Twitter: Cowboys extend Demarcus Lawrence

[cern]

If you need the cap space in 2021, you can restructure in 2021. Restructuring for the purposes of just rolling it over is likely one of the worst strategies of all time. Worse than restructuring in an attempt to load up or avoid cutting players, just like Dallas used to do.

the cap is likely to be smaller next year. that's why they're doing the restructures now. they want to add to it so it's available to sign dak next year. makes perfect sense. no other major signings in the near future.

 

[Stash]

i think they've done an outstanding job signing keys to the team's future success. and you are more than free to disagree. i typically like your posts. but for the sake of conversation, could you state why you dont think stephen's done a good job getting players signed. what he might have one to get dak signed long term this year.

It's specific to signing Prescott's long term. Stephen low-balled him at the start, and meanwhile, Geoff, Wentz, Mahomes, and now Watson have all signed deals which have done nothing but raise the quarterback market and Prescott's asking price. That should be obvious.

And thanks for the compliments regarding my posts, right back at ya.

 

[cern]

Is it? How much have they paid him for zero meaningful snaps?

risk reward. if he didn't get injured, they make out like champs. if he does, they don't lose a bundle. ever invested in the stock market?

 

[Stash]

risk reward. if he didn't get injured, they make out like champs. if he does, they don't lose a bundle. ever invested in the stock market?

Sure, but this one busted. Completely. You don't get a pat on the back for failure.

 

[Hoofbite]

the cap is likely to be smaller next year. that's why they're doing the restructures now. they want to add to it so it's available to sign dak next year. makes perfect sense. no other major signings in the near future.

If you need the cap space in 2021, you can restructure in 2021.

 

[John813]

If you need the cap space in 2021, you can restructure in 2021. Restructuring for the purposes of just rolling it over is likely one of the worst strategies of all time. Worse than restructuring in an attempt to load up or avoid cutting players, just like Dallas used to do.

Yes and no. Restructuring now allows part of the restructure "penalty" to apply this year. So, including 2020, Demarcus Lawrence is now under contract till 2024(voidable year). Since they converted 15 mil into a signing bonus, the spreadable cap hit from that 15 mil is prorated from 2020 to 2024. Or 5 years. So, an additional 3mil cap hit over 5 years.
They do it next year, under same terms, and it's a 3.75mil cap hit over the remaining 4 years. Yes, only 750k difference, but it adds up when you also restructure 2-4 more players. Instead of 750k, you save close to 3-4mil a year of additional hits by spreading the prorated new signing bonus over longer terms.

jmo

The guys they've restructured I'm hoping they still see a long term value in. Cause with Frederick they restructured twice and he retired early biting them a bit in the butt. Same with Romo.

 

[ItzKelz]

surely tyrone crawford will be released next year freeing up a few million more.

Tyrone has value. I really never got why people want him gone. He is not the greatest player but he doesn't get paid that way either.

 

[Sydla]

Yes and no. Restructuring now allows part of the restructure "penalty" to apply this year. So, including 2020, Demarcus Lawrence is now under contract till 2024(voidable year). Since they converted 15 mil into a signing bonus, the spreadable cap hit from that 15 mil is prorated from 2020 to 2024. Or 5 years. So, an additional 3mil cap hit over 5 years.
They do it next year, under same terms, and it's a 3.75mil cap hit over the remaining 4 years. Yes, only 750k difference, but it adds up when you also restructure 2-4 more players. Instead of 750k, you save close to 3-4mil a year of additional hits by spreading the prorated new signing bonus over longer terms.

jmo

The guys they've restructured I'm hoping they still see a long term value in. Cause with Frederick they restructured twice and he retired early biting them a bit in the butt. Same with Romo.

Exactly.

I was confused by his suggestion that restructuring to rollover space is worse than doing to avoid cutting a player. There's no difference from a cap perspective in why you restructured.

And other teams are doing it now as well trying to get ready for the likely smaller cap in 2021.

 

[cern]

It's specific to signing Prescott's long term. Stephen low-balled him at the start, and meanwhile, Geoff, Wentz, Mahomes, and now Watson have all signed deals which have done nothing but raise the quarterback market and Prescott's asking price. That should be obvious.

