It would appear that the defense is the issue, but

[Ranching]

Why would any Cowboys fans give this clown, squealer fan a like?????

 

[Ranching]

Good post.

Pour another round!!! Salud.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Offense turned it over 3 times today. Teams with negative TO differential win 23% of their games.

How many turnovers the D get?

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

How about OUR defense providing some turnovers to give our offense some short fields? Oh hell, I’d just settle for them getting off the field occasionally without giving up points. What a concept!

Okay, I say our defense sucks. Now explain to me how you use your reasoning that the "defense does not provide turnovers" to defend turnovers by our offense? Might I remind you this isn't just today - this offense has coughed up the ball 3 weeks in a row, that is the sign of a bad team. Good teams may turn the ball over at times but it isn't a trend.

 

[Ring6]

"It would appear the defense is the issue, but ... "

Ockham's razor (or Beckham's razor?) = simpler explanations are usually better, so just remove the "but".

 

[BourbonBalz]

Okay, I say our defense sucks. Now explain to hmeow you use your reasoning that the "defense does not provide turnovers" to defend turnovers by our offense? Might I remind you this isn't just today - this offense has coughed up the ball 3 weeks in a row, that is the sign of a bad team. Good teams may turn the ball over at times but it isn't a trend.

I don’t like the turnovers, but they shouldn’t automatically lead to TDs. It’d be nice if the D stepped up just once in a while. Because our defense sucks so badly, the offense has to take chances and push the issue. They know damned well they can’t rely on the defense to get any stops. Despite the turnovers, the offense is still doing its job putting points on the board. The defense is adding NOTHING!

 

[irving]

Anyone blaming the offense simply has no football IQ, just realize if the defense was just average Dallas would have a wining record. The offense will continue to turn the ball over because Dak is being forced to throw to many times in the game. Passing 50 plus times a game is not a recipe to wining,but because the offensive line in really bad, they can't run the ball. Truth is the offensive line doesn't pass block well either, it's amazing Dak has played as well as he has.

 

[ICP]

Offense turned it over 3 times today. Teams with negative TO differential win 23% of their games.

That's why I said 'for the most part could be overcome' but when your defense gives up basically 50 to a mediocre team at home(and basically every game for that matter), to me, that's a bigger issue

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I don’t like the turnovers, but they shouldn’t automatically lead to TDs. It’d be nice if the D stepped up just once in a while. Because our defense sucks so badly, the offense has to take chances and push the issue. They know damned well they can’t rely on the defense to get any stops. Despite the turnovers, the offense is still doing its job putting points on the board. The defense is adding NOTHING!

Oh I agree they shouldn't automatically lead to TD's. But might I remind you this defense has sucked for the last 3 years and this year seems to be worse due to the added issues of injuries and key departure of people, bringing on new people, implementing new defensive philosophy and no training camp etc.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Oh I agree they shouldn't automatically lead to TD's. But might I remind you this defense has sucked for the last 3 years and this year seems to be worse due to the added issues of injuries and key departure of people, bringing on new people, implementing new defensive philosophy and no training camp etc.

True but many other teams are facing exactly the same issues and their defenses aren’t Charmin.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Anyone blaming the offense simply has no football IQ, just realize if the defense was just average Dallas would have a wining record. The offense will continue to turn the ball over because Dak is being forced to throw to many times in the game. Passing 50 plus times a game is not a recipe to wining,but because the offensive line in really bad, they can't run the ball. Truth is the offensive line doesn't pass block well either, it's amazing Dak has played as well as he has.

Ah yes the offense is blameless. Turnovers, no problem. Go missing over 2 quarters, no problem. It's all good, just look at the end of game stats because then your "football IQ" shines through.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.

How in the heck was that strip fumble Dak's fault?

Please enlighten us ...

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

True but many other teams are facing exactly the same issues and their defenses aren’t Charmin.

Ah but the other teams are not run by a megalomaniac boozehound who does not believe in holding anyone accountable least of all his GM - oh right they are one and the same person. Players who play on the Cowboys realize real quick that they can play like garbage and nothing will happen to them. Just think, you get paid millions, mail it in and there is never any danger that you will lose your job.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Ah but the other teams are not run by a megalomaniac boozehound who does not believe in holding anyone accountable least of all his GM - oh right they are one and the same person. Players who play on the Cowboys realize real quick that they can play like garbage and nothing will happen to them. Just think, you get paid millions, mail it in and there is never any danger that you will lose your job.

