Cowboys Cap Space for 2021

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Looking for some clarity on roughly how much we have available to spend in 2021.

I'm new to NFL finances, but cannot accept some posts that say that "we dont know"....every business has an an idea.

Using OVER THE CAP, this is what I think we've got (will have):

1) 2020 - we've under spent by $11.25m which can be carried over to 2021.

2) The CAP is calculated each March, based on 48% of certain NFL revenues.

3) Before the virus hit, OVER THE CAP calculated that there would be an increase of $17m in 2021 to $215m

4) Using these pre virus calculations, we only have $36m (plus whatever's carried over of the 2020 $11m).

5) Whilst some positions can possibly be filled in the draft, we are lacking:
- 2 Safeties
- 3 LB's (hoping Gifford develops)
- 2 CB's
-1 Center
- 2 DE's
-2 QB's

All out of the $47m........is that basically correct?

I appreciate the following but is it wishful thinking?
- Extend but aging contracts (Martin / Smith) until they're in the late 30,s
- Restructure bad contracts (guaranteeing money to DLaw/Zeke and Coops)
- Release bad contracts - cant happen in 2021 .... the cheapest would be Zeke (Dead Money = $13m)
- Deferred contracts to FA's - BUT ..... limited CAP Space (with increases) 2022 = $54m and 2023 = $84m (last in the NFL)


 

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Looking for some clarity on roughly how much we have available to spend in 2021.

I'm new to NFL finances, but cannot accept some posts that say that "we dont know"....every business has an an idea.

Using OVER THE CAP, this is what I think we've got (will have):

1) 2020 - we've under spent by $11.25m which can be carried over to 2021.

2) The CAP is calculated each March, based on 48% of certain NFL revenues.

3) Before the virus hit, OVER THE CAP calculated that there would be an increase of $17m in 2021 to $215m

4) Using these pre virus calculations, we only have $36m (plus whatever's carried over of the 2020 $11m).

5) Whilst some positions can possibly be filled in the draft, we are lacking:
- 2 Safeties
- 3 LB's (hoping Gifford develops)
- 2 CB's
-1 Center
- 2 DE's
-2 QB's

All out of the $47m........is that basically correct?

I appreciate the following but is it wishful thinking?
- Extend but aging contracts (Martin / Smith) until they're in the late 30,s
- Restructure bad contracts (guaranteeing money to DLaw/Zeke and Coops)
- Release bad contracts - cant happen in 2021 .... the cheapest would be Zeke (Dead Money = $13m)
- Deferred contracts to FA's - BUT ..... limited CAP Space (with increases) 2022 = $54m and 2023 = $84m (last in the NFL)

You seem very confused.
 

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How on earth can you figure out what the salary cap is for next year when they don't even know if they'll have a season. And if they do it will more than likely take a hit to their concessions?

Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER that comes out with the .......you dont know what the salary Cap will be .

If you are correct about the concessions then we wont have the money to sign Dak.
 

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Looking for some clarity on roughly how much we have available to spend in 2021.

I'm new to NFL finances, but cannot accept some posts that say that "we dont know"....every business has an an idea.

Using OVER THE CAP, this is what I think we've got (will have):

1) 2020 - we've under spent by $11.25m which can be carried over to 2021.

2) The CAP is calculated each March, based on 48% of certain NFL revenues.

3) Before the virus hit, OVER THE CAP calculated that there would be an increase of $17m in 2021 to $215m

4) Using these pre virus calculations, we only have $36m (plus whatever's carried over of the 2020 $11m).

5) Whilst some positions can possibly be filled in the draft, we are lacking:
- 2 Safeties
- 3 LB's (hoping Gifford develops)
- 2 CB's
-1 Center
- 2 DE's
-2 QB's

All out of the $47m........is that basically correct?

