Troy Aikman's comments on the draft last night

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then i suggest following high school football so we know who's going to be playing in college. there are enough draft analysts on television to keep us informed. kyper, mayock, et. al. then there's the couple of thousand here on the zone.

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I’ve never understood why NFL fans don’t follow College Football. How can you be informed of talent coming out for draft.

Did y’all not go to college. What football fans don’t watch College too? I’ve never known any.
I used to back in the 70's, but got bored with it. Never got back into it, I quit the nfl for awhile in 80's, but somehow got into parcells and the giants.
The SB they won 20-19 was what got me back into NFL games, and then few years later jimmy's cowboys started to win games, and that got
me back into cowboys.

There is no way a casual fan can keep up with college talent, too many teams lol. you may think your informed, but your not.
Football games are 3 hours long, so hard to watch a lot of games. I watch select nfl games, with teams I have an interest in.
That is plenty for me.
 

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Who are you Dak detractors trying to kid/fool?

Yourselves it seems like.

Have you not seen Dak's progress every year?

How about the NFL record pace he was on this year?

Here...I'll refresh your memory:



This year, Dak was on pace to obliterate Peyton Manning's record of 5,400 passing yards in a season by at least 1,200 yards!

Dak was on pace to pass for around 6,800 yards IN ONE SEASON before he went down with injury.

Think about that for a minute before you keep sounding so foolish by having your doubts about Dak as a passer and QB!
 
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Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

If you they draft a QB with the 3rd or 4th pick, then they might as well just let Dak go. By the time the draft rolls around the Cowboys will have had to have made a decision on Dak, either they franchised him or signed him long term. If they are sold on a QB in the draft then trade Dak on draft night for whatever picks someone is willing to give up, take the young QB and use the rest of the picks to build the defense. But there is no way I would want to go into 2021 with Dak and a first round pick QB on my roster unless I was certain my draft pick is going to make it and I am willing to lose Dak.

Think about it. If Dak is franchised and the Cowboys draft a QB early, Dak is never going to sign a long term deal. You better hope the young QB is not Josh Rosen, Mitch Trubisky, or some other young QB prospect who failed miserably in the NFL.

If Dak is signed to a long term deal then why draft a QB when you already have your QB signed?
 

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What makes the team better ? Pay Dak his huge salary, have far less to spend to shore up the huge number of holes elsewhere ? Draft a QB, who you will pay a fraction of Dak’s salary , let Dak walk, and spend the extra $30 mil you save on building a better team ?

I don’t know, but this team has major issues and I’m leaning towards building a better over all team, and draft a QB.
 

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Aikman was talking a lot of nonsense last night.

The ONLY way that it makes sense to draft a QB is if we tag Prescott and get a 1st for him. Otherwise, he should be extended and we don't have a need for a QB, besides a back up.
why? i mean what if they trade down get an extra first grab the targeted defender with first pick and later in the first get guy lie Trask with the extra pick? So BB , Peyton, and other coaches/gm take qbs even with a elite qb still playing under big deal

GB did it they traded back up into the first and took a QB , while Rogers has plenty of good years left..

we might be able to have our cake and eat it to if we trade down a few spots..
 

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why? i mean what if they trade down get an extra first grab the targeted defender with first pick and later in the first get guy lie Trask with the extra pick? So BB , Peyton, and other coaches/gm take qbs even with a elite qb still playing under big deal

GB did it they traded back up into the first and took a QB , while Rogers has plenty of good years left..

we might be able to have our cake and eat it to if we trade down a few spots..
We have WAY bigger needs than QB.
 

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We have WAY bigger needs than QB.
not if dak doesnt sign or holds out.. btw Rogers was upset and they needed more but didnt get it took a QB..just saying if we trade down a QB is very possible with rd 1 pick 2
 

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If there is one available at your pick that you think can be a franchise super bowl winning QB then you have to take him. 100% no question about it. That opportunity doent come around very often. You deal with sorting things out later. If you are wishy washy at all on the available QBs then no. You take the impact defender or trade down if you get an offer that still lets you get an impact defender and have extra draft capital.
Here is my issue with that overall way of thinking though. The Rams and Eagles both got the top 2 QBs available that year. The majority of us here wouldn't trade Dak for either of those guys straight up. So why invest a high pick on a QB if you have a solid one in hand? I would take the pick and parlay that into multiple picks and shore up the lines and maybe grab a solid back up QB. There is no issue with paying Dak. He's a solid QB above average QB. And QBs are expensive. The issue is paying RBs, LBs that have not produced. Get rid of those contracts draft for the lines and we're good.
 

