Would Cowboys trade Amari Cooper?

[HungryLion]

Ok, then explain why he was off the field on the critical 4th down play last year in Philly?

Why did he basically make all the game winning plays against the eagles in the season prior with the division on the line? Can you explain that

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Chris Johnson ran 4.24 forty at the combine. So I guess he's not like Johnson, silly comparison. And Zeke had ability for 3 years then lost it? At age 25?

Didn't say he needed 4 Pro Bowlers, he had zero the last game, and only 1 starter, who probably shouldn't even be starting. But other than perhaps Barry Sanders no back is doing much with this line, there simply aren't holes to run through most times. I remember back in the Emmitt days he went 2-3 yards before he was even touched. If you want a comparison, just look at the Cowboys SB XXX game, after one good run, Emmitt was shut down running the ball the rest of the game, the Steelers made a concerted effort to be sure Emmitt didn't beat them. Well he didn't, but Irvin, Novacek et al and the two Larry Brown interceptions did. No holes, the running game is going no where.

But that's fine, cut Zeke and when he goes for 1,800 yards with a team that has a good offensive line, what will people say?

Oops, we goofed? Small consolation..

I don’t get rid of guys in fear of what they will do for other teams.

 

[Shane612]

They should trade whomever....if they can.
Nobody on this team is worth their contract. NOBODY, Including Dak Prescott.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I don’t get rid of guys in fear of what they will do for other teams.

I can understand that, it's just not me....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They should trade whomever....if they can.
Nobody on this team is worth their contract. NOBODY, Including Dak Prescott.

Dak’s contract is up after this season so you don’t have to worry about him.

 

[Stash]

They should trade whomever....if they can.
Nobody on this team is worth their contract. NOBODY, Including Dak Prescott.

Dak was the only guy that was earning his money.

If you want to be mad about the money quarterbacks are making, be mad at the system, and the quarterback market.

 

[Bobhaze]

From PFT, I thought this might make for some good conversation and debate:

The Cowboys seem to be in fire sale mode, particularly in the midst of a “this is fine” fire on the defensive side of the ball. Here’s the question: Would they trade offensive players, too?

There’s one name to wonder about as the trade deadline approaches, in our view. Receiver Amari Cooper.

Yes, the Cowboys gave up a first-round pick to get him two years ago. Yes, they gave him a new contract after the 2019 season ended.

But consider these facts. First, CeeDee Lamb fell into their laps after Cooper re-signed. Second, Michael Gallup is signed through 2021 to a bargain-basement rookie deal. Third, Cedrick Wilson is pretty damn good. Fourth, with Dak gone for the rest of the season, Cooper becomes a luxury the Cowboys don’t need.

Even though Cooper signed a five-year, $100 million contract, it’s really a two-year, $40 million deal. If someone would offer them a first-rounder for Cooper right now (last year, Mohamed Sanu brought in a second-round pick at the deadline), the Cowboys would be crazy to say no.

“But what about the cap consequences?” you may ask. Trading Cooper would trigger an $8 million charge in 2021, but it would be offset by avoiding $20 million in cash and cap space — creating a $12 million net-cap gain for the Cowboys in 2021.

So any contending team out there looking for a high-end receiver (like the Packers), the window could be open to snatch Cooper from the Cowboys.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/28/would-cowboys-trade-amari-cooper/

If there's a team out there that would take Coop and his contract, we should do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Jerry is one of the only ones trading big draft capital for a WR.

 

[Bobhaze]

If the cowboys are going for a complete rebuild then yes. Lamb is a rookie, Gallup has not emerged as a true #1 reciever as most thought he would.

First round pick nothing else

I respectfully disagree. First of all, almsot no one except Jerry gives up first round picks for a WR. At least ones that still have a GM job. Secondly, the term "#1 Wide Receiver" is very outdated IMO. Most contenders nowadays just have 3 quality WRs to spread it around. You don't have to have a stud to be effective.

 

[Stash]

If there's a team out there that would take Coop and his contract, we should do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Jerry is one of the only ones trading big draft capital for a WR.

