Jerry/Stephen royally screwed up again

[Typhus]

@Rockport, hope you like egg because its all over your face.

 

[eastsideboy]

How many coaches in the league could go through a season with the top-ranked offense a top 10 ranked defense and go 8-8? Only one.

Everyone casually forgets that at season's end Jason Garrett was fired implicating him as the reason. The reason MM is here is it not?.

So your putting it all on the coach ooooook that's convenient.

 

[FVSTONE]

Hard for me (or anyone really) to decipher how much of that was on legitimately awful coaching and a defense that couldn't make meaningful stops in critical situations, and how much was Dak. I worry about his performance against winnig teams and his accuracy, but I also feel he had some serious handicaps.

Also, the people who evalauted Garrett all these years are the same ones making the calls with Dak's contract. Hard to believe they were this awful at assessing Garrett but are suddenly now brilliant evlautors of Dak.

I believe JJ was smart to stand his ground. This organization was attempting to make Dak a top 5 deal, not bad for a YOUNG QB who is still learning and really hasn't done that much in the last couple of years. Just because the Rams, Eagles and Minnesota over paid their QBs doesn't mean Dallas had to. One more thing by all reports had Dak signed JJ's deal he would of been up in Russel Wilson $$$$$ and it's hard for me to put Dak in the same sentence with Wilson. Just my opinion...........

 

[FVSTONE]

Didn't Dak beat the Eagles by almost 30 points?

Didn't Dak crap down his leg when we met the AAA Eagles the second time around last year.... I believe the Boy's were double digit favorites that second game and it was that game that put us out of the playoffs. It was a game that EVERYONE except the Eagles were picking us to win and you know who ended up being right.

 

[eastsideboy]

He is and has been elite and will cost even more next year when he proves it yet again.

We keep hearing this year after year. Dak fan=broken record btw what did he prove? That he can go 8-8 woooooow but i guess thats elite in your book.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If that happens then I would have to stay in a dark room for a few years.


Prescott has not progressed after his very impressive rookie season as highly as some predicted. It was the only year he really made the Pro Bowl without being a back up entry like Trubisky and 2016 was the only year he has come close to being an All Pro.

I don't think he has regressed he just hasn't really gone on to another level and good defensive teams have successfully schemed against him.

No point in having a conversation. Your opinion is so far off from reality. If you cant see Dak's progression then its not my problem. Handful of trolls that will agree with you. Im sure they will discuss it with you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Didn't Dak crap down his leg when we met the AAA Eagles the second time around last year.... I believe the Boy's were double digit favorites that second game and it was that game that put us out of the playoffs. It was a game that EVERYONE except the Eagles were picking us to win and you know who ended up being right.

So which game holds more weight...when both teams were more healthy and the Eagles got drilled b almost 30 or the one they lost by 8 when Dak had a bad throwing hand and shoulder? We will go with which everyone you think.

 

[12+88=7]

@Rockport, hope you like egg because its all over your face.

He's not the only one.

Many of the Prescott supporters have been proven wrong. The reason is they have so much emotional capital invested that they don't see the whole picture. Their tunnel vision doesn't let them see any other options. It's always Prescott or bust.

 

[Big D]

So your putting it all on the coach ooooook that's convenient.

Yes. If it were up to me Garrett would have never been hired in the first place. Are you going to tell me that the team's performance does not fall on the head coach? If not, why did Jerry fire Garrett and offer Dak a hundred million dollars and/or a franchise tag?

 

[eastsideboy]

Yes. If it were up to me Garrett would have never been hired in the first place. Are you going to tell me that the team's performance does not fall on the head coach? If not, why did Jerry fire Garrett and offer Dak a hundred million dollars and/or a franchise tag?

I guess we'll all find out the truth now won't weand maybe that's the point.

 

[charron]

He is and has been elite and will cost even more next year when he proves it yet again.

That's your opinion regarding him being elite. Not everyone shares it including the team.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This is the same organization that........tried to draft Johnny Manziel over Zack Martin...

Exactly how did they try to draft JF? If they tried, they would have done it.

 

[Rockport]

That's your opinion regarding him being elite. Not everyone shares it including the team.

They do share that because they offered him a 5 year deal at 33mil per year who are you trying to kid.

 

[John813]

Exactly how did they try to draft JF? If they tried, they would have done it.

Not to mention only one person supposedly wanted JFF out of the FO/voices in the room. 1.

So, bit of a stretch to say this FO valued Manziel. It was just Jerry Jones.

And they were interested in Lynch, but at a certain price to acquire the draft pick to take him. When the Broncos upped their ante, the braintrust didn't proceed to match it.

 

[Blitzen]

34 mill a year for 5 years is pretty damn confident in him.

Guaranteed money is where the vote of confidence is spotted. Sounds like the guaranteed money was too low in relation to number of years of deal. We don't really know anything besides they could not strike a mutually agreed upon deal. When a team and is sure, they finalize a deal or at least keep churning negotiations. From the sound of things, everyone knew a long time ago how this would end. Btw, the last times a starting QB played on the tag (Brees and Cousins), they eventually left their current team.

 

[doomsday9084]

I thought about making a separate thread for this but it works here.

If the Cowboys offered 34.5m per year then they would have moved up a little to get a deal done. I have no doubt that if Dak had come back and said "$36m per year and you have a deal." this would be over.

Given that, just how much did Dak want? If $34.5m per year was so far off that it didn't start a conversation . . . ***?!?!

I really don't see how Jerry can be faulted on this. He made an opening offer that was MORE than fair. Any further offer would have been desperation and only resetting the negotiation for next year higher with no hope of getting a deal done.

IMO, you really can't tag Dak again. That is his agent's end goal. Get two tags and then sign a massive deal as an unrestricted free agent like Cousins. If you look at the cold hard numbers, that's how you maximize your career earnings. Dallas can't be suckered into playing this game.

 

[Doomsday101]

Guaranteed money is where the vote of confidence is spotted. Sounds like the guaranteed money was too low in relation to number of years of deal. We don't really know anything besides they could not strike a mutually agreed upon deal. When a team and is sure, they finalize a deal or at least keep churning negotiations. From the sound of things, everyone knew a long time ago how this would end. Btw, the last times a starting QB played on the tag (Brees and Cousins), they eventually left their current team.

Dallas last offer was 110 mill Guaranteed money with 50 mill signing bonus. That was better than Wilson got and who is the 2nd highest paid behind Mahomes. If Dallas did not believe in Dak they sure as hell would not have offered that kind of money. You don't pay this type of cash to a player you don't think is capable of getting it done.

 

[Section446]

Hopefully when he stays on the team you will follow someone else to somewhere else.

Did you get your little feelings hurt when it was apparent that you were wrong about how the team feels about Dak?

 

[Doomsday101]

One thing I can see for sure, no matter how this ended up people would be claiming Jerry screwed it up. Had Jerry paid out exactly what Dak wanted some would claim Jerry screwed it up, overpaying Dak. Yet Dallas makes a more than fair offer which would have made Dak 2nd highest paid but Jerry screw it up because Dak turned down the offer. Damn Jerry you can't win at this sight, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't

 

[CATCH17]

One thing I can see for sure, no matter how this ended up people would be claiming Jerry screwed it up. Had Jerry paid out exactly what Dak wanted some would claim Jerry screwed it up, overpaying Dak. Yet Dallas makes a more than fair offer which would have made Dak 2nd highest paid but Jerry screw it up because Dak turned down the offer. Damn Jerry you can't win at this sight, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't

Jerry did well in the end.

Dak doesn’t deserve the money he wants and will hurt the team with that amount.

Now he gets another year to show how slightly above average he is.