Wasn’t Brady worth it at 22-25 mil

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Do you have a convincing answer to #2 ?
Cowboys have one more primetime games than any other team switch Prescott has been in the league. That was a big thing everybody was talking about last season. I’m not gonna go through every single NFL game for you. You do your own legwork. But it is an actual fact. Also he’s one of the very few quarterbacks to beat Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Same thing about Pittsburgh. Just face it the kid is a winner. He’s never had a losing season. How many quarterbacks can you say that about
 

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These QBs did not have the same talent especially at OL which is crucial . These elite QBs you mentioned make players and coaches around them better . Once you win a super bowl many players around you get to the HOF .
It can be argued Dak has destroyed many careers around him and is a coach killer as well . The excuses for Dak has to end at some stage . It is super bowl or bust now with him as the cowboys can or justify keeping him at 37 and 50 mil a year .
Maybe not as good OL talent, but you pretended those guys didn’t have much talent around them at all, and they clearly did.

Ultimately, either the early in the career and playoff record is a standard that defines a career or it isn’t. You can’t just claim something as a standard when it suits you and then say it’s not a standard when it doesn’t.

and, realistically, the fortunes of Manning and the Colts didn’t change until he got Dungy as a head coach, and for Brees And the Saints until he got Payton. Who’s to say McCarthy may not bee a boost for Dak and the entire Cowboy team?
 

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Maybe not as good OL talent, but you pretended those guys didn’t have much talent around them at all, and they clearly did.

Ultimately, either the early in the career and playoff record is a standard that defines a career or it isn’t. You can’t just claim something as a standard when it suits you and then say it’s not a standard when it doesn’t.

and, realistically, the fortunes of Manning and the Colts didn’t change until he got Dungy as a head coach, and for Brees And the Saints until he got Payton. Who’s to say McCarthy may not bee a boost for Dak and the entire Cowboy team?
It was Dak Prescott that through Jason Witten and Bryant the first ever playoff touchdown catches. And this guy says he ruins peoples careers. I’m finding him to be ridiculous in the statements
 

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You said against winning teams. You are wrong, stop saying against winning teams and you won't get called out on it everytime. Playoff teams isn't the same as winning teams or you just can't understand the difference.
Read the article and look at the records . 1-6 against playoff teams is bad enough . Don’t try to evade the the record .
 

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These QBs did not have the same talent especially at OL which is crucial . These elite QBs you mentioned make players and coaches around them better . Once you win a super bowl many players around you get to the HOF .
It can be argued Dak has destroyed many careers around him and is a coach killer as well . The excuses for Dak has to end at some stage . It is super bowl or bust now with him as the cowboys can or justify keeping him at 37 and 50 mil a year .
Do you realize that Prescott through Bryant and Jason Witten the first ever playoff touchdown catches. He’s the reason Beasley got a good contract. Who’s career Has he ruined. That’s a ridiculous statement with no actual fact backing it up. Do you realize that he’s the only one of five quarterbacks it never had a losing season. I could go on and on with actual facts not opinions
 

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Cowboys have one more primetime games than any other team switch Prescott has been in the league. That was a big thing everybody was talking about last season. I’m not gonna go through every single NFL game for you. You do your own legwork. But it is an actual fact. Also he’s one of the very few quarterbacks to beat Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Same thing about Pittsburgh. Just face it the kid is a winner. He’s never had a losing season. How many quarterbacks can you say that about
1-6 against playoff teams is bad . No losing record in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about .
 

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Yeah, let's give a pile of money to an aging, declining QB for a year. What could go wrong?
 

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Read the article and look at the records . 1-6 against playoff teams is bad enough . Don’t try to evade the the record .
Look at how many teams he kept from having a winning record. But that’s a team statistic not an individual statistic. His numbers match Bradys and Mahomes. His interception to touchdown ratio is among the best in the league. That’s one of the best that you can have
 

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Maybe not as good OL talent, but you pretended those guys didn’t have much talent around them at all, and they clearly did.

Ultimately, either the early in the career and playoff record is a standard that defines a career or it isn’t. You can’t just claim something as a standard when it suits you and then say it’s not a standard when it doesn’t.

and, realistically, the fortunes of Manning and the Colts didn’t change until he got Dungy as a head coach, and for Brees And the Saints until he got Payton. Who’s to say McCarthy may not bee a boost for Dak and the entire Cowboy team?
Hopefully MM brings out the talent and results .
 