Very true, but I think someone mentioned Green Bay, and their GM has been much more aggressive than the past one. I'm going to take a look at teams' cap situations and see who can actually afford to take on a contract like this, even if they wanted to.

Looks to me like Cleveland, the Jets, New England, Tennessee, Washington, Detroit, and Chicago could probably handle it if they wanted to.

Of that group, I see two GM's and coaches that might feel the desperation to do it in Chicago and Detroit. But then you have to wonder if ownership would allow it?

Tennessee is a contender, they might. Washington did have interest before, maybe they think they can win the East?

Who knows? I think the odds of someone offering a 1st round pick are slim.

 

[lk8701]

If there's a team out there that would take Coop and his contract, we should do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Jerry is one of the only ones trading big draft capital for a WR.

2017: The Saints trade Cooks to the Patriots for a first- and third-round pick

2018: The Patriots trade Cooks to the Rams for a first- and sixth-round pick

2020: The Rams trade Cooks to the Texans for a 2020 second-round pick

Amari is way better than Cooks. I would expect at least 1st and 3rd round picks.

 

[Stash]

2017: The Saints trade Cooks to the Patriots for a first- and third-round pick

2018: The Patriots trade Cooks to the Rams for a first- and sixth-round pick

2020: The Rams trade Cooks to the Texans for a 2020 second-round pick

Amari is way better than Cooks. I would expect at least 1st and 3rd round picks.

We got him for a 1st rounder and now he comes with a $20 million a year contract. If we get just a 1st round pick we'd be lucky.

 

[phildadon86]

Ok, then explain why he was off the field on the critical 4th down play last year in Philly?

Sanjay pulled him. Garrett has already told us this. You guys act like the players ask to be subbed out. I remember people saying "oh zeke wanted out of the game" Pollard fumbled immediately after that. Zeke was out because he took a hit to the head. lol. You guys act like you're on the field. You arent.

 

[Runwildboys]

From PFT, I thought this might make for some good conversation and debate:

The Cowboys seem to be in fire sale mode, particularly in the midst of a “this is fine” fire on the defensive side of the ball. Here’s the question: Would they trade offensive players, too?

There’s one name to wonder about as the trade deadline approaches, in our view. Receiver Amari Cooper.

Yes, the Cowboys gave up a first-round pick to get him two years ago. Yes, they gave him a new contract after the 2019 season ended.

But consider these facts. First, CeeDee Lamb fell into their laps after Cooper re-signed. Second, Michael Gallup is signed through 2021 to a bargain-basement rookie deal. Third, Cedrick Wilson is pretty damn good. Fourth, with Dak gone for the rest of the season, Cooper becomes a luxury the Cowboys don’t need.

Even though Cooper signed a five-year, $100 million contract, it’s really a two-year, $40 million deal. If someone would offer them a first-rounder for Cooper right now (last year, Mohamed Sanu brought in a second-round pick at the deadline), the Cowboys would be crazy to say no.

“But what about the cap consequences?” you may ask. Trading Cooper would trigger an $8 million charge in 2021, but it would be offset by avoiding $20 million in cash and cap space — creating a $12 million net-cap gain for the Cowboys in 2021.

So any contending team out there looking for a high-end receiver (like the Packers), the window could be open to snatch Cooper from the Cowboys.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/28/would-cowboys-trade-amari-cooper/

I very much doubt anyone would give up a 1st for him, but if we threw in Jaylon and our first two picks next year, maybe they'd go for it.

 

[Stash]

I very much doubt anyone would give up a 1st for him, but if we threw in Jaylon and our first two picks next year, maybe they'd go for it.

You drive a hard bargain!

 

[atlantacowboy]

From PFT, I thought this might make for some good conversation and debate:

The Cowboys seem to be in fire sale mode, particularly in the midst of a “this is fine” fire on the defensive side of the ball. Here’s the question: Would they trade offensive players, too?

There’s one name to wonder about as the trade deadline approaches, in our view. Receiver Amari Cooper.

Yes, the Cowboys gave up a first-round pick to get him two years ago. Yes, they gave him a new contract after the 2019 season ended.