And thanks for the compliments regarding my posts, right back at ya.

rams and philly have lost key players due to the cost of signing wentz and goff.. texans traded away deandre hopkins and his potential huge salary to sign watson. they sure could have used hopkins last night. mahomey deal gave the chiefs a lot of flexibility with the cap so they could sign kelce. dak was intractable. no give at all. stephen was left with no choice for the immediate time than to just stick to the tag. if it costs more next year, it costs more. at least now they have the starting parameters of the deal in place.

 

[Sydla]

Tyrone has value. I really never got why people want him gone. He is not the greatest player but he doesn't get paid that way either.

He's an average DT with a 9MM cap hit. That's pretty bad. Sure he has value........... at like a $3MM cap hit.

 

[Wichitaleafs]

Once again, kickin the can.

 

[Stash]

rams and philly have lost key players due to the cost of signing wentz and goff.. texans traded away deandre hopkins and his potential huge salary to sign watson. they sure could have used hopkins last night. mahomey deal gave the chiefs a lot of flexibility with the cap so they could sign kelce. dak was intractable. no give at all. stephen was left with no choice for the immediate time than to just stick to the tag. if it costs more next year, it costs more. at least now they have the starting parameters of the deal in place.

It's not a good thing. No spinning it otherwise.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I know the general feeling is they are doing this for Dak's deal but it could also mean they're making sure they have enough to tag him ($37M) AND keep at least a couple defensive free agents.

 

[ItzKelz]

Not really.

They were always going to have to clear cap space even if they had signed Dak a few months ago. With the new cap number teams are now trying to get ahead of this stuff by increasing their roll over numbers. Other teams are doing this as well. Philly restructured Lane Johnson, for example, a couple of days ago.

I have no idea who Philly needs to sign next year....and don't care honestly. my concerns are do we have enough room to sign Dak. It was reported I believe last week that they were not freeing up this space to add a player but to clear space to sign Dak. Until I see something different I will drink the Kool Aide on that report.

 

[quickccc]

surely tyrone crawford will be released next year freeing up a few million more.

No need to " release " Crawford, as he is a Unrestricted Free Agent next year ,.. He's not a starter but yet We made out to charity with him for years
simply because we admire how he carries himself in the locker room ? Geeez

 

[cern]

Actually, he's not under contract after this year.

addition by subtraction.

 

[Stash]

Tyrone has value. I really never got why people want him gone. He is not the greatest player but he doesn't get paid that way either.

$9.1 million reasons why.

Take a look at what this team's starters are being paid. Then compare that to a backup without a true role.

 

[Diehardblues]

As earlier reports stated we missed our opportunity to sign Dak. It’s going to cost us a ton more next year.

Impressive stand in the sand Cheapskate Son. Lol

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes and no. Restructuring now allows part of the restructure "penalty" to apply this year. So, including 2020, Demarcus Lawrence is now under contract till 2024(voidable year). Since they converted 15 mil into a signing bonus, the spreadable cap hit from that 15 mil is prorated from 2020 to 2024. Or 5 years. So, an additional 3mil cap hit over 5 years.
They do it next year, under same terms, and it's a 3.75mil cap hit over the remaining 4 years. Yes, only 750k difference, but it adds up when you also restructure 2-4 more players. Instead of 750k, you save close to 3-4mil a year of additional hits by spreading the prorated new signing bonus over longer terms.

jmo

The guys they've restructured I'm hoping they still see a long term value in. Cause with Frederick they restructured twice and he retired early biting them a bit in the butt. Same with Romo.

Cowboys do this type of thing all the time. It's why they like to do longer contracts. They feel like it gives them a certain amount of flexibility. It's part of their business model.

Nice post though John. You are able to lay it out so that it's much easier to understand and that's very helpful IMO.

 

[Sydla]

I have no idea who Philly needs to sign next year....and don't care honestly. my concerns are do we have enough room to sign Dak. It was reported I believe last week that they were not freeing up this space to add a player but to clear space to sign Dak. Until I see something different I will drink the Kool Aide on that report.

Nothing you said refutes my point. These moves aren't necessarily to sign Dak. It's to get ready for the 2021 cap year when the Cowboys are projected to be over the estimated lower cap (substantially lower depending on revenues). If Dak had signed last month, they still likely would have restructured deals to get ready for 2021. It's not even about adding players right now. It's about trying to create as much rollover space as possible to help alleviate cap concerns in 2021.

The point about Philly was to highlight that teams are restructuring now to try to make it easier to comply with the 2021 cap.