More proof why Dak is garbage

[khiladi]

That's a well said insightful rebuttal.

Fun fact: It took Dak 48 games before he threw a TD in the last two minutes of any game. Hitting the Bease with a sweet catch in the back of the endzone in the final regular season game against the Giants in 2018. Three full seasons.

And that was just a toss up and a prayer, after throwing three straight incompletions. And then Dak-stans turned on Beasley, who is basically getting his with Josh Allen two years in a row. He became the scape-goat for Dak.

 

[Carnes]

more like here is your agenda for bashing Dak

 

[khiladi]

What stands out to me here is how, once again, it's obvious some were way over critical of Romo.
Also, how great Mahomes is.

Look at what Garrett is doing in Giants land with completely control over the play-calling, which he hasn’t had since the end of the 2012 season. Garrett never could field a RG to save his life more run an offense that didn’t put so much pressure on Romo to bail his ineptitude out. The whole reason why Wade wanted Dan Reeves to BABY-sit was precisely because of this.

Barkley was averaging like a whopping 1 YPC and the Giants average like 11 points a game and are pretty much dead last in every statistical category.

Romo is a LIVING LEGEND the more people get to see Garrett in his shining glory as an OC and play-caller. If Romo had Reid as his HC, it would have been a sight to behold. And the amusing thing is the majority of this board that are probably now Dak-stans was still hyping the Garrett train when Reid was fired and used to say they’d never want this choker, but guys like me and @Chocolate Lab, among the handful of people on this site saying since as far back as 2009 the real problem is Garrett, were like, are you guys crazy?

 

[blueblood70]

The data comprises his career - so DAK had a period of scrub WRs as well.

I would not call being slightly below average in a very specific stat with a very small sample size garbage, but your agenda is well known.

whos Rogers throwing to this year? even missing his star wr, dude balling.. not Dak hate response i dont agree fully with the OP sentiment however Wilson , Mahomes, and Rogers are Clearly a level above dak..stats do lie and if you look at Daks Tos where hes got 2/3 more then RW and has 2 less sacks so RW is under as much pressure, RW YPA is over yard better and he has more Tds..his team has bad defense as well..

its shows how an elite leader at the Qb position can =more wins..

 

[khiladi]

So many legitimate arguments to make about Dak and other members of our offense get sidetracked by nonsensical attacks IMO.

Checkdown Charlie? This was a valid complaint in 2016, but I don't see it in 2020. It's like complaining that Zeke is too undersized to make a difference in our offense.

And Wilson has no wide receivers? Again, valid a few years back, but I'm quite envious of his receiving corps with Metcalf and Lockett. I don't see many people calling them garbage.

The stats are the first four years of RWs career, meaning exactly that, when he had no WRs. That is the actual comparison with Dak in this article and Dak is completely stacked at WR now on year 5 and was last year as well. As I stated, the only legitimate argument Dak stans can latch onto is that maybe Dak will turn into RW. But the odds are he will continue on this track, as is attested to by how much more he has thrown than RW in years 3 and 4, for both of them respectively.

After those years, Dak isn’t even on that level despite how much we have been throwing the last three years. He doesn’t have the drop back numbers, because he’s garbage at it and because Moore and Linehan had to tailor it out. This has been documented for years now. I’ve brought forth a couple articles that demonstrate on practical levels that it’s Dak, not the OCs limiting the offense.

Look at the Seattle game we watched. The Cowboys were dropping everybody back deep, and RW was making plays that required going through progressions. The Seahawks on the other hand were basically playing man press, one safety loading the box with at least 8.

 

[khiladi]

And like I said, apparently only Dallas defense sucks, while every team we played except for the Rams are an utter disaster. To Dak-stans we are the only team with scrubs at defense and they blamed the top 10 scoring defense, which was a bend-don’t-break philosophy, all these years Dak was floundering around.

 

[blueblood70]

Look at what Garrett is doing in Giants land with completely control over the play-calling, which he hasn’t had since the end of the 2012 season. Garrett never could field a RG to save his life more run an offense that didn’t put so much pressure on Romo to bail his ineptitude out. The whole reason why Wade wanted Dan Reeves to BABY-sit was precisely because of this.

