Wasn’t Brady worth it at 22-25 mil

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They did.....but Dalton played 13 games that year and got hurt against the Steelers. But I guess we could give him credit for games he didn’t play in........:eek:
I’m pretty sure after going 10-3, he wouldn’t have done worse than AJ McCarron
 

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I’m pretty sure after going 10-3, he wouldn’t have done worse than AJ McCarron

Impossible to know since it didn't happen. But what did happen is that he sucked when pressure stared him in the face and in that season they only beat teams with losing records......
 

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Whuh huh? Jimmy Johnson went from 1 win in year 1 to Super Bowl Champ in year 4. Belichick went from 6 wins to 12 wins (I’m including the playoff victory). That’s not even remotely a Jimmy Johnson pace.
Keeping a team focused is a huge part of an HC’s job. If the team fell apart, he may not deserve all the blame but he certainly deserves some.

Akin to JJs pace... the point is, he was improving every year and in that era, it took time, because of the way FA and the draft worked.

If the HC and coaching staff know they are getting fired and the Owner is vague and doesn’t let you know what is going to happen, it’s a completely different ball game...
 

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His record is abysmal against good teams . When the running game struggles , he folds . I like the cowboys and don’t see Dak as a QB taking the team to the SB. You seem to love his mediocrity and that is fine .
He has one more primetime games than any other quarterback. You have to understand what 8/he really means. Which I don’t think you do. Teams go to the Super Bowl and don’t even make the playoffs the following season. To be as good as we have been for so long it’s actually a great accomplishment. Because we never had those top draft picks. I’ve been saying this for years and finally the media is catching up with me. Agreeing. So maybe it’s not me understanding , And it’s more like you just not giving credit where it’s actually due
 

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Did philly have a winning record? How about the Rams? Like I said you stupid Dak haters keep using 1 win against winning teams last year and it's incorrect. You want to hate Dak, at least get the damn information correct.
I keep saying that. I don’t care if they don’t like Prescott just stop making up stupid excuses. Because the truth is he’s a winner. He’s never had a losing record
 

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1-6 against winning teams is accurate , check the record . Plus losses the jets and bears !, why do you want to forget last season ? The season before that was also terrible and Jerry had to trade to get Dak more weapons after the Tennesse debacle at home . The. Dak couldn’t engineer 1 point against the colts etc etc .
Stop with the excuses ...
Brady had much much less to work with , and still made the playoffs .
You seem to like just blaming Prescott. His rookie season was remarkable. Didn’t you forget the turmoil. No Elliot. And he still one games. Then you forget he lost his starting center wide receiver and tight end all in the same season. Did you forget how many teams he kept from having a winning record. You only see what you want to see obviously
 

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Akin to JJs pace... the point is, he was improving every year and in that era, it took time, because of the way FA and the draft worked.

If the HC and coaching staff know they are getting fired and the Owner is vague and doesn’t let you know what is going to happen, it’s a completely different ball game...
Excuse making. Fact is he is below .500 with 1 playoff victory in 7+ years without Brady.
 

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Excuse making. Fact is he is below .500 with 1 playoff victory in 7+ years without Brady.
I think everybody’s wrong on the Debate between Brady and coach The real winner is the organization the owner. He can’t micromanage and that’s where the Cowboys fail is having Sherry
 

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Excuse making. Fact is he is below .500 with 1 playoff victory in 7+ years without Brady.

No, it’s really not. These are called valid reasons... He was also 11-5 with Cassell as a starter and 3-1 when Brady went down a couples years back.
 

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Did philly have a winning record? How about the Rams? Like I said you stupid Dak haters keep using 1 win against winning teams last year and it's incorrect. You want to hate Dak, at least get the damn information correct.
1-6 against playoff teams . Seems you are hung up on 1 or 2 wins ?. Your love for Dak is delusional, enjoy mediocrity.
 

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He has one more primetime games than any other quarterback. You have to understand what 8/he really means. Which I don’t think you do. Teams go to the Super Bowl and don’t even make the playoffs the following season. To be as good as we have been for so long it’s actually a great accomplishment. Because we never had those top draft picks. I’ve been saying this for years and finally the media is catching up with me. Agreeing. So maybe it’s not me understanding , And it’s more like you just not giving credit where it’s actually due
1- cowboys record is very mediocre the last 4 years . By any standards . Any Cowboys fan should aspire for Super Bowls or deep playoff runs . We have neither . It is a different perspective if you like mediocrity. This is rhe most expensive franchise on earth . A blue blood franchise .
2- what prime time games has Dak win ? He has lost almost every prime time game and is 1-2 in the playoffs . Dak was so lucky to have the support of the top OL/RB/WR roster . He has not delivered and has actually regressed last year again .
 

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1-6 against playoff teams . Seems you are hung up on 1 or 2 wins ?. Your love for Dak is delusional, enjoy mediocrity.
Way to run around the bush and back track on what you said. Stop saying 1 win against winning teams and you won't have to keep getting corrected silly rabbit
 

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1- cowboys record is very mediocre the last 4 years . By any standards . Any Cowboys fan should aspire for Super Bowls or deep playoff runs . We have neither . It is a different perspective if you like mediocrity. This is rhe most expensive franchise on earth . A blue blood franchise .
2- what prime time games has Dak win ? He has lost almost every prime time game and is 1-2 in the playoffs . Dak was so lucky to have the support of the top OL/RB/WR roster . He has not delivered and has actually regressed last year again .
Your first statement was the only correct one. It’s a team effort a franchise effort not a quarterback only effort
 

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1- cowboys record is very mediocre the last 4 years . By any standards . Any Cowboys fan should aspire for Super Bowls or deep playoff runs . We have neither . It is a different perspective if you like mediocrity. This is rhe most expensive franchise on earth . A blue blood franchise .
2- what prime time games has Dak win ? He has lost almost every prime time game and is 1-2 in the playoffs . Dak was so lucky to have the support of the top OL/RB/WR roster . He has not delivered and has actually regressed last year again .
You can have your opinion but the fact you Mention are totally wrong. Prescott has one more primetime games at any other quarterback since she’s been in the league. Regressed last year. It was actually proved everybody he could go deep. Stop making up stupid excuses. You just don’t like him and that’s fine it’s the stupidest uses that are ridiculous
 

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1- cowboys record is very mediocre the last 4 years . By any standards . Any Cowboys fan should aspire for Super Bowls or deep playoff runs . We have neither . It is a different perspective if you like mediocrity. This is rhe most expensive franchise on earth . A blue blood franchise .
2- what prime time games has Dak win ? He has lost almost every prime time game and is 1-2 in the playoffs . Dak was so lucky to have the support of the top OL/RB/WR roster . He has not delivered and has actually regressed last year again .

Brees was 1-2 in the playoffs after 6 years in the NFL. Peyton Manning was 0-3 in the playoffs in his first 5 years. So, how does 1-2 after 4 years condemn a QB?

Of course we, and the team, should want a deep playoff run every year, but if it doesn’t happen it doesn’t automatically mean the players at key positions, including QB, are incapable of winning.
 
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In hindsight , honestly , shouldn’t the cowboys just grabbed Brady for 25-25 mil for the best chance to reach the Super Bowl this year or next while we still have the talent on the roster ?
Does any one really believe Dak gives us a better chance than Brady in the 2 year window ?
Good post and I agree. But the front office is made of cowards.
 
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