Do you despise Jerry Jones?

[kskboys]

His ego is a motivating factor, but if you don't think he wants his team to be successful we can agree to disagree. Not like any of us can say definitively what his passions and desires are.

So I should have said "I think his passions and desires are in the right place"

Jerry knows he is a bad GM and has stated so publicly. How in the world can you equate this to wanting to win?

And we sorta can. He's made it known beyond any doubt that he's not interested in winning unless he can be GM. He's like a little kid refusing to share his toys.

 

[Diehardblues]

His ego is a motivating factor, but if you don't think he wants his team to be successful we can agree to disagree. Not like any of us can say definitively what his passions and desires are.

So I should have said "I think his passions and desires are in the right place"

But they aren’t In the right place if it includes him Remaining as GM. And others in FO.

Yes, he wants to win more than anyone but not enough to get out of the way.

Jerry isn’t interested in winning if he’s not involved or in place to take some of the credit.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

No, I like Jerry. Yes, he makes mistakes just like all other GMs. Like other GMs he has his successes.

Only two times I was upset with Jerry in 31 years. First time was when his fighting with Jimmy led to the two parting ways. The second time was when he did not draft Randy Moss.

Any and every person and decision associated with the Cowboys is under a microscope 24/7/365.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry knows he is a bad GM and has stated so publicly. How in the world can you equate this to wanting to win?

And we sorta can. He's made it known beyond any doubt that he's not interested in winning unless he can be GM. He's like a little kid refusing to share his toys.

Right . Jerry won’t let you play with his ball unless he can play. And we have fans who say they’d do the same.

My money is he’d sell the team before he’d step down if he was forced to make a decision.

 

[unionjack8]

YES , AND HIS SON

 

[Kaiser]

This is a popular idea, and maybe it's true, but I don't know if that's a certainty. Jerry has never proven to be a guy to take a back seat, and I can't imagine he isn't still strongly inclined to play with his toy.

I don't think he is playing, he is just a guy completely incapable of being away from TV cameras even if the toy is being run by someone else. My reaction to this stuff is that if Will McClay isn't the real GM and isn't doing anything, why do other teams keep trying to hire him away for GM jobs?

 

[Diehardblues]

Will McClay job is finding talent not making final decisions on player personnel. Will has been pursued by other teams because he’s a proven talent scout.

We really don’t know how he’d do if given the final decision on player personnel. But if you’re suggesting he is already then he should be fired too.

 

[HotDog37]

Obviously JJ is a wildly successful business man. Don't like him as a GM though because I think he strips the HC authority for the most part. I would like to see what a different owner could do with a real football oriented GM. Not happening though.

 

[fivetwos]

I was actually alone in a room with the guy once for about 10 minutes.

Not kidding and dont go getting cute some of you.

It was in the press box at Soldier Field before a preseason game in 93. Way before kickoff. No one else around, not even PR staff.

He called into a radio show. I had no issue with him at the time, although the main topic was the Emmitt holdout, which didnt bother me.

Same deal now, I would probably shamelessly take a swing at the old man and turn myself in.

 

[Diehardblues]

My hunch is after 20 years with Jerry he’s very loyal and they are paying him well. He’s able to do what he loves the most. Scouting talent without the ultimate responsibility of his fate determined by the success of the team as the GM.

VP of Personnel is the same position of Gil Brandt not Tex Schramm. I’m not sure fans understand the difference and why Will isn’t interested in a GM position.

 

[OmerV]

Yep

We know that our owner is influenced by those around him but he still makes final decisions. Remember what Parcells said” have to convince Jerry to go against his instincts”.

In either case whoever has been making the decisions or influencing them, they all need to go. Clean sweep.

This is how I see it. I think it's obvious Jerry is giving more weight to the input of others than he once did, but I still think he makes the final call, and it takes a pretty convincing argument by others to get him to go against what he thinks is the way to go.

 

[kskboys]

This is how I see it. I think it's obvious Jerry is giving more weight to the input of others than he once did, but I still think he makes the final call, and it takes a pretty convincing argument by others to get him to go against what he thinks is the way to go.

Manziel thinks so.

 

[garyv]

Curious to get other’s takes. In the beginning I loved Jerry Jones. He was brash. He hired Jimmy Johnson. He acted like he would do anything to win. Firing Jimmy was the beginning of my hate for the guy. He seemed like a complete narcissist. A string of bad hirings and the franchise was in the toilet. I started to feel better with the Parcells hiring. I thought Jerry may have learned his lesson and was back to being serious. We now know that was a publicity stunt to get his stadium built. His hubris really took off. I hated the Garrett hire. It made no sense. The guy hadn’t exhibited anything that would suggest he would be a great HC. Jerry jammed Garrett and his nonsense down fans throats for 10 years. I liked the McCarthy hire but he wouldn’t have been my first choice. I wanted a lunatic taskmaster like Meyer to shake this lazy culture up. Now it seems like the place is finally imploding. I pity Mike McCarthy. This is not his fault.

I do not differentiate between Jerry the GM and Jerry the owner. The are codependent and both suck. I also don’t buy the Jerry is a nice guy bit.

Count me in the I despise Jerry group.

Where are you guys?

Not as an Owner but yes as a GM

 

[kskboys]

Not as an Owner but yes as a GM

The owner hires the GM.

 

[OmerV]

Jerry knows he is a bad GM and has stated so publicly. How in the world can you equate this to wanting to win?

And we sorta can. He's made it known beyond any doubt that he's not interested in winning unless he can be GM. He's like a little kid refusing to share his toys.

I don't know that he actually said he was a bad GM - I think what he said was that if he had another GM he would have fired him. I know that's a pretty fine distinction, but it leaves room for him to believe that he might have grown impatient with another guy, but that in his case he believes some things weren't his fault and that the results are going to get better.

 

[OmerV]

Manziel thinks so.

I'm happy Jerry was talked out of that move.

 

[Kaiser]

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

"Fool me twice" would have happened in the middle of the 1989 season but you start a new thread on this every week, 30 years later.

 

[TheCritic]

The thing that bothers me about Jerry Jones is that after buying the Cowboys in 1989 and hitting a home run with Jimmy Johnson, who was at the time the best college head coach and had the pulse of college talent going into the NFL...then spends the next 25 or years hiring NFL retreads and has-beens for head coaches. Why in the last 25 years has Jerry not taken a shot on another up and coming college coach? I don't get it.

 

[zerofill]

I don't despise Jerry the businessman. Some of the creative ways he has other assets wrapped up in this organization, is actually really intelligent.

He just doesn't know:

1) How not to be friends with players. (Which I would expect him to be more like... business is business).
2) How to actually be a good GM.
3) How to know when to quit, and get the right people in place. (GM)

 

[tico]

If only we Can we be as lucky as the Raiders when Al was going "Ruling with a ironfist"