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1-6 against playoff teams is bad . No losing record in the worst division in football is nothing to brag about .
The eagles won the Super Bowl did you forget. LMAO And we beat them twice that season
 

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Hopefully MM brings out the talent and results .
I’m not a fan of Mike McCarthy. And I’m hoping brings his team back to greatness. It starts with culture of the locker room. Everybody has to buy into the scheme which we’ve never had under Jason. We are lucky to win the games we have one. That’s because we have talent Prescott Elliot and others
 

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In hindsight , honestly , shouldn’t the cowboys just grabbed Brady for 25-25 mil for the best chance to reach the Super Bowl this year or next while we still have the talent on the roster ?
Does any one really believe Dak gives us a better chance than Brady in the 2 year window ?

I was under impression Brady doesn't like Dallas (never has) and it wasn't real option.
 

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How is that cheery picking? With Cassell and his other QBs, after implementing the system he wanted in NE and establishing his tenor, he was 18-6.
It’s cherry picking to take a 7-year sample size and look at only 20 games. That’s kinda actually a textbook example of cherry picking.

And all your cherry picking does not change the fact that he is well below .500 as an HC without Brady.
 

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It’s cherry picking to take a 7-year sample size and look at only 20 games. That’s kinda actually a textbook example of cherry picking.

And all your cherry picking does not change the fact that he is well below .500 as an HC without Brady.

Its cherry picking not to recognize that Bellichek was improving his team every year in Cleveland in the era prior to modern free-agency, the main reason after they started off 4-1, was that the season was upended by the move to Baltimore and nobody knew the state of their jobs, and that Bellichek went 14-6 without Brady in his prime of coaching and on fact the reason he’s consistently won in the playoffs and defeated the likes of Peyton Manning is because of the DB play, which is BB’s specialty and his ability to adjust at halftime as well.
 
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Its cherry picking not to recognize that Bellichek was improving his team every year in Cleveland in the era prior to modern free-agency, the main reason after they started off 4-1, was that the season was upended by the move to Baltimore and nobody knew the state of their jobs, and that Bellichek went 14-6 without Brady in his prime of coaching and on fact the reason he’s consistently won in the playoffs and defeated the likes of Peyton Manning is because of the DB play, which is BB’s specialty and his ability to adjust at halftime as well.
His lat season in Cleveland was his worst one.
 

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His lat season in Cleveland was his worst one.

I know that. Reread the post about the move to Baltimore.. my bad, just checked my English and it was bad. What I was saying and already said is after starting off 4-1 in his last season, the reason the tanking happened was because of context of the move.. the beginning of November It was officially announced, though it was pretty much accepted..
 

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Its cherry picking not to recognize that Bellichek was improving his team every year in Cleveland in the era prior to modern free-agency, the main reason after they started off 4-1, was that the season was upended by the move to Baltimore and nobody knew the state of their jobs, and that Bellichek went 14-6 without Brady in his prime of coaching and on fact the reason he’s consistently won in the playoffs and defeated the likes of Peyton Manning is because of the DB play, which is BB’s specialty and his ability to adjust at halftime as well.
If the season was completely upended by news off the field and the team lost focus, well that falls on the shoulders of the coach in many ways.

All your cherry picking and all your excuse making does nothing to change the fact that he is sub-.500 with 1 playoff victory in 7 years with QBs not named Tom Brady. Prior to Tom Brady, no one saw him as all that good of an HC, let alone a great one.
 

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If the season was completely upended by news off the field and the team lost focus, well that falls on the shoulders of the coach in many ways.

All your cherry picking and all your excuse making does nothing to change the fact that he is sub-.500 with 1 playoff victory in 7 years with QBs not named Tom Brady. Prior to Tom Brady, no one saw him as all that good of an HC, let alone a great one.

It’s not cherry picking and it’s not excuse making. If your about to be let go and told you need to train your replacement, will you be 100% all in... That’s called CONTEXT, not-cherry picking.. What is also called context is BB improving his team every year in pre free-agency.. What is also called context is BB going 11-5 with Cassell with the SAME roster Brady played with.. What is also called context is BB going 3-1 with the SAME roster Brady player with..
 
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