Jalen Ramsey and Derrick Henry vs Zeke and Jaylon Smith

[Proof]

Really? Why is he rated higher in almost every statistical category?

Expound and support?

 

[Zordon]

lol Henry has been very impressive the last two years, but it’s easier to get better when you start off poorly. And it’s harder to get better when you start out incredible.

I know a lot of people in DFW nightlife. The oaf stays in the bar, is known for not tipping, and trying to take other people's women (which leads to skirmishes). His lifestyle is why he can't hit that second gear anymore.

 

[Ranching]

But the question is why would you be dumb enough to not ask her out and settle for a dog instead?

Dogs put out

 

[StuckMojo]

Henry would have been winning rushing titles here starting in 2016 behind our line because he wouldn’t have been drafted to back up a high priced Murray. Hell, he may have 4 rushing titles in a row here.

I don’t think he would in Moore’s running scheme and I’m a fan of Henry.

 

[stilltheguru]

Doing his part in helping other teams, not showing up in big games or not playing like he should for the money he demanded?

Lol ok bro. I just find it funny how i never hear titans oline props. Anytime a back outside of dallas does good its them. Emmitt and Zeke iTs Da OlInE

 

[aria]

Cowboys oline sucks
They have been throwing all year

If you actually watch the titans, the holes are huge, and the run scheme is really good.

Cowboys is rated #3 against the rush this year and while TN has had a good O line for years, the Cowboys have always been better.

Who cares if they’ve been throwing? When the RB can’t do anything without holes I could drive a semi through, is dropping the ball, slipping, can’t make people miss and is averaging ~2.5 ypc in that specific game what do you want them to do?

I never heard Barkley or any other top RB’s get excuses for not having the rushing title (ie best RB in the league) because of play calling.

 

[aria]

Expound and support?

Done it 1K times, apologies if you are one of the many who have refused to read the links and stats I’ve provided ad nauseum.

 

[aria]

Dogs put out

Mmmmmm...but I’ve heard they don’t taste that good? At least that’s what a Korean Vet told me.

 

[Proof]

Done it 1K times, apologies if you are one of the many who have refused to read the links and stats I’ve provided ad nauseum.

get over yourself. I’ve never refused to read anything, I just don’t particularly recall. And if you’ve done it a thousand times you should have it handy. Because my limited research doesn’t tell the same story, aside from ypc.

 

[Aviano90]

Gossip


get over yourself. I’ve never refused to read anything, I just don’t particularly recall. And if you’ve done it a thousand times you should have it handy. Because my limited research doesn’t tell the same story, aside from ypc.

Yes, @aria please post again. I would like to bookmark it too.

 

[BermyStar]

In hindsight... every team in the NFL passed on Tom Brady more than once....including the Pats

 

[aria]

Lol ok bro. I just find it funny how i never hear titans oline props. Anytime a back outside of dallas does good its them. Emmitt and Zeke iTs Da OlInE

Nope, I’ve brought it up several times and whenever I brought up that Barkley had one of the worst lines in the league his rookie year, and sophmore year, yet put up identical and/or better stats than zeke the zeke fan boys would never acknowledge that.

If I go back to 2017 and show you both their stats, along with their O line rankings, will you admit that Barkley was a better RB? Same with 2018? No, you won’t, I didn’t think so.

I’ve been saying year after year that zeke has had a top 5 O line in the league and if he didn’t he wouldn’t have near the success whereas there’s other RB’s with much worse O line putting up better or equivalent stats and they don’t get the “their O line sucks” excuse. Why is that?

Zeke falls short in several areas that are independent of the O line and now he’s being exposed when he doesn’t have top 5 blocking every game. Some of us have been trying to tell you zeke homers this all along and gave stats to prove it but you claimed the stats were bogus and gave more excuses.

I’m sure zeke will still have some big games, as do 4th round RB’s but no RB is worth what we used on him in the draft and certainly not what we paid him. We were 8-8 with him last year, he has been a non difference maker, except giving the other team 7 points on two occasions from fumbles, this entire season. He’s done nothing that 90% of NFL RB’s wouldn’t have done and a lot of them would have done better.

 

[aria]

get over yourself. I’ve never refused to read anything, I just don’t particularly recall. And if you’ve done it a thousand times you should have it handy. Because my limited research doesn’t tell the same story, aside from ypc.

What exactly do you want to know? How he’s not nearly as good at short yard situations? What about elusiveness? What about broken tackles, missed tackles forced, yards after catch, yards after contact? Most of what I’m referring to goes back to 2017- current because I’ve never denied his 2016 year.

