Zeke is fat is ridiculous

acr731

Jerry learned to GM from Pee Wee Herman
Messages
8,636
Reaction score
24,046
You truly don't understand why it is a good thing if a RB is elusive, or you you don't understand the term? Curious which it is.

He should check out a few Barry Sanders highlights to understand what elusive means. That guy was unreal..... If he hadn't retired early it was going to be a toss up between him and Emmitt for the all time rushing title.
 

G2

Taco Engineer
Messages
24,436
Reaction score
26,195
That's a silly statement and not true at all. I think most reasonable fans want him to be the guy HE was a couple of years ago. No one expects him to be what you are pretending they are expecting.
What's silly is expecting a player to be what they were years ago. Completely different O line, QB, coaching, less mileage and his carries per game are down. I think there's some to be critical about, but it's so blatantly obvious how different things are. I can recall numerous games when he was getting yards, but they just stopped running. Or, they called the same/similar running plays one after another. Or dump offs in the flats with zero blocking.
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,539
Reaction score
21,623
He should check out a few Barry Sanders highlights to understand what elusive means. That guy was unreal..... If he hadn't retired early it was going to be a toss up between him and Emmitt for the all time rushing title.

Not really. Emmitt was always going to get that rushing record. He was a year younger and a ton more durable than Barry.. and he played the game in a style that was well suited to 3-4 more years coming off the bench if he chose to. Because his game was never predicted on speed.. So even after he lost what speed he had, Emmitt could still get 4 yards per carry with limited reps and he could still find the smallest crease into the end zone. Had Barry played 3 more years and put up 3000 more yards Emmitt would simply have played one more year and passed him. If Barry played 4 more years Emmitt would have played another extra year. The record was important to Emmitt.. and was GOING to get it. Period. I firmly believe that an older Barry Sanders would have eventually blown out a knee so bad that he would not have been able to come back. Old knee ligaments don't tolerate that kind of jarring stop and starts as well as young ones. I have a feeling Barry knew it too which might have been why he walked away. He had already almost ripped up his knee in '93. If he did it again in his 30's he might have walked with a cane for life.
 

acr731

Jerry learned to GM from Pee Wee Herman
Messages
8,636
Reaction score
24,046
Not really. Emmitt was always going to get that rushing record. He was a year younger and a ton more durable than Barry.. and he played the game in a style that was well suited to 3-4 more years coming off the bench if he chose to. Because his game was never predicted on speed.. So even after he lost what speed he had, Emmitt could still get 4 yards per carry with limited reps and he could still find the smallest crease into the end zone. Had Barry played 3 more years and put up 3000 more yards Emmitt would simply have played one more year and passed him. If Barry played 4 more years Emmitt would have played another extra year. The record was important to Emmitt.. and was GOING to get it. Period. I firmly believe that an older Barry Sanders would have eventually blown out a knee so bad that he would not have been able to come back. Old knee ligaments don't tolerate that kind of jarring stop and starts as well as young ones. I have a feeling Barry knew it too which might have been why he walked away. He had already almost ripped up his knee in '93. If he did it again in his 30's he might have walked with a cane for life.

Good points - unfortunately, we didn't get to find out. It certainly would have been fun to watch.

I think Barry was tired of always having a terrible line to run behind and that was probably why he chose to retire early. Maybe he was just fed up.
 

Ranched

"We Are Penn State"
Messages
34,885
Reaction score
84,323
There have been a lot of mistakes made by Jones in recent years. From signing Elliott to a huge extension, hiring McCarthy & not paying Prescott. In the end, all three will prove costly in 2021. BOOM!
 

acr731

Jerry learned to GM from Pee Wee Herman
Messages
8,636
Reaction score
24,046
There have been a lot of mistakes made by Jones in recent years. From signing Elliott to a huge extension, hiring McCarthy & not paying Prescott. In the end, all three will prove costly in 2021. BOOM!


BOOM !!!!

0292b72eab269c7903683de6ae5ea4d4.gif
 

805BoysInBlue

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,650
Reaction score
9,260
Dallas paid for a Lamborghini and then Lamborghini decided to put off road tires on it its self? Lmao. Looking at Zeke in college and in 2016 compared to now is astonishing.
 

Cmac

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,164
Reaction score
8,151
Still with this garbage? Does anybody watch football other than the Cowboys?

He's been first or second in offensive snap % every year he's been in the league.
…..and some want to blame him for coming out and ignoring KMoore is yanking him or Pollard out most of the time, with his baffling packages.
 

Cmac

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,164
Reaction score
8,151
The Zeke hate and the KMoore description of being innovative and an offensive guru.

old-man-laughing-stock-video-62741117.jpg
 

CWR

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,635
Reaction score
34,365
He has added some mass, simply to be able to withstand the amount of miles this team is going to put on him. How many times have we seen zeke just bull people over. It’s a style of running and a small frame wouldn’t work. You aren’t gonna juke you’re way to the end zone every time in the NFL. You’re gonna have to run someone over once in a while. If the team decides they want zeke to cut some weight and be that guy again I’m sure his carries would be managed a lot more. We would maybe see more screens and different type of run plays. Until then it’s pound the rock between the tackles and take what they give us. We also don’t play with the lead very much so of course we don’t effectively run the ball as well as some other teams right now. Let’s just chill on the let’s cut zeke he is done stuff....geez

I also believe Zeke being labeled fat is silly. He absolutely did add muscle to his frame. It was however in my opinion a mistake. Zekes home run ability is what separated him from the pack. They should've monitored his gains with his loss in speed and found a better balance. Its my hope he has an offseason to work on his speed. I dont know if it's possible to recapture his rookie form, but he is still young.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,647
Reaction score
26,974
I don't like people making stuff up. Go ahead and critique Zeke's play. Fine.

But grown men whining about how he looks and acting like it has something to do with how he plays (lol) and just totally making things up is stupid and annoying. There's like 50 posters on this board who are all exactly the same - Zeke/DLaw/Dak/Jaylon don't fit the mold of the player they are looking for, which is generally unrealistic, so they just totally make things up and/or create standards that no player could possibly meet.
wonder what he thought of Dennis Rodman LOL

RODMAN was one of the best basketball players of all time and looked well lie the weirdest person on earth as was his personality but he would kick the living chit out of you you come to him with this kind of mess....as im betting this dud wouldn't walk up to zeke in public and talk chit..

let people be already :)

IMO zeke never been fat nor out of shape..he doe not pull himself out of Plays even close to what normal players get subbed out by coaches he simply self rotates and hes on the field more than any back in the nfl since 2016 total snaps offesive % ! I mean most new age nfl backs split time with another back and sometimes 3 RBBC setup so they arent on the field even half as much as zeke..the coaches sub them out nealry every series if not every 3 -4 plays..seriously some clueless fans we have.

how does fat out of shape player have nearly 400 more touches then Henry in the same time frame and stay into Block, be decoy in pass routes , and catch the ball..hes #1 in all skill positions in that category. players who tap out and are accused of being fat and out of shape couldn't handle zekes workload

BTW he also is not at fault for this years downfall its not him and lastly KM is responsible for turning him into more of FB, thats not zekes fault Moore cant design the run game and call anything more then 6 chit run plays
 

Shane612

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,309
Reaction score
5,094
I blame JG and running him into the ground. I have to give it to him though, he’s a tough dude. Love the fact he’s never been injured.
Did he really run zeke into the ground?
hmmmm.........idk about that....
 
Top