Dalton's play will decide Prescott's future

RonnieT24

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You are in cloud cookoo land my friend if you think this team finishes 3-13 in this division. We still have 5 divisional games so that's worst case scenario 3 wins straight off the hip there, more likely 4.

You are MASSIVELY overrating the drop off from Prescott to Dalton.

We will win 7, 8 or 9 games and the division - as we would have done with Prescott.

I agree.. I think this team will win 6 or 7 more games with Dalton at the helm. It will be look different but I think it can be done. Dak was covering up a lot of warts by bringing the team back from the defense bending over and taking it from behind from the other team's offense. He was also shaking off and running out of a lot of would be sacks. I don't think it would be fair to ask Dalton to do that so I think they have to adjust the gameplan (as they should have been doing anyway) to feature more Zeke and less dropping back. Keep the game close, keep the defense as fresh as you can and then let your playmakers win it for you in the 4th quarter. I think that formula can get us to 10 wins. But if the defense remains at the historically bad level it has been playing at, AND the coaches continue to think running a fastbreak offense is the way to overcome it, it will be more like 6 wins.
 

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This isn't like the drop off when Romo went down and Orton, Weeden or Cassell came in - they were awful. We barely won a game and the season was well and truly over. Our goose was cooked.

Dalton for Prescott will pretty much be a wash because Dalton is a decent QB. Some think he's useless when he will prove them wrong in the upcoming weeks.
 

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Those garbage time stats don’t impress me much when they don’t translate to wins. At least Dalton made a game winning drive after turning the ball over. Dak has turned the ball over this year and he didn’t make up for those turnovers in any way. Those turnovers just added to the opposing team’s blowouts.

Um what blowouts ? This team has lost by 3, 7 and 11. Unless the definition of "blowout" has changed they have yet to suffer one. Dak has thrown 4 INTs and had what? 2 fumbles. He has thrown 9 TDs, run for 3 and caught 1. So he has accounted for 13 against 6. Seems like he's more than made up for the turnovers. Also if I'm not mistaken after his pick six on Sunday didn't Dak lead the team on 3 consecutive TD drives? What more would you have liked for him to do to "make up for the turnover?"
 

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Lol. Dak's the franchise quarterback for years to come. Hypothetically speaking, should Dalton take this team to the promised land, he'll just be another Foles.

Neither is going to happen. No chance Dallas wins the Super Bowl this year. If they did, Prescott would be playing for another team in 2021.
 

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I agree.. I think this team will win 6 or 7 more games with Dalton at the helm. It will be look different but I think it can be done. Dak was covering up a lot of warts by bringing the team back from the defense bending over and taking it from behind from the other team's offense. He was also shaking off and running out of a lot of would be sacks. I don't think it would be fair to ask Dalton to do that so I think they have to adjust the gameplan (as they should have been doing anyway) to feature more Zeke and less dropping back. Keep the game close, keep the defense as fresh as you can and then let your playmakers win it for you in the 4th quarter. I think that formula can get us to 10 wins. But if the defense remains at the historically bad level it has been playing at, AND the coaches continue to think running a fastbreak offense is the way to overcome it, it will be more like 6 wins.
Dak wasn't covering up anything. To be honest him and Zeke were aiding in the defense looking even worse by turning the ball over like its nothing. The only thing he might have been covering was fantasy players w/l records with them inflated stats
 

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Do you believe everything everybody says or just things that push forward your narrative? Thanks for the answer on the franchise tag and trades though.




When the same 3 people keep saying the same thing it's pretty tough not to believe what they are saying. I'll ask you the same question. Do you not believe what's being said because it goes against what you think?
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Can they sign Dalton to an extension? Then trade him if he does well..at least we get a nice draft pick or something. Because the Jonses are in love with Dak and will be married very soon.
 

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When the same 3 people keep saying the same thing it's pretty tough not to believe what they are saying. I'll ask you the same question. Do you not believe what's being said because it goes against what you think?
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Trying to be snarky isn't your strong suit. I already answered your question smh. Check the end of post 207
 

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Dak wasn't covering up anything. To be honest him and Zeke were aiding in the defense looking even worse by turning the ball over like its nothing. The only thing he might have been covering was fantasy players w/l records with them inflated stats

We will have to agree to disagree. The Cowboys have given up 56 points off turnovers this year. Even if the offense had no committed a single turnover you take that number off what our defense has surrendered they would still rank in the bottom 10 in scoring defense. We have given up 180 points already. 35 a game. If the offense wasn't putting up almost that many points per game we'd be 0-5 and we'd be looking like a lock for the Trevor Lawrence Award.
 

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If he was their QB of the future he would've been signed by now. Actions not words over here





First off contract negotiations involve more than just the Cowboys. Most people in sports blame the standstill they had this season on Prescott's agent, France, and his unwillingness to negotiated in good faith. They point to in the last hour or so Prescott was doing his negotiating himself and they agreed on the salary amount but couldn't get the guaranteed amount done. You're acting like Prescott is the first QB to get tagged and he's not. It was the only way to keep all negotiations for Prescott between them and Prescott and not allow other teams to get a crack at him. Prescott chose to bet on himself and now he's learned first hand what can happen when you do that and many feel he'll much more agreeable to a long term contract that gives him and his family some security in case another injury like this or worse happens to him again. It won't be any bargain basement deal but it definitely won't be a record breaking contract either.
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We will have to agree to disagree. The Cowboys have given up 56 points off turnovers this year. Even if the offense had no committed a single turnover you take that number off what our defense has surrendered they would still rank in the bottom 10 in scoring defense. We have given up 180 points already. 35 a game. If the offense wasn't putting up almost that many points per game we'd be 0-5 and we'd be looking like a lock for the Trevor Lawrence Award.
There is nothing to agree to disagree about. Dak and Zeke were helping in making things worse for themselves and that's a fact. Maybe if they weren't helping the D suck even more things turn out better since we using the should've, would've, could've logic on things.
 