Barkley was averaging like a whopping 1 YPC and the Giants average like 11 points a game and are pretty much dead last in every statistical category.

Romo is a LIVING LEGEND the more people get to see Garrett in his shining glory as an OC and play-caller. If Romo had Reid as his HC, it would have been a sight to behold. And the amusing thing is the majority of this board that are probably now Dak-stans was still hyping the Garrett train when Reid was fired and used to say they’d never want this choker, but guys like me and @Chocolate Lab, among the handful of people on this site saying since as far back as 2009 the real problem is Garrett, were like, are you guys crazy?

I luv Romo one of my favorite DC of all time but your hate of Dak are unwarranted..I do believe in years past Romo was Romo his early years and got better , Dak has just not started getting to that level in year 5 , I think Daks becoming Romo tell you the truth, now as passer but the difference i see is pocket presence, feeling pressure and moving correctly within the pocket, and most of all a better vision of the field ie reads defenses and he felt the right place to go..

Dak to me isnt far off from dak regardless of how you feel about him vs romo , hes fr sure not as bad as you ae referring to..i dont see check down Charlie, that guys gone but TB tb12 made career of a low YPA throw..

 

[khiladi]

How is the offense limited when it’s ranked so high? Please explain this...

Passing yardage, just like last year. The “number one ranked offense” last year was also the 17th ranked red-zone scoring defense overall and 22nd on the road. Garbage yards..

 

[BlueStar22]

When is the last time the cowboys have beat a good team on the road?

When's the last time the the offense hasn't had to play perfect football?

 

[khiladi]

Mahomes runs exclusively out of shot gun so I guess he’s trash. As well as Wilson....the reality is almost all good offense run shotgun most of the time. The days of the “traditional 5-7 step drop” are effectively dead. You would know that if you even pretended to watch other teams play

No, he doesn’t. Mahomes did in college like I’ve already mentioned in this topic, just like Dak. Dak has been bottom of the barrel in traditional drop steps. This is what Dak-stans like to harp on, that the the league had moved the trend of college (more because the rules have been set up for more offense to attract more viewership), that somehow implies complete disappearance of traditional football skills.

Goff is as much a one-read QB as Dak, both of them on first read to second read had the highest drop offs among any QB in 2018, Goff in 2019 ran the seven step drop 56 TIMES, to lead the league. Dak runs it on average two times a game now, despite how much we pass.

and like I said, the very first game of KCs RB rookie year, he ran for 97 yards on 8 carries against SIX OR LESS MEN in the BOX, meaning teams don’t dare Mahomes to beat them with his arm, unlike the scrub that is Dak, who has been running a top ranked play action offense the majority of his career here, even now with how much we throw. Dak led the league in play action passing yardage last year, and completely sucked in the red zone, meaning all he does is pad his stats against teams playing the run.

And we RUN a CORYELL.

You are the typical Dak-Stan that will yap about Aikman’s completion percentage in the 90s as a measuring bar of this bum that is Dak, and tell us how great Dak is, despite Aikman playing in the 90s with his career statistician completion percentage being higher than both Marino and Elway. By your logic, Dak is better than these three all-time greats. GTFOh with your garbage take nonsense that has zero basis in reality.

 

[ItzKelz]

When down by 4-8 points in the final four minutes if a game, meaning a TD to come out on top, in respect to the league average since 2016:

Passer Rating of Dak is 70.6, the league average is 76.5

YPA for Dak is 5.8, the league average is 6.6

The TD rate is 2.8% while the league average is 4.6%

Int rate is 2.7% while the league average is 3.7%.

Sack % is 7.7% versus 5.5% for the lasher average.

To summarize, Checkdown Charlie isn’t even average, per Action Network. I can give a summary of why he’s a joke in this aspect, including he really is risk averse and only throws the ball on desperation, down by three scores.

