb in league. This is objectively true.

I live in Wisconsin surrounded by packers fans. First txt i got after superbowl was, "if it wasn't official already, it is now. mahomes is best qb in the league."

Some of you really have an agenda...its weird.

 

[Starforever]

All I know is there are at least 13-14 QBs id rather have on this team than Dak


Once you factor in $$$, that goes up to almost 20

Please name these QB masters.

 

[Starforever]

1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Aaron Rogers
3. Russell Wilson
4. Lamar Jackson
5. Drew Brees
6. DeShawn Watson
7. Matt Ryan
8. Tom Brady
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Carson Wentz
11. Dak Prescott
12. Josh Allen
13. Matthew Stafford
14. Philip Rivers
15. Kirk Cousins
16. Jared Goff
17. Jimmy Garapolo
18. Ryan Tanehil
19. Derek Carr
20. Kyler Murray
21. Teddy Bridgewater
22. Baker Mayfield
23. Sam Darnold
24. Drew Lock
25. Minshew
26. Daniel Jones
27. Dwayne Hopkins
28. Mitch Trubisky

TBD
Joe Burrow
Tyrod Taylor/Herbert
Tua
Patriots starter

This was not easy to do.

I have Dak as 11.

But I'd take him today over Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, and Wentz when building a franchise.

Just because of their age and Wentz's health issues.

Curious to see other lists....especially the "Dak haters!"

According to your list, I would have him at number 5 or 6.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Please name these QB masters.

The 13 Id rather regardless of $$:

Mahomes
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Big Ben
Ryan
Jackson
Watson
Wilson
Wentz
Burrow
Murray
Stafford


The other 7 when you factor in $$:
Darnold
Dalton
Newton
Tua
Minshew
Allen
Jimmy G

 

[Starforever]

The 13 Id rather regardless of $$:

Mahomes
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Big Ben
Ryan
Jackson
Watson
Wilson
Wentz
Burrow
Murray
Stafford


The other 7 when you factor in $$:
Darnold
Dalton
Newton
Tua
Minshew
Allen
Jimmy G

It's so weird, I didn't even laugh at this.

 

[WillieBeamen]

It's so weird, I didn't even laugh at this.

Its so weird that I cant care any less about what you have to say

 

[Starforever]

Its so weird that I cant care any less about what you have to say

It is obvious that you don't know the value of the QB position.

 

[ondaedg]

Its so weird that I cant care any less about what you have to say

Every single NFL GM would look at your list and eyeroll. The next day there would be a knock at your door by a guy handing you a cup to pee in.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Every single NFL GM would look at your list and eyeroll. The next day there would be a knock at your door by a guy handing you a cup to pee in.

Oh ok

 

[WillieBeamen]

It is obvious that you don't know the value of the QB position.

Yea whatever

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Is take over wentz, Brady and Ben which puts him at 8th.

I agree with this.

 

[aikemirv]

We don’t have half the team the Chiefs have plus we had Jason Garrett,You can’t compare it. The patriots destroyed him with middle pressure. Same thing the 49ers did. I don’t know why everybody thinks he’s great. He’s a good quarterback he’s not goat

I am so confused, Garrett was terrible but we were first in offensive yards per game - more yards than the Chiefs great team.

Destroyed him - he was 26-40 283 yards a TD and a sack and they (Chiefs) WON the game! I wish the Patriots would have destroyed Dak like that!

 

[glimmerman]

Dak is the best... (Glim runs out of the room)

 

[Whirlwin]

I am so confused, Garrett was terrible but we were first in offensive yards per game - more yards than the Chiefs great team.

Destroyed him - he was 26-40 283 yards a TD and a sack and they (Chiefs) WON the game! I wish the Patriots would have destroyed Dak like that!

The Chiefs did not win the game I’m talking about. I believe I’m talking about the AFC championship game.Two seasons ago. My point was a middle defense and Mahomes doesn’t know what he’s doing. This is my problem I grew up with real football that Candy Candy *** **** . Mahomes never would’ve survived the 70s.

 

[Whirlwin]

Out line was excellent last year, Whirlwin.

Football Outsiders
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019

Offensive Line Rankings in 2019

Pass Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 4th

Run Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 28th

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PFF Offensive Line Rankings 2019
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season

Dallas 4th
Kansas City 16th

Our offense of line has been in turmoil. Freddie being out the left tackle Smith hurt. We needed a left guard. That’s what happened the last three years. Last year might’ve been different but the defense went sour. We haven’t had a solid team since Prescotts rookie season. Maybe that’s what I was trying to say. I was matching Prescott’s career to Mahomes career . Prescott second season was a disaster with Elliot. It’s third season we lost our starting center wide receiver and tight end. And last year Garrett lost the team

 

[InTheZone]

Out line was excellent last year, Whirlwin.

Football Outsiders
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019

Offensive Line Rankings in 2019

Pass Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 4th

Run Blocking
Dallas 2nd
Kansas City 28th

-----------------------------------------------------------------

PFF Offensive Line Rankings 2019
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season

Dallas 4th
Kansas City 16th

if we can't agree 1 is 1 and 2 is 2 then arguments like this are just wasted time.It was clear as day the chiefs oline was getting manhandled in the 1st half and Mahomes was making plays when the pressure turned up.

 

[Whirlwin]

It's so weird, I didn't even laugh at this.

This is as bad as me not liking Mahomes