Serious question for Dak haters

[Whyjerry]

Consistency against better teams that's what most are looking for. Yesterday was gift wrapped win. Dak played good and showed some heart but that doesn't change what he has been, good against the low end teams average or less against good teams. Lets see what happens against Seattle.

Seattle will be a test for sure. Wilson is playing MVP football to start the season.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Here is the question I have. Just rhetorical, actually.

Were there Dallas Cowboy fans, during the first half yesterday, smugly sitting back and rooting for a blowout to support their feelings about a specific player or coach.

And do you think they are silent today because it didn't work out for them to gloat. Or - OH MY GOSH - they may have seen something that tells them they have been wrongs about the specific player or coach.

I don't believe anyone will ever find the truth here. But it certainly is a strong possibility since we live in an age of being right on the internet is more important than anything else.

 

[Rockport]

So you are a hater if you think he's not that great? Remember Flacco had games where he looked all pro, so did Eli or McNabb, ECT....don't get carried away

Anyways.....

If he wins the Superbowl, I'd be satisfied. It would satisfy my hunger for at least 3-5 years, then I'll be ready to move on from him again.

I don't believe in him, I don't trust his ability to scan the field properly and I don't trust his accuracy, especially with 15+ yard passes.

Let him win the SB and I wouldn't say a word about dude for another 3-5 years.

#DontpayDak

This is an ignorant fan who only judges QB’s by SB wins.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Why does that bother you? I don't get this narrative, anyone with an ego wants to get paid.

For me, if you are going to pay your QB 40mil a year, he needs to be a difference maker. To this point, Dak has not been that guy. He plays great at times and he plays like dog crap at times. Yesterday was the best I have seen him look and if he continues to play at that level, then I will say Pay the Man, but we have all seen him play great at times and if you are honest, he has been bad at times. Overall, a middle of the pack QB. If Dak can become the QB that doesn't need an all pro OL, and 2 or 3 World Class WR and a beast at running back to win, then you can say he is a difference maker. This isn't about being perfect, its about rising to the challenge. Yesterday he did and he was impressive. He can play at that level and keep rising to the occasions, then he will get paid. I hope he does, I don't want to go on a QB search but I don't want to pay a QB 40 million a year and hamstring the team unless I know he can throw the team on his back and win a game or two when we need it.

 

[Brax]

Seattle will be a test for sure. Wilson is playing MVP football to start the season.

Heck of a game against NE, should be a fun watch.

 

[kskboys]

There are a lot of you. Question - Is there anything he can do to change your mind? Would a SB win do it? League MVP? NFC Championship? 40 TDs? Anything?

Is it the contract? Is it because he is not Mahomes or Wilson?

Dak haters and fans agree that Dak can be inconsistent with accuracy but I think he adds toughness, running ability and leadership.

Serious question so don’t be nasty. What, if anything, could he do to win you over?

There's like 5 Dak haters on the entire site. Maybe don't focus on them?

 

[kskboys]

Dak has proven everyone wrong. That seems to be what he does. His accuracy compared to two years ago is like night and day. He is a great leader and you can tell. He is getting more and more comfortable with every situation you can throw at him. Yesterday vs the falcons he LED the cowboys not just manage, he LED the Cowboys to a victory. Thats what you want to see in your franchise QB . This is his fifth season and the confidence really set in after we got Amari Cooper. Dak has "IT" and it is easy to see now. It took some time but its there . That win vs the falcons was a money game. His agent can walk into Jerry's office with th game tape and slap it down on Jerry's desk and say, "pay the man". Im proud if Dak but his work isn't done. We have the Seahawks next game. If dak wants to seal the deal ,he needs to qin this game vs a QB who has taken the same path as he has. He was drafted low, he struggled with accuracy and seeing over his o line. He took an attitude to put the franchise on his back and prove the doubters wrong and he won a SB, even though the defense was the strength of that team he had big moments. If Dak wins this match-up, he is paid and its that simple

Pay a guy due to one game? Jerry, nice to see you here posting!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Easy one..…….I nailed Dak from the beginning.

Did his GF not mind?

 

[Whyjerry]

There's like 5 Dak haters on the entire site. Maybe don't focus on them?

Way more than that. Some of them are good fans that have solid opinions on other aspects of the team. For whatever reason the “Dak Detractors” mostly seem set in their opinions. That’s why I asked.

 

[Frozen700]

This is an ignorant fan who only judges QB’s by SB wins.

You swear you know anything about the sport.

All you know how to do is be a cheerleader. I know you probably where a cheerleader in HS, but clapping and dancing at everything the cowboys do doesn't make you a great fan.

#DontpayDak

 

[Vtwin]

Remember this time last season? 2-0 coming off 2 high flying offensive performances. Anointing oil falling from the skies and flowing through the streets. Then the rest of the season happened. After 1 more impressive showing by the offense they went 5-8 the rest of the way with some very average performances against better defenses.

So far this season the offense has had one good half of football out of four. That one half was one for the ages and Dak and the rest of the offense certainly deserve the credit but let's keep it real. Atlanta's defense is a bottom ten unit, luck played a significant role and Dak has one hell of a trio of WR's to work with.

