Colin. The receivers are not the issue

[glimmerman]

I'd love to ask dak "what difference do you see between old coaches and new?"

Maybe early to ask that one. Lol. But yeah he has to have gotten a vibe by now. I wonder if MM is going to push him and take a leader/HC roll or play catch with him after practice.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Agreed

The homers boast about dominating 2 of the 5 worst teams in football and that is where the bulk of Dak’s stats came from.

3 of his top 5 passing yardage games were against GB, Buffalo and Minnesota, none of which were any of the "worst 5 teams in football".

But that's fine, obviously you feel Dak had fantastic coaching from Garrett, et al. so the team's failures were all Dak's fault.

Assuming there's a season, guess we'll find out, won't we?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

3 of his top 5 passing yardage games were against GB, Buffalo and Minnesota, none of which were any of the "worst 5 teams in football".

But that's fine, obviously you feel Dak had fantastic coaching from Garrett, et al. so the team's failures were all Dak's fault.

Assuming there's a season, guess we'll find out, won't we?

I think you just went strawman in this discussion. Or perhaps hyperbole?
I can't recall anyone blaming only Dak for all of our woes.

But if claiming that helps you "win"...okay.

 

[CATCH17]

3 of his top 5 passing yardage games were against GB, Buffalo and Minnesota, none of which were any of the "worst 5 teams in football".

But that's fine, obviously you feel Dak had fantastic coaching from Garrett, et al. so the team's failures were all Dak's fault.

Assuming there's a season, guess we'll find out, won't we?

Coaching could make the offense and him look better but he is limited with his own natural ability.

Where he could actually take a step forward with his natural ability is if he would move more instead of trying to be Troy Aikman all the time.

My hope is we can get Stafford on a discount next year. I think he's a better player that will be cheaper and would excel on this team.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah throwing to old man Witten and broken down Dez.

You mean when he wasn’t surrounded by all-pro talent at every position. I thought Dez was the problem, because Dak kept forcing the ball to him? What was the excuse when Cooper wasn’t here and Witten was in the broadcast booth and Dez was gone and the offense was “Dak friendly” and Dak says they didn’t need a number 1 WR? Or this year when Smith was out.

 

[khiladi]

3 of his top 5 passing yardage games were against GB, Buffalo and Minnesota, none of which were any of the "worst 5 teams in football".

But that's fine, obviously you feel Dak had fantastic coaching from Garrett, et al. so the team's failures were all Dak's fault.

Assuming there's a season, guess we'll find out, won't we?

The Bills and GB were all basically in garbage time, just like the Bears and he choked in Minnesota and that was unusual, simply be the fact he could never repeat it. He threw like 3 INTs against GB. He’s absolute garbage in the red zone on the road even when he has his team stacked with talent.

Three of the four team he played including the Bills and Bears, and I believe the Jets were top 5 in defending play action pass. There is a reason he was garbage against those teams. The only team one could say he played well was against the Rams and that’s because Zeke went off running the ball and completely wore out the Rams front. Even the best defensive player in the league in AD couldn’t get to Dak and when all was said and done not only did Zeke run all over then, Pollard followed it. If teams aren’t biting for Zeke and stacking the box on play action, with one safety and man on the outside normally he’s not finding any receivers and he’s taking the underneath.

 

[khiladi]

Here are the stats where the top 5 teams that defend the play action on 20+ yard throws are.

All those deep throws were pretty much non-existent and Dak only moved the ball in garbage time. And play action, it’s usually the first or second read and Dak knows where he’s going from the get go.


https://buffalonews.com/sports/bill...cle_7b6854af-e371-59c1-b9c8-d11cf0c4acdb.html

“Teams load the box, and Dak takes advantage of play action,” Hyde said. “It’s something we have to account for and understand that it’s going to come.”

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The Bills and GB were all basically in garbage time, just like the Bears and he choked in Minnesota and that was unusual, simply be the fact he could never repeat it. He threw like 3 INTs against GB. He’s absolute garbage in the red zone on the road even when he has his team stacked with talent.