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not if dak doesnt sign or holds out.. btw Rogers was upset and they needed more but didnt get it took a QB..just saying if we trade down a QB is very possible with rd 1 pick 2
Not the same situation at all, not sure what Green Bay situations has to do with this. Rodgers has played 16 years, of course they want to draft a QB. Dallas drafting a QB would be a mistake.
 

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draft a qb, and franchise dak.

let the qb sit behind dak, and the oline get more experienced. Dak can make a run next year, and then you have a cheap qb for 4 years, and can build the team
 

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Here is my issue with that overall way of thinking though. The Rams and Eagles both got the top 2 QBs available that year. The majority of us here wouldn't trade Dak for either of those guys straight up. So why invest a high pick on a QB if you have a solid one in hand? I would take the pick and parlay that into multiple picks and shore up the lines and maybe grab a solid back up QB. There is no issue with paying Dak. He's a solid QB above average QB. And QBs are expensive. The issue is paying RBs, LBs that have not produced. Get rid of those contracts draft for the lines and we're good.

Read the first sentence again. The draft is a crap shoot from pick #1 on so of course the QB selected with a top 5 pick may not turn out to be worth it but if, on draft day while on the clock, you have one sitting there that you believe can take you to and win a super bowl then you make the pick and let everything else sort itself out. If you aren't certain then you stick with Dak and maximize the value of that pick to improve the defense. It all comes down to what you think about the available QB. You never pass up a QB you think can win a super bowl, especially if you aren't certain the QB you have can.
 

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I’ve never understood why NFL fans don’t follow College Football. How can you be informed of talent coming out for draft.

Did y’all not go to college. What football fans don’t watch College too? I’ve never known any.

I watch some, mainly big schools since that's where most top NFL players come from. There are exceptions of course, guys like Walter Payton, Jerry Rice and Larry Allen, just to name a few.

My main problem with college ball is the scheduling, and by that I mean teams like Alabama playing teams like Podunk University, and winning 63-7 or such. Yes I know the small schools get big paydays, but even if I was an Alabama fan I wouldn't even watch the game, massive blowouts hold little attraction for me....
 

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draft a qb, and franchise dak.

let the qb sit behind dak, and the oline get more experienced. Dak can make a run next year, and then you have a cheap qb for 4 years, and can build the team

That's fine if the rookie gets some time on the field, trouble is usually they get very little in games that count, or nothing but a couple of kneel downs. I have never felt sitting on the sideline does the rookie much good, he has to get on the field....
 

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draft a qb, and franchise dak.

let the qb sit behind dak, and the oline get more experienced. Dak can make a run next year, and then you have a cheap qb for 4 years, and can build the team
The only way you tag Prescott is to try and get a first rounder for him in exchange. Tagging him and not extending him will cost you 38 million. You would have to do a bunch of restructuring and cuts.

Secondly, the "building a team" theory is flawed. You had Prescott for nothing for 4 seasons. Why didn't they build it then if that's a realistic option?
 

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What is the use anyway? Jerry IDIOT GM Jones will keep doing what he does... being a pathetic GM and directing this as he pleases
 

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The only way you tag Prescott is to try and get a first rounder for him in exchange. Tagging him and not extending him will cost you 38 million. You would have to do a bunch of restructuring and cuts.

Secondly, the "building a team" theory is flawed. You had Prescott for nothing for 4 seasons. Why didn't they build it then if that's a realistic option?

It all comes back to Jerry, doesn't it?

Same old same old. If it's not poor drafting it's poor free agent signings, or vice versa. And keeping players past their prime, as well as over paying players based on limited good play.

"Round and round she goes, where she stops everybody knows"
 
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