Well, that’s an entirely different issue that won’t be resolved any time soon.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

How in the heck was that strip fumble Dak's fault?

Please enlighten us ...

You are right, Dak is blameless in everything including his fumbles. It's amazing, like he's one of those women who complains that every man she ever dated was a jerk and yet somehow she is the common denominator in it all.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak and the offense disappeared for two quarters today.
The Cowboys offense disappeared after a turnover by Dak and then another by Zeke- and stayed gone for the second and third quarter.
Now, you can blame the defense- and I'm sure Mike Nolan is getting walking papers ready for a few "hotboyz" holdovers that don't fit his scheme, but we repeatedly see Dak fold when the pressure is on.
He didn't even seem to try until they got a couple of breaks against the prevent defense.
As usual, he pads his stats against prevent defense, but if the Browns had not been kind enough to drop a few of Dak's passes, this game might have gotten even further out of hand.
Why do the Cowboys continue to struggle now that Garrett is gone? Because his philosophy is too engrained in too many holdovers from the last ten years.
Nolan will get the defense under control. By mid season or sooner the kinks worked out. Next off season there will likely be a mass exodus of players that don't fit Nolan's scheme.
But the Garrett 2.0 quarterback is still shutting down under pressure. And he's actually pretty good if he would just hang in there through the struggles. But he doesn't.
You saw it yourself again today.

actually this is a great post...why? you just pointed to our problem, although your intent was to criticize dak and the offense......

in the browns first 8 possessions....they scored on 7 of those possessions. where is the defensive culpability?

so you just said and basically admitted in your post, the offense has to be perfect. Dak has to be perfect. the offense has to score on every drive they have the ball to have a chance for a win. I would appreciate if you can point me to any team that can do that game in, game out. quarter in. quarter out....normally teams that score 24-28 points a game should be in a close game. we scored 14 in the half. that should be enough for a close game.....but defense gave up 31..... we gave up over 300 yards of offense to the browns...by HALF TIME.

that forces the offense to be one dimentional, and predictable. that allows the defense to sit back and keep you in front of them and force you to spend a lot of time.

and lets not dismiss the fact, which you tried, attempted to down play. they did make a huge comeback in the 4th quarter....as far as I remember, unless they changed the rules, 4th quarter still counts. they made it a 3 point game. with 4 minutes to go. that's a close game in the end, yet the defense CHOKED yet again. DEFENSE CHOKED.

no, this loss wasn't on the offense no matter how your drunk arse tries to pit it on the offense....this was all on defense.

the DEFENSE gave up 300 yards rushing!!!!! let that sink in......300 YARDS on the ground.....how is that on Dak and Zeke?

yes, I saw it today. I saw a defense get shredded. I saw a defense give up 300 YARDS on the ground.......I saw a defense get dismantled. my jr high school team plays better defense than this.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Well, that’s an entirely different issue that won’t be resolved any time soon.

I agree and like the snowball that rolls down the hill gathering mass and volume, this franchise is on a path of never winning anything. Just a lot of bravado thanks to the carnival barker of an owner.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Are you talking about the same offense that waited until they were behind 38-14 and had basically entered garbage time before finally coming to life?

I hope you and others have noticed this trend through the first 4 games.

doesn't matter. what garbage time? the game was within 3 points and about 4 minutes to go...... is that garbage? please explain how that's garbage?

and I guess you are basically saying the offense needs to be absolutely perfect. score every time for this team to have a chance. I mean normally you score 14 by half, it should be a close game. but the defense gave up 31 and 300+ yards of offense to the browns by HALFTIME.....yeah, that's on offense right?

 

[Dracula]

I saw the offense put up 38 points and the defense get completely embarrassed yet again.

I saw the same thing but I also saw the offense with goose eggs in the second and third quarter. A full half of the game and no points, while Cleveland was scoring 34 points. That needs some explaining.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Points are points. It’s a 60 minute game and the offense once again got us back in a game when the defense was beyond terrible. We needed just one stop at the end (just like last week) for a chance to win despite the complete lack of a defense. Result? One play and a 50 yard TD. LOL

well according to these guys, only points in the first 3 quarters matter....ignore the 4th