Three of the four team he played including the Bills and Bears, and I believe the Jets were top 5 in defending play action pass. There is a reason he was garbage against those teams. The only team one could say he played well was against the Rams and that’s because Zeke went off running the ball and completely wore out the Rams front. Even the best defensive player in the league in AD couldn’t get to Dak and when all was said and done not only did Zeke run all over then, Pollard followed it. If teams aren’t biting for Zeke and stacking the box on play action, with one safety and man on the outside normally he’s not finding any receivers and he’s taking the underneath.

Everything is "garbage time", eh? The talent level in the NFL isn't that far apart between the best and the worst teams. There is no such thing as making one's entire good season based on "garbage time"

But the fact remains, assuming there is a season, WE WILL SEE...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Coaching could make the offense and him look better but he is limited with his own natural ability.

Where he could actually take a step forward with his natural ability is if he would move more instead of trying to be Troy Aikman all the time.

My hope is we can get Stafford on a discount next year. I think he's a better player that will be cheaper and would excel on this team.

Stafford is a very good quarterback, I'll certainly agree to that.

But if he's markedly better than Dak, then despite being on poor teams overall he should have led his team to at least ONE playoff win. But he's 0-3 in the playoffs and has lost 10 more games than he's won.

He might be better here, but it's too much of an unknown at this point.

It's always the same, a Dallas quarterback doesn't win SBs in a year or two or four, then "he's not good enough". We got spoiled, and lucky, with Roger and Troy. But just ask Cleveland, since 2007 they've drafted one quarterback no. 1 and 3 at number 22 overall, and look where they've been since 2007. Now those are draft choices, not established players, but the point is dumping one quarterback for another isn't a sure thing.

Just don't agree getting Stafford or any other likely available veteran is a good strategy..

 

[Starforever]

You roll them out.

I’m not the one boasting about Dak’s stats all the time.. I look at him and see a non-difference maker at the position and the numbers people like to boast about came mostly against 2 really bad teams.


I like Dak but he is terrible value and not good enough imo to see as not replaceable.

He’s a caretaker QB.

So, you are basing a four year career on one year? Just asking.

 

[Starforever]

It isn’t garbage, you know why? Because we’ve seen Dak when Zeke was suspended, or Cooper wasn’t here or Smith is out.. he’s absolute GARBAGE...

Absolutely, lol.

 

[CATCH17]

So, you are basing a four year career on one year? Just asking.

Yeah as a whole that is how I view him. He hasn't been a difference maker in many football games and he's the QB.

Just a caretaker.

 

[black label]

“Dak whipped his butt when they played head to head”




Dak:
18/27
212 yards
0 Tds
2 Ints
59.5 rating

Carr:
21/38
171 yds
2 Td
0 Ints
84 rating
1 fumble

 

[black label]

This doods like Rodger staudummy

 

[khiladi]

Everything is "garbage time", eh? The talent level in the NFL isn't that far apart between the best and the worst teams. There is no such thing as making one's entire good season based on "garbage time"

But the fact remains, assuming there is a season, WE WILL SEE...

yes there is.. when your getting blown out and the winning team is only concerned with milking the clock and defending against the big play.. You may claim there is no such thing as garbage time, but we all know it is the case, which is why defenses go to prevent and allow yards underneath..

 

[Them]

..Cowherd is not someone that I care to listen to very often....but only because he's a Cowboy hating jerk...and always has been!...

 

[egn22]

Why didn’t he mention garrets “trend” which was being a .500 coach regardless of QB

 

[LACowboysFan1]

yes there is.. when your getting blown out and the winning team is only concerned with milking the clock and defending against the big play.. You may claim there is no such thing as garbage time, but we all know it is the case, which is why defenses go to prevent and allow yards underneath..

Re-read my post, please. I did not say there is "no such thing as garbage time". I said "no such thing as making one's entire good season based on "garbage time" . Certainly Dak had games where the other team wasn't very good, but that was not the case for 16 games, or anywhere close to 16 games.

 

[DuncanIso]

Agreed

The homers boast about dominating 2 of the 5 worst teams in football and that is where the bulk of Dak’s stats came from.

Dak struggles vs press coverage.

Giants figured it out in 2016.

 

[Swagger]

Dak struggles vs press coverage.

Giants figured it out in 2016.

And the Colts.

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