I appreciate the following but is it wishful thinking?
- Extend but aging contracts (Martin / Smith) until they're in the late 30,s
- Restructure bad contracts (guaranteeing money to DLaw/Zeke and Coops)
- Release bad contracts - cant happen in 2021 .... the cheapest would be Zeke (Dead Money = $13m)
- Deferred contracts to FA's - BUT ..... limited CAP Space (with increases) 2022 = $54m and 2023 = $84m (last in the NFL)
Looks like fillable holes with the amount of cap space available and the draft. I count ~4-6 starters on defense and potentially 2 starters on offense. We've attempted to cover ourselves with the CB draftees. Safeties aren't expensive, and we can get serviceable ones in the draft. My main concern is defensive end.
 
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Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER that comes out with the .......you dont know what the salary Cap will be .

If you are correct about the concessions then we wont have the money to sign Dak.
I was asking a question. How can you know what the salary cap will be before we see how the league is effected by Covid 19......

And you will have money to sign Dak I don't know what that comment was about lol.

We just don't know....like if nobody is at the stadiums doesn't that mean more people will be watching? It won't be much original programming on and people will be craving sports.....seems like TV numbers should go up but will that make up for concessions? Just too early to tell.
 

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The Cap will probably remain about flat from 2020 to 2021.
The NFL says that they will allow teams to borrow from future cap increases so there won't be major FA impacts.

So you can take away the 17 mil increase (or maybe 15 of it).
But after that 2021, should be stable.

As for currently having 11 mil. We almost always sign some FAs very late, so it may drop some.
Not sure if that includes all of the rookie deals?
 

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Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER that comes out with the .......you dont know what the salary Cap will be .

If you are correct about the concessions then we wont have the money to sign Dak.
Do you know what players will still be on the team, or if Dak signs a deal how it will be structured to fit the cap, or if any other contracts will be restructured?
 

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Looking for some clarity on roughly how much we have available to spend in 2021.

I'm new to NFL finances, but cannot accept some posts that say that "we dont know"....every business has an an idea.

Using OVER THE CAP, this is what I think we've got (will have):

1) 2020 - we've under spent by $11.25m which can be carried over to 2021.

2) The CAP is calculated each March, based on 48% of certain NFL revenues.

3) Before the virus hit, OVER THE CAP calculated that there would be an increase of $17m in 2021 to $215m

4) Using these pre virus calculations, we only have $36m (plus whatever's carried over of the 2020 $11m).

5) Whilst some positions can possibly be filled in the draft, we are lacking:
- 2 Safeties
- 3 LB's (hoping Gifford develops)
- 2 CB's
-1 Center
- 2 DE's
-2 QB's

All out of the $47m........is that basically correct?

I appreciate the following but is it wishful thinking?
- Extend but aging contracts (Martin / Smith) until they're in the late 30,s
- Restructure bad contracts (guaranteeing money to DLaw/Zeke and Coops)
- Release bad contracts - cant happen in 2021 .... the cheapest would be Zeke (Dead Money = $13m)
- Deferred contracts to FA's - BUT ..... limited CAP Space (with increases) 2022 = $54m and 2023 = $84m (last in the NFL)


Would I be correct in saying that your estimated cap space does not include whatever Dak’s contract or Franchise Tag will Be.
 

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Looks like fillable holes with the amount of cap space available and the draft.
I count ~4-6 starters on defense and potentially 1 starter on offense.

So we can fill those spaces with $10m ...... ?????
So we can fill those spaces with decent FA's when we cant compete with other teams financially.

[/QUOTE]We've attempted to cover ourselves with the CB draftees. [/QUOTE]

Ive already factored in Diggs....still need two more.

[/QUOTE]Safeties aren't expensive, and we can get serviceable ones in the draft.[/QUOTE]

Spent $6m this year on them

[/QUOTE]My main concern is defensive end.[/QUOTE]

You've already over spent and you'll need two and at least two Linebackers and a Center.

So youve got us drafting a CB, a Safety and possibly a DE .....oh and we'll need to cover ourselves with a QB, in case Dak doesnt sign.

Go look at our history of how many players make it from draft.
 

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Do you know what players will still be on the team, or if Dak signs a deal how it will be structured to fit the cap, or if any other contracts will be restructured?

Yes, the positions we'll need are above and the issues of restructuring are highlighted.