What Dak has not shown me yet is a willingness or ability to hit the quick passes in the middle in a short field. Quick slant in the endzone from the five or hit the guy coming across the back of the endzone. The throws that require precision in timing and placement. IMO you need to be able to hit a decent percentage of those to be considered a top tier QB and to have success against the top teams you will face in the playoffs. The QB run, RB in the flat and the occasional lob to the corner of the endzone might get you through much of the regular season but against the big dogs you're going to have to use the whole field.

As an aside to the OP. I would bet that using "hater" right out of the gate (or anytime for that matter) invites unfriendly and defensive responses. I know that there is no hope for clowns like Cowboyroy but we can and should do better.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did his GF not mind?

she wasn’t home.

 

[pansophy]

Dak’s accuracy issues were well founded. Year 1 he destroyed people down the middle, but in year 2 defenses clogged the middle of the field and Dak couldn’t hit the outside throws to make teams pay for that strategy. There was talk of Dez, Beasley, and Witten “declining” all in the same year. That was tough sledding.

In year 3 defenses did the same thing, and the plan to counter it was to hit more go routes since Dak was okay at those. But it’s a low probability throw and we just didn’t hit enough of them to break defenses out of clogging the middle. We trade for Cooper, and unlike Dez, Dak builds instant chemistry with him. Two huge games by Cooper and it finally broke defenses out of clogging the middle of the field. Jarwin then made the stat line in a meaningful way for the first time. Things looked more like year 1, and it looked like Dak was anticipating better by year end (something he confirmed in off-season). I made posts about Dak believing we may have been seeing him turn the corner, but I still had concerns. Recall he had two INTs in the end zone because he was trying to lob the ball in so not to miss a wide open receiver.

The first 3 games of year 4 is what removed any doubts for me. He came in with a new throwing motion, and his accuracy issues were solved. Balls zipped to WRs and the placement was better. He was able to hit sideline throws when the WR would have to adjust to keep both feet in bounds — something we almost never saw previously because Dak couldn’t make those throws. That’s what sold me.

Last year turned out to be a mess. Had Dak remained healthy all year I think that could have changed his narrative for almost everyone, but he had a tough time the 2nd half of the year with his shoulder. I also think 35-40 million is just a number that seems crazy, which doesn’t help. But Derek Carr was the highest paid player in the league for a time.

So I’m guessing people need to see a full year of Dak looking rock solid without big swings in his level of play. If the defense doesn’t play better, it may not matter, but it could change the minds of people about Dak. We’ll see.

 

[kskboys]

Way more than that. Some of them are good fans that have solid opinions on other aspects of the team. For whatever reason the “Dak Detractors” mostly seem set in their opinions. That’s why I asked.

Monster of a difference between a detractor and a hater.

No, there's really not many more than that. Most people are on the fence re Dak. And rightly so. He's been wildly inconsistent up to this point. He was terrible in the first game, great in the 2nd. My mind is still not made up, but I definitely have not seen a 40 mil player up to this point.

Most posters are not set in their opinions on Dak. What you see are the 10 lovers constantly fighting the 10 haters. Most posters stay out of the Dak arguments due to the extreme vitriol spewing.

 

[Aviano90]

How frequently does anyone change their opinion on any topic? People who don’t want Dak as QB will never change their mind.

 

[Vandyr]

How frequently does anyone change their opinion on any topic? People who don’t want Dak as QB will never change their mind.

Wildly inaccurate.

 

[InTheZone]

BS. I started a Dak thread last Monday after we lost. You're a hater and don't have the morals to admit you are wrong. First it was not passing for a lot of yards, then it was accuracy, then it was pocket awareness, note after a all time Cowboys record year and 2 outstanding performances this year you have the audacity to whine about consistency?! Yeah you’rea big time hater.

Settle down there little r word, you don't speak for Dak or represent everyone that does.

 

[kskboys]

Someone did a poll re Dak, I think it was in the off. Most were on the fence about him.

 

[Rockport]

Remember this time last season? 2-0 coming off 2 high flying offensive performances. Anointing oil falling from the skies and flowing through the streets. Then the rest of the season happened. After 1 more impressive showing by the offense they went 5-8 the rest of the way with some very average performances against better defenses.

So far this season the offense has had one good half of football out of four. That one half was one for the ages and Dak and the rest of the offense certainly deserve the credit but let's keep it real. Atlanta's defense is a bottom ten unit, luck played a significant role and Dak has one hell of a trio of WR's to work with.

What Dak has not shown me yet is a willingness or ability to hit the quick passes in the middle in a short field. Quick slant in the endzone from the five or hit the guy coming across the back of the endzone. The throws that require precision in timing and placement. IMO you need to be able to hit a decent percentage of those to be considered a top tier QB and to have success against the top teams you will face in the playoffs. The QB run, RB in the flat and the occasional lob to the corner of the endzone might get you through much of the regular season but against the big dogs you're going to have to use the whole field.

As an aside to the OP. I would bet that using "hater" right out of the gate (or anytime for that matter) invites unfriendly and defensive responses. I know that there is no hope for clowns like Cowboyroy but we can and should do better.

And Dak came within 1 yard of setting the all time Cowboy passing record. He was the only reason we won the games we did last year.

 

[OmerV]

I thought we saw a lot of good things in the defense yesterday. The big disappointment was a handful of plays where somebody missed an assignment and a receiver was left wide open for a big gain - or TD. A little more pressure on the QB would be nice too - we should have the players for that. The only sack was really a coverage sack.