Opinion: Next year's DC is Mike Zimmer

[KingintheNorth]

..Mike Zimmer.


Because I'm pretty sure he's getting fired.

For the record, I still want Gus Bradley, but would be thrilled with Zimmer.

 

[Verdict]

..Mike Zimmer.


Because I'm pretty sure he's getting fired.

For the record, I still want Gus Bradley, but would be thrilled with Zimmer.

Zim may not be that great of a hire.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Ill pass

 

[Majic]

Doubt Zimmer would want to come back. Wasn't interested in replacing Garrett at all. He could well be in contention in Detroit.

I'll go for Mike Nolan

 

[KingintheNorth]

Zim may not be that great of a hire.

Is he better than Mike Nolan?


Personally, some guys are just better in coordinator roles. Wade Phillips? Awful HC, decent DC. Norv Turner? Meh HC, pretty solid OC. Zimmer could be in that boat.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Ill pass

Just like opposing QBs on the current defense.

Whenever they want.

 

[visionary]

Too passive
I want an aggressive young coordinator

 

[Parcells4Life]

..Mike Zimmer.


Because I'm pretty sure he's getting fired.

For the record, I still want Gus Bradley, but would be thrilled with Zimmer.

It will be Mike Nolan. You can’t accurately evaluate him with half the starters out plus no offseason.

 

[JayFord]

I prefer to see if Brett Venables wants to be our DC

 

[KingintheNorth]

I prefer to see if Brett Venables wants to be our DC

Oh me too.

That would require the Jones buying into "coaching".

They've spent that last 25 years trying to (wrongly) prove that coaching doesn't matter.

 

[Verdict]

Is he better than Mike Nolan?


Personally, some guys are just better in coordinator roles. Wade Phillips? Awful HC, decent DC. Norv Turner? Meh HC, pretty solid OC. Zimmer could be in that boat.

Maybe. I just get the feeling that Zimmer doesn’t have the same level of energy as he did when he was with the Cowboys. I don’t think the “will” is there. I would rather go with a young guy who is a prodigy.

A Sean Lee type of guy might do wonders as a true coach. Great mind. look at what the Tennessee head coach is doing for that team. (Vrabel)

McVay lit it up as a young coach. We need a guy who has the energy to turn this defense around.

 

[KingintheNorth]

It will be Mike Nolan. You can’t accurately evaluate him with half the starters out plus no offseason.

The NFL has accurately evaluated Mike Nolan the past 12 years or so.

 

[Verdict]

Oh me too.

That would require the Jones buying into "coaching".

They've spent that last 25 years to (wrong;y) prove that coaching doesn't matter.

Sooners let the wrong assistant leave. Lol.

 

[cowboyec]

mike nolan.
shortened off-season did us no favors.

 

[Hagman]

Mike Nolan. And the year after that, and the year after that. High level performance is not a big deal here.

 

[Parcells4Life]

The NFL has accurately evaluated Mike Nolan the past 12 years or so.

He wasn’t hired to give us a top 5 defense. He was hired to get more pressure and turnovers which give the high powered offense more chances to score.

The NFL has evaluated under those 2 statistics to be very good most years

 

[KingintheNorth]

I would rather go with a young guy who is a prodigy.

I love that type of thinking.

Unfortunately, those guys don't exist. The "brilliant minds" in football have all shifted towards the offense and the advantages that the game and rules have shifted to.

It's coming though, it's always cyclical. I just don't think we're there yet.

Which is why I'd go with Venables if I could get whoever I wanted.

One, he's the intense leader this defense needs.

Two, he's very good at his job.

Two B, no one has more experience game planning and adjusting to the wide variety of spread offense concepts. Venables is old-school tough and (fundamentally) sound, but still able to play chess with modern offenses.

 

[Centex]

I prefer to see if Brett Venables wants to be our DC

I like the way you talk.

 

[KingintheNorth]

He wasn’t hired to give us a top 5 defense. He was hired to get more pressure and turnovers which give the high powered offense more chances to score.

He's not that guy.

Also, he was hired because of his relationship with McCarthy.No one had given him a DC job since 2014. This league is desperate for competent DC's and he was available that whole time.

 

[Verdict]

I love that type of thinking.

Unfortunately, those guys don't exist. The "brilliant minds" in football have all shifted towards the offense and the advantages that the game and rules have shifted to.

It's coming though, it's always cyclical. I just don't think we're there yet.

Which is why I'd go with Venables if I could get whoever I wanted.

One, he's the intense leader this defense needs.

Two, he's very good at his job.

Two B, no one has more experience game planning and adjusting to the wide variety of spread offense concepts. Venables is old-school tough and (fundamentally) sound, but still able to play chess with modern offenses.

I wouldn’t object to that path. I think it would be better than Zimmer.

Another advantage to bringing in new blood from the college ranks is they tend to know the talent in the pool someone else might miss.