 

[Aviano90]

In hindsight... every team in the NFL passed on Tom Brady more than once....including the Pats

True but we should all be able to use that hindsight and admit it was a mistake. Wouldn’t solve anything but no football discussion does.

 

[ultron]

Ramsey isn’t even with the team that drafted him so who knows what he would’ve acted like here. Zeke should have 3 rushing titles (he missed 6 games his 2nd year due to suspension; we were 3-3 without him and 7-3 with him that season btw). He finished that year 5th or 6th in rushing and had the highest ypg of his career that year.

We essentially stopped doing what was successful after his 3rd season (in which he won his 2nd rushing title).

Zeke in that Titans offense probably would’ve won them a Super Bowl last season.

I don’t think Ramsey is nearly as good as people think. Gallup torched him several times when we played and Jalen got away with a terrible P.I. no-call that could’ve potentially won us the game.

I don’t think Derek Henry would have much success in this offense and I don’t think he’s a better RB than Dak.

Jaylon Smith is a statistic anomaly. His numbers on paper match Luke Kuechley’s numbers but he always seems out of place or ‘running into blockers’. It’s tough to say, but all 4 guys have gone to at least 1 pro bowl.

 

[stilltheguru]

Thats too much typing fam lol

Nope, I’ve brought it up several times and whenever I brought up that Barkley had one of the worst lines in the league his rookie year, and sophmore year, yet put up identical and/or better stats than zeke the zeke fan boys would never acknowledge that.

If I go back to 2017 and show you both their stats, along with their O line rankings, will you admit that Barkley was a better RB? Same with 2018? No, you won’t, I didn’t think so.

I’ve been saying year after year that zeke has had a top 5 O line in the league and if he didn’t he wouldn’t have near the success whereas there’s other RB’s with much worse O line putting up better or equivalent stats and they don’t get the “their O line sucks” excuse. Why is that?

Zeke falls short in several areas that are independent of the O line and now he’s being exposed when he doesn’t have top 5 blocking every game. Some of us have been trying to tell you zeke homers this all along and gave stats to prove it but you claimed the stats were bogus and gave more excuses.

I’m sure zeke will still have some big games, as do 4th round RB’s but no RB is worth what we used on him in the draft and certainly not what we paid him. We were 8-8 with him last year, he has been a non difference maker, except giving the other team 7 points on two occasions from fumbles, this entire season. He’s done nothing that 90% of NFL RB’s wouldn’t have done and a lot of them would have done better.

 

[aria]

True but we should all be able to use that hindsight and admit it was a mistake. Wouldn’t solve anything but no football discussion does.

My question is when has picking a RB in the top 10 of the draft, let alone, the top 5 and giving him a huge extension every paid off in the modern football era?

With a good O line, RB’s are a dime a dozen. 1 rushing leader in the past 20 years has won a Super Bowl. Championship teams have constantly won with old vets, 2nd round or lower draft picks, even UFA’s. Gurley went down and CJ Anderson didn’t miss a beat. IMOF, CJ Anderson punked zeke in the playoffs. The Eagles won with Ajayi, a “washed up” vet. The Rams beat us this year with an UFA. The list goes on...RB’s in todays game are expendable and Jerrah is trying to relive the early 90’s.

 

[aria]

Thats too much typing fam lol

So in other words, it’s beyond you and/or you don’t want to acknowledge what I said with a rebuttal based on facts. This is the exact same reaction I get from all of you zeke panty sniffers whenever I present facts you can’t dispute because you have nothing!

 

[stilltheguru]

My question is when has picking a RB in the top 10 of the draft, let alone, the top 5 and giving him a huge extension every paid off in the modern football era?

With a good O line, RB’s are a dime a dozen. 1 rushing leader in the past 20 years has won a Super Bowl. Championship teams have constantly won with old vets, 2nd round or lower draft picks, even UFA’s. Gurley went down and CJ Anderson didn’t miss a beat. IMOF, CJ Anderson punked zeke in the playoffs. The Eagles won with Ajayi, a “washed up” vet. The Rams beat us this year with an UFA. The list goes on...RB’s in todays game are expendable and Jerrah is trying to relive the early 90’s.

When Zekes cap hit is lower he will be cut, calm down and just wait

 

[Direwolf63]

When was the last time Zeke did this? @aria do you know?

When be was at Ohio State?