Early Draft Thoughts

[cnuball21]

- Bad year to be picking in the top 5ish needing blue chip defensive talent. Parsons is it.
- Great year to add an OT. A lot of solid options in the top 50 or so that can turn into quality pros.
- Good depth at CB and S. No top end, blue chippers but A LOT of guys in the top 50ish that I think can help us.
- Bad year to need a pass rusher. Most of the top prospects are tweeners or upside picks.
- Bad year to add DT help.

I'm all about BPA at position of need, positional value and taking what the draft gives you. At an early glance, it's a great year to load up on young DBs to upgrade and replace some expiring contracts and get a swing tackle that can develop into Smith's replacement (or Sewell). Will need to keep digging on DTs because I'd love to add someone in the middle who can help us against the run.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I was just saying similar things in another thread.

If we truly aren’t interested in drafting a QB, then we’d almost be better suited to finish in a Top 3 draft position to trade out with someone that needs a QB.

That said, as of today I’m still going Sewell or Parsons if we stay put.

 

[cnuball21]

I was just saying similar things in another thread.

If we truly aren’t interested in drafting a QB, then we’d almost be better suited to finish in a Top 3 draft position to trade out with someone that needs a QB.

That said, as of today I’m still going Sewell or Parsons if we stay put.

I agree. I'd be happy with Sewell, Parsons or a trade down. I'd be incredibly disappointed if we reached on a player like Rousseau or Surtain. I'm not sure Surtain is much different than Diggs as a prospect so this talk of top 10 is crazy to me. I'd need to see him run a 4.4 for me to make that pick and I think he's going to run in the 4.5s.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

I agree. I'd be happy with Sewell, Parsons or a trade down. I'd be incredibly disappointed if we reached on a player like Rousseau or Surtain. I'm not sure Surtain is much different than Diggs as a prospect so this talk of top 10 is crazy to me. I'd need to see him run a 4.4 for me to make that pick and I think he's going to run in the 4.5s.

I think we are going to be prime for a trade back scenario. The question is how far are you willing to trade back, and what compensation are you looking for in return?

 

[cnuball21]

I think we are going to be prime for a trade back scenario. The question is how far are you willing to trade back, and what compensation are you looking for in return?

Perfectly fine with that as long as the deal is right. I don't want to go too far back as I'd love to be able to continue picking early in all of the following rounds.

 

[Future]

I think we are going to be prime for a trade back scenario. The question is how far are you willing to trade back, and what compensation are you looking for in return?

I think the Wentz trade should be in the ballpark. The Browns gave up #2 and a 4th next year and received #8, #77, #100 and a first and second the next year.

If Dallas is picking third, I don't think the return is quite as good, but that's the bar I think.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

I think the Wentz trade should be in the ballpark. The Browns gave up #2 and a 4th next year and received #8, #77, #100 and a first and second the next year.

If Dallas is picking third, I don't think the return is quite as good, but that's the bar I think.

depends if we land the 2nd pick. Which is very possible. I like Fields, but if we can get a haul for it I’m all for resigning Dak and having a bunch of picks.
After this past draft I have hope in our drafting..Hope..

 

[Future]

depends if we land the 2nd pick. Which is very possible. I like Fields, but if we can get a haul for it I’m all for resigning Dak and having a bunch of picks.
After this past draft I have hope in our drafting..Hope..

I don't think there'd be a huge difference in the return of 2 vs. 3 because if teams want Lance/Wilson or whoever, they're going to have to jump NYG and WAS to make sure they get them.

The important thing is really who picks right after Dallas. The price goes way up if it is a team who might want a QB.

 

[darthseinfeld]

- Bad year to be picking in the top 5ish needing blue chip defensive talent. Parsons is it.
- Great year to add an OT. A lot of solid options in the top 50 or so that can turn into quality pros.
- Good depth at CB and S. No top end, blue chippers but A LOT of guys in the top 50ish that I think can help us.
- Bad year to need a pass rusher. Most of the top prospects are tweeners or upside picks.
- Bad year to add DT help.

I'm all about BPA at position of need, positional value and taking what the draft gives you. At an early glance, it's a great year to load up on young DBs to upgrade and replace some expiring contracts and get a swing tackle that can develop into Smith's replacement (or Sewell). Will need to keep digging on DTs because I'd love to add someone in the middle who can help us against the run.

If Barmore falls to the 2nd, then I am far more interested in him.

Right now Sewell is my target. I even think Tyron is moveable and could get us a day 2 pick. I usually hate the thought of taking LB's high, and especially that high, however Parsons skill set would be maximized in a hybrid scheme. He is the type of player that makes those schemes run. I think he is a transformative player.

I like the top 3 CB's alot more than last year. I thought there were alot of reachs in the 1st.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I was just saying similar things in another thread.

If we truly aren’t interested in drafting a QB, then we’d almost be better suited to finish in a Top 3 draft position to trade out with someone that needs a QB.