Here is the kicker, as I’ve been repeating ad nauseum. Notice the point of emphasis on Prescott and the infamous DROP-BACK. He can’t do it worth a dime, which clearly illustrates his incompetent and one-trick pony routine. And he’s not even close to Romo, let alone Mahomes, so cut the BS comparisons with this mediocre joke, while both Linehan and Moore had to basically completely eliminate the traditional drop-back for this bum.

Why are we even creating hate threads about anyone on our offense. Our defense actually deserves our hate!

 

[khiladi]

4-8 points in the final 4 minutes. Talk about cherry picking. Where does he rank in come from behind wins overall? That would surely be a much more telling stat

you mean the point spread meaning an ACTUAL TD to win is “cherry-picking”, you know the very reason why this article clearly stated it chose this as a reference point, unlike the bogus “Dak has more 4th QUARTER comebacks than any QB in history” nonsense, even if the team was down by 1 to start the fourth and our defense causes a TO that put the Cowboys in basically field goal scoring position like the Vikings game in year 1?

 

[blueblood70]

Why are we even creating hate threads about anyone on our offense. Our defense actually deserves our hate!

theres 16 threads on defense 10 on coaching 12 another all hate drooling attack threads so its about even..

take your pick...

 

[Denim Chicken]

The D holds teams to

whos Rogers throwing to this year? even missing his star wr, dude balling.. not Dak hate response i dont agree fully with the OP sentiment however Wilson , Mahomes, and Rogers are Clearly a level above dak..stats do lie and if you look at Daks Tos where hes got 2/3 more then RW and has 2 less sacks so RW is under as much pressure, RW YPA is over yard better and he has more Tds..his team has bad defense as well..

its shows how an elite leader at the Qb position can =more wins..

Cool story, let me know how you plan magically get a Rogers or a Mahomes.

 

[Big D]

Look at what Garrett is doing in Giants land with completely control over the play-calling, which he hasn’t had since the end of the 2012 season. Garrett never could field a RG to save his life more run an offense that didn’t put so much pressure on Romo to bail his ineptitude out. The whole reason why Wade wanted Dan Reeves to BABY-sit was precisely because of this.

Barkley was averaging like a whopping 1 YPC and the Giants average like 11 points a game and are pretty much dead last in every statistical category.

Romo is a LIVING LEGEND the more people get to see Garrett in his shining glory as an OC and play-caller. If Romo had Reid as his HC, it would have been a sight to behold. And the amusing thing is the majority of this board that are probably now Dak-stans was still hyping the Garrett train when Reid was fired and used to say they’d never want this choker, but guys like me and @Chocolate Lab, among the handful of people on this site saying since as far back as 2009 the real problem is Garrett, were like, are you guys crazy?

What do you think it would look like if Dak had Reid as his coach?

 

[khiladi]

Why are we even creating hate threads about anyone on our offense. Our defense actually deserves our hate!

Because we wasted five years to defend this mediocrity, while we had all the talent in the world to win, and because of this waste of roster space, we now have to completely rebuild the defense.

 

[khiladi]

What do you think it would look like if Dak had Reid as his coach?

Like 28 TDs Alex Smith maximum..

 

[streetcredit]

Dak is pretty good but you cant build a team with pretty good at $40 million unless you draft extremely well and get a few hometown discounts on free agents.

 

[blueblood70]

The D holds teams to


Cool story, let me know how you plan magically get a Rogers or a Mahomes.

sorry dont mention the 2018 teams where we had garbage wrs because no names caught tons of rogers passes on the money this year..doesnt matter those guys hit wrs on time and have a better feel for the field and pocket thats the difference..fans want to mention Dak not having weapons i rspjnd in kind..he needs more obviously we have ignored defense to coddle dak with weapons' to only see him with 3 lost fumbles and 3 picks this year 2 to end games.. just staying facts,

 

[ItzKelz]

theres 16 threads on defense 10 on coaching 12 another all hate drooling attack threads so its about even..

take your pick...

I would rather see how Cowboys fans justify complaining about any player on the offense....when we have a historically bad defense....in fact the worst in the history of the franchise.