But consider these facts. First, CeeDee Lamb fell into their laps after Cooper re-signed. Second, Michael Gallup is signed through 2021 to a bargain-basement rookie deal. Third, Cedrick Wilson is pretty damn good. Fourth, with Dak gone for the rest of the season, Cooper becomes a luxury the Cowboys don’t need.

Even though Cooper signed a five-year, $100 million contract, it’s really a two-year, $40 million deal. If someone would offer them a first-rounder for Cooper right now (last year, Mohamed Sanu brought in a second-round pick at the deadline), the Cowboys would be crazy to say no.

“But what about the cap consequences?” you may ask. Trading Cooper would trigger an $8 million charge in 2021, but it would be offset by avoiding $20 million in cash and cap space — creating a $12 million net-cap gain for the Cowboys in 2021.

So any contending team out there looking for a high-end receiver (like the Packers), the window could be open to snatch Cooper from the Cowboys.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/28/would-cowboys-trade-amari-cooper/

I wish they were in fire sale mode. We are just loaded with young, unproven DE's and Everson was taking reps from them without distinguishing himself.

 

[Bobhaze]

2017: The Saints trade Cooks to the Patriots for a first- and third-round pick

2018: The Patriots trade Cooks to the Rams for a first- and sixth-round pick

2020: The Rams trade Cooks to the Texans for a 2020 second-round pick

Amari is way better than Cooks. I would expect at least 1st and 3rd round picks.

Since 2000, there have only been 10 trades involving a WR in exchange for a first round pick or more. Jerry Jones was involved in three of them, giving up a total of FOUR first round picks, 2 third rounders and a sixth rounder in exchange for 3 WRs- Joey Galloway in 2000, Roy Williams in 2008, and Amari Cooper in 2018. The Cowboys teams those players played on have a total of two playoff wins.

Yeah I guess it could happen, but I have serious doubts.

 

[Adreme]

I'd have to get that 1st rounder. Like the article says, even Muhamad Sanu got a 2nd round pick last year.

Yes and that turned out to be a bad trade. Meanwhile a much much better WR was also worth a 2nd rounder so really you are worth what people are willing to pay and no one would be willing to give up a 2nd for a 20m WR who is not putting up 20m numbers.

 

[Adreme]

I just can't see a team willing to give up a first. I've seen the Packers mentioned, but they have only 3 mil in cap space for 2021 as is, per OTC.

Ravens could afford him. So maybe that's a team to look at. But are they desperate enough to ship a 1st?

I just OTC on the Ravens and they have less than a million in cap space and next year have a LOT of contracts to pay out (their LT who is going to be a 20m dollar player, their TE who is going to be a 15m player, and they may try to sign LJ early), so I have no clue why they would suddenly have the cap space to drop 20m on a WR.

 

[kskboys]

Yes and that turned out to be a bad trade. Meanwhile a much much better WR was also worth a 2nd rounder so really you are worth what people are willing to pay and no one would be willing to give up a 2nd for a 20m WR who is not putting up 20m numbers.

Maybe.

Don't forget, everyone knew Hopkins was worth much more, and BOB got bashed on mercilessly for trading him for a 2nd. And then fired.

If a team believes Coop could make them a super bowl contender, you might be surprised. GB, for instance.

 

[Adreme]

Maybe.

Don't forget, everyone knew Hopkins was worth much more, and BOB got bashed on mercilessly for trading him for a 2nd. And then fired.

If a team believes Coop could make them a super bowl contender, you might be surprised. GB, for instance.

Except Amari has a contract that is basically that contract and is a far worse player. There is NO GM who would keep his job after offering a 1st for Amari. I cant see any decent team offering a 2nd. MAYBE you get a 3rd from a winning team so a low 3rd but that is about his value right now.

That contract he signed was a MASSIVE outlier in terms of WR contracts. On the open market he probably gets about 15m a year considering the WR class last year and this year. There is no sound reason to try to trade for a big money WR (especially when most of the competitive teams do not really have space to do so anyway).