That said, as of today I’m still going Sewell or Parsons if we stay put.

Sewell is very hard for me to pass up at 3 tbh

 

[Daygoboy6191]

I don't think there'd be a huge difference in the return of 2 vs. 3 because if teams want Lance/Wilson or whoever, they're going to have to jump NYG and WAS to make sure they get them.

The important thing is really who picks right after Dallas. The price goes way up if it is a team who might want a QB.

I think there’s a substantial difference between Fields and those guys, so I think the return could be substantially different.

 

[Daygoboy6191]

Sewell is very hard for me to pass up at 3 tbh

I agree, but again it depends on the return.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I was just saying similar things in another thread.

If we truly aren’t interested in drafting a QB, then we’d almost be better suited to finish in a Top 3 draft position to trade out with someone that needs a QB.

That said, as of today I’m still going Sewell or Parsons if we stay put.

This..only Sewell is the pick at 3. Parsons is very good but with the resources we have already invested in LB, the 3rd overall pick on another one is not great salary cap utilization. The Jaylon Smith contract aka Jerry Jones Validation Tour is haunting us.


However, there's a ton of buzz that Zach Wilson may go 3rd, or even 2nd overall. That is great because it means there could be a bidding war to move up to 3 that not even Jerry & Stephen could screw up.

Too much that will happen between now and then, including us accidentally winning a few games.

 

[cnuball21]

depends if we land the 2nd pick. Which is very possible. I like Fields, but if we can get a haul for it I’m all for resigning Dak and having a bunch of picks.
After this past draft I have hope in our drafting..Hope..

I'd take Lawrence without hesitation but I'm not as high on Fields. He's a talented kid but there's way more projection with him as a pro so I'd flip him for picks in a heartbeat. Would love to stay in the top 10 if we do trade back. We'll likely still be reaching on someone but at least we'll have landed some extra picks.

 

[Bigdog]

I was just saying similar things in another thread.

If we truly aren’t interested in drafting a QB, then we’d almost be better suited to finish in a Top 3 draft position to trade out with someone that needs a QB.

That said, as of today I’m still going Sewell or Parsons if we stay put.

I agree with you but if we are drafting in top 3 I hope we will at least make an attempt to try to get Lawrence. The Jets or Jags would want a lot for him and depends on what their asking price would be I might make the trade.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I agree with you but if we are drafting in top 3 I hope we will at least make an attempt to try to get Lawrence. The Jets or Jags would want a lot for him and depends on what their asking price would be I might make the trade.

Unless there's an Elway-Baltimore or Eli Manning-San Diego type situation, no one is trading away for Trevor Lawrence. Wasting your breath calling the Jets.

 

[cnuball21]

If Barmore falls to the 2nd, then I am far more interested in him.

Right now Sewell is my target. I even think Tyron is moveable and could get us a day 2 pick. I usually hate the thought of taking LB's high, and especially that high, however Parsons skill set would be maximized in a hybrid scheme. He is the type of player that makes those schemes run. I think he is a transformative player.

I like the top 3 CB's alot more than last year. I thought there were alot of reachs in the 1st.

I agree to an extent but I’m not a big fan of the 1st round CBs. There isn’t an Okudah caliber player in this years draft.

Farley is arguably the best and he can’t tackle. I think Surtain won’t run well and Wade won’t have a lot of tape as an outside CB.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I agree to an extent but I’m not a big fan of the 1st round CBs. There isn’t an Okudah caliber player in this years draft.

Farley is arguably the best and he can’t tackle. I think Surtain won’t run well and Wade won’t have a lot of tape as an outside CB.

People had different evails on Henderson. I thought personally thought he had potential, but he wasnt as good a prospect compared to where he went. I thought there was big gulf between Okudah and Henderson. I think the top 3 this year are in between those two. Maybe Wade could be tiered closer to Henderson as there are more projections as oppose to concrete analysis. The ability to play inside is a plus for any CB, but in the top half of the 1st round, you really to know you are getting a guy that can do both. Wade is still a projection as an outside guy. Both those guys are more guys I pick in the 20's

 

[KingintheNorth]

Farley is arguably the best and he can’t tackle.

What???????????

 

[cnuball21]

People had different evails on Henderson. I thought personally thought he had potential, but he wasnt as good a prospect compared to where he went. I thought there was big gulf between Okudah and Henderson. I think the top 3 this year are in between those two. Maybe Wade could be tiered closer to Henderson as there are more projections as oppose to concrete analysis. The ability to play inside is a plus for any CB, but in the top half of the 1st round, you really to know you are getting a guy that can do both. Wade is still a projection as an outside guy. Both those guys are more guys I pick in the 20's

I agree there was a fairly good size gap between Okudah and CJ but he was still a quality 1st round CB. Elite size, length and speed and quality coverage #s in the SEC. He might've gotten drafted a few spots early but CBs are generally overdafted due to positional value.