As a WELL-KNOWN MEMBER you should be able to come back with something specific, rather than the general responses you give.
 

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The Cap will probably remain about flat from 2020 to 2021.
The NFL says that they will allow teams to borrow from future cap increases so there won't be major FA impacts.

So you can take away the 17 mil increase (or maybe 15 of it).
But after that 2021, should be stable.

As for currently having 11 mil. We almost always sign some FAs very late, so it may drop some.
Not sure if that includes all of the rookie deals?

Cheers,

At last someone's responded with specifics.

So it's likely that we're not going to have $47m left in 2021.....which further puts in jeopardy the Dak second Tag?
 

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So which part's incorrect or confused?

Your list of things we are lacking is all over the place. Lets just take one example. 3 LBers missing?

2 QB's? You are way off.

Only big needs I see for Cowboys next year is the safety position and then we need to see how the DE position shakes out. Most of that can be addressed in the draft or minor FA stuff. If Dak signs long term we have tons of options. AS it stands right now we have plenty of money. I see nothing to worry about.
 

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Yes, the positions we'll need are above and the issues of restructuring are highlighted.

As a WELL-KNOWN MEMBER you should be able to come back with something specific, rather than the general responses you give.
It has nothing to do with being a WELL KNOWN MEMEBER, and your attempt at sarcasm about that is nonsensical.

It has to do with common sense and the fact there is no way to know all moves the team will be making the next several years, or exactly how all contracts will be structured, so you cannot nail down things the way you claim. You claim specific details can be determined based on info we do not yet know.

I will concede you can probably come close for 2021 - just a year away. But you were making claims though 2023 earlier, and too much can happen over that time.
 

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Your list of things we are lacking is all over the place. Lets just take one example. 3 LBers missing?

2 QB's? You are way off.

Only big needs I see for Cowboys next year is the safety position and then we need to see how the DE position shakes out. Most of that can be addressed in the draft or minor FA stuff. If Dak signs long term we have tons of options. AS it stands right now we have plenty of money. I see nothing to worry about.

3 LB's = Replace Lee, Thomas and March
2 QB's = DAK's money and replace Dalton
DE's = arent shaking out at all - Gregory, Smith (wont be with us for $2m) and Crawford wont be resigned.
 

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It has nothing to do with being a WELL KNOWN MEMEBER, and your attempt at sarcasm about that is nonsensical.

It has to do with common sense and the fact there is no way to know all moves the team will be making the next several years, or exactly how all contracts will be structured, so you cannot nail down things the way you claim. You claim specific details can be determined based on info we do not yet know.

I will concede you can probably come close for 2021 - just a year away. But you were making claims though 2023 earlier, and too much can happen over that time.



OK, I mention 2023 because......

As we know Dak is willing to rely on his ability and that he wants to be a FA as close to 2024 as possible.

So why will he accept any contract for less than 3 years for less than $123.34 (3 franchise tags? He's willing to play on the Cap until JJ gives him what he wants.
 

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OK, I mention 2023 because......

As we know Dak is willing to rely on his ability and that he wants to be a FA as close to 2024 as possible.

So why will he accept any contract for less than 3 years for less than $123.34 (3 franchise tags? He's willing to play on the Cap until JJ gives him what he wants.

Where did the idea of a contract for less than 3 years come from? How do we know how Dak's contract would be structured - for example, it could be structured to have a bigger cap hit in 2020 and less in subsequent years - or how do we know he wouldn't restructure along the way to space out the cap hit over several more years? And, still a lot of other things could happen before 2023.
 

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3 LB's = Replace Lee, Thomas and March
2 QB's = DAK's money and replace Dalton
DE's = arent shaking out at all - Gregory, Smith (wont be with us for $2m) and Crawford wont be resigned.

So you are talking about replace backup linebackers? Who cares? Young guys and cheap veterans. Are you really worrying about it?

Replacing Dalton is about the only thing we may need to do. Maybe he resigns.

Gregory could be the answer or Aldon could be the answer. Not sure what is to panic about. If neither work out then we use a high pick or sign one in FA.
 
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