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Trying to be snarky isn't your strong suit. I already answered your question smh. Check the end of post 207




Instead of trying to change what I asked with an answer to a different question try answering the question of do you not believe what's being said because it goes against what you think. BTW, I answer you 207 comment in the 230 comment.
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I don't think it is fair to judge ANYONE's play on offense with this train-wreck of a defense and how much it has to make the Offense press every week. Anyone who plays QB is going to be expected to be Superman/Jesus/whoever.
 

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First off contract negotiations involve more than just the Cowboys. Most people in sports blame the standstill they had this season on Prescott's agent, France, and his unwillingness to negotiated in good faith. They point to in the last hour or so Prescott was doing his negotiating himself and they agreed on the salary amount but couldn't get the guaranteed amount done. You're acting like Prescott is the first QB to get tagged and he's not. It was the only way to keep all negotiations for Prescott between them and Prescott and not allow other teams to get a crack at him. Prescott chose to bet on himself and now he's learned first hand what can happen when you do that and many feel he'll much more agreeable to a long term contract that gives him and his family some security in case another injury like this or worse happens to him again. It won't be any bargain basement deal but it definitely won't be a record breaking contract either.
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Yeah I don't care about all that. I said if the Joneses were that sold on Dak they would've signed him period. You think if Mahommes was the QB he would've got franchised? Not many qb's actually played on the franchise tag my man. Only two until Dak have actually played on the tag and we know what happened in both those cases.
 

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First off contract negotiations involve more than just the Cowboys. Most people in sports blame the standstill they had this season on Prescott's agent, France, and his unwillingness to negotiated in good faith. They point to in the last hour or so Prescott was doing his negotiating himself and they agreed on the salary amount but couldn't get the guaranteed amount done. You're acting like Prescott is the first QB to get tagged and he's not. It was the only way to keep all negotiations for Prescott between them and Prescott and not allow other teams to get a crack at him. Prescott chose to bet on himself and now he's learned first hand what can happen when you do that and many feel he'll much more agreeable to a long term contract that gives him and his family some security in case another injury like this or worse happens to him again. It won't be any bargain basement deal but it definitely won't be a record breaking contract either.
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Dak will pocket 31 million dollar this season and collect on whatever insurance policy he had with Lloyd's of London if he never plays again. His family is set. Dak not only never has to play another down in the NFL but he never has to work another day in his life after what he will earn this year. You are correct though that his agent screwed up the negotiations with the Joneses. The Joneses are really proud really rich people and they will be really proud and really rich whether Dak signed or not. So there was little or nothing to be gained by playing games with them the way the agent did. Especially if the reports are true that they had agreed on a deal and then the agent reneged on it at the 11th hour. It would be fitting if Dak fired his *** BEFORE signing his long term deal so he collects zero, zilch, nada in commission on it.
 

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Instead of trying to change what I asked with an answer to a different question try answering the question of do you not believe what's being said because it goes against what you think. BTW, I answer you 207 comment in the 230 comment.
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Are you an esol student? None of what you're saying makes sense. Speak to me in your native language and I'll google translate because English isn't your strong suit either smh. That was the answer Zo. If the Cowboys really believed the words they were saying he'd be signed.
 

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Dak will pocket 31 million dollar this season and collect on whatever insurance policy he had with Lloyd's of London if he never plays again. His family is set. Dak not only never has to play another down in the NFL but he never has to work another day in his life after what he will earn this year. You are correct though that his agent screwed up the negotiations with the Joneses. The Joneses are really proud really rich people and they will be really proud and really rich whether Dak signed or not. So there was little or nothing to be gained by playing games with them the way the agent did. Especially if the reports are true that they had agreed on a deal and then the agent reneged on it at the 11th hour. It would be fitting if Dak fired his *** BEFORE signing his long term deal so he collects zero, zilch, nada in commission on it.
he already fired the agent a few months ago.
 

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There is nothing to agree to disagree about. Dak and Zeke were helping in making things worse for themselves and that's a fact. Maybe if they weren't helping the D suck even more things turn out better since we using the should've, would've, could've logic on things.

This defense doesn't need any help sucking. The only thing the turnovers did was shorten the amount of yardage they gave up. Even without the turnovers they would still be giving up almost 25 ppg. Let that sink in for moment. Take away the 56 points off turnovers and this is still a 25 ppg defense. Who's jumping up and down about that?
 

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This defense doesn't need any help sucking. The only thing the turnovers did was shorten the amount of yardage they gave up. Even without the turnovers they would still be giving up almost 25 ppg. Let that sink in for moment. Take away the 56 points off turnovers and this is still a 25 ppg defense. Who's jumping up and down about that?
Nobody is but I'm just saying the obvious that Dak and Zeke were helping make a sorry D look even worse.
 
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