Jaylon Smith 3rd in tackles among all linebackers in NFL

[LACowboysFan1]

Myt boss is a statistician of sorts. A quality manager and COO. We keep a ton of records in our laboratory, including XL spreadsheets. When he makes the quality control charts, he makes the UQL and LQL movable....just in case you get some minor outliers. He can fool the auditors easily.

They look at the charts and see all the "stats" are in acceptable limits. Their eyes lie. They either don't have the time or inclination to dig down into what the stats really say.

Yes and you have to apply the stats correctly. Like showing a receiver with a 24.50 yard average on catches in a game. If he had one catch for 95 yards and fumbled the ball out of the end zone for a safety, and three other catches for one yard each, well that's a 24.5 average, but was he that effective?

For example, given a larger set of numbers, it's good statistical practice to throw out the high and the low number, which in this case shows the receiver with a 1 yard average. Now you understand the impact the receiver had on the game better....

 

[foofighters]

Jaylon Smith is 3rd in tackles (103) among all NFL linebackers and 2nd (39) in assist .

Here is the PFF info
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jaylon-smith/10668

He probably leads the league in tackles where the running back ran him for just enough yards to get a first down while Smith hung on for life.

 

[foofighters]

How many of those tackles were in the backfield vs 7 - 10 yards downfield?

Is it a tackle when you get dragged for five yards because your hand got caught in the shoulder pads?

 

[EST_1986]

He's also ranked 1st in high fives and running in the wrong direction

 

[Cmac]

It's kind of hard to make tackles at the line of scrimmage when you have a 300-pound man blocking your way 5 yards downfield. Better DTs would allow Jaylon more clean runs to the ball. That he's fighting through traffic and blocks and still making a lot of tackles is a good thing. Hopefully, if we improve the interior, where he's making those tackles also will improve.

I think this idea that both Jaylon and LVE were good but now they both suck should tell us that's not the whole story, especially when we consider who we've got playing in front of them on the line.

Been viewing that ALL year. Makes a big difference, given we have seen Jaylon and LVE play better. Film don't lie when the line gets gashed.....it starts with interior play. When a RB hits the second line of defense, lots can happen. Blinders on this board frequently. But we need speed on D, and I don't think we have enough.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

How many of those tackles were in the backfield vs 7 - 10 yards downfield?

And what if that wasn't his side of the field to cover, he sets up on the left side of the defense, but the right side linebacker misses the tackle, and Jaylon makes up for that with his speed and makes the tackle, which if he did not, and there was no safety involved, his tackle saved a touchdown.

It goes both ways, to really evaluate any player you have to look at all of the plays he's involved in and the situation in each.

Smith may be one of the better linebackers in the league, stats or no stats, but again you need to evaluate all the plays on defense all year...

 

[EST_1986]

And what if that wasn't his side of the field to cover, he sets up on the left side of the defense, but the right side linebacker misses the tackle, and Jaylon makes up for that with his speed and makes the tackle, which if he did not, and there was no safety involved, his tackle saved a touchdown.

It goes both ways, to really evaluate any player you have to look at all of the plays he's involved in and the situation in each.

Smith may be one of the better linebackers in the league, stats or no stats, but again you need to evaluate all the plays on defense all year...

54 best LB in the league hands down

 

[LACowboysFan1]

54 best LB in the league hands down

That play worked because Jaylon "broke down" in front of the runner. That seems a lost art in the NFL these days, players want to make the "ooh" hit or such, their main job is to TACKLE, don't have to impress the girlfriend in the stands or the television commentators...

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yes and you have to apply the stats correctly. Like showing a receiver with a 24.50 yard average on catches in a game. If he had one catch for 95 yards and fumbled the ball out of the end zone for a safety, and three other catches for one yard each, well that's a 24.5 average, but was he that effective?

For example, given a larger set of numbers, it's good statistical practice to throw out the high and the low number, which in this case shows the receiver with a 1 yard average. Now you understand the impact the receiver had on the game better....

Yep...totally correct. You have been well-schooled in the field of statistics sir!

It's something few people here understand. You just have to let them have their thing I guess.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Not surprising. The defense couldn't get off the field against anyone good. Bad defense = many tackling opportunities.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Jaylon "piling" on those meaningful tackle totals!

 

[FiveSuperBowls]

I wonder if that was a stunt actor or the real deal?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Yep...totally correct. You have been well-schooled in the field of statistics sir!

It's something few people here understand. You just have to let them have their thing I guess.

I love to ask people the old stat question about if you put 35 randomly selected people in a room, what are the odds that any 2 will have been born on the same month and day, e.g.
March 15th. Most people will say about 1 in 10, because there's 366 possible birth dates and 35 people, 366 divided by 35 is about 10.

But what are the actual odds?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Jaylon "piling" on those meaningful tackle totals!

Lok at him plant and get to the ball. Something is not right.

 

[Havic]

3rd in tackles, 2nd in assists, and leads the league by not touching another player until they are 6 yards up the field.

 

[MCMetal69]

He's 1st at missing reads , overrunning the play and shooting the wrong gap................

 

[jazzcat22]

It's all about context here, and the tape doesn't lie.
Watch the film and the majority of his tackles are 7-10 yards downfield.
Most of those are made after 2-3 other guys have already made the stop.

There's a reason he wasn't voted in the Pro Bowl, the guy is absolute trash as a linebacker.
We've had small guys and we've had slow guys, but going back to the late 70's I don't recall any Cowboys linebacker being this horrible.

If 2 or 3 other guys made the stop then why weren't they credited with the tackle?
Doesn't fit your narrative? ignore it. That is the usual hate on this forum anyway. Just change the facts to fit one's narrative / agenda.
Not really directed at you, but all the others that post the same thing.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Jaylon heard that you can get credited for a “tackle” by taking down your own teammate.

 

[streetcredit]

I love to ask people the old stat question about if you put 35 randomly selected people in a room, what are the odds that any 2 will have been born on the same month and day, e.g.
March 15th. Most people will say about 1 in 10, because there's 366 possible birth dates and 35 people, 366 divided by 35 is about 10.

But what are the actual odds?

Most people learned this early on, I think grade 10