Twitter: Jerry on Dak: Evolving into NFL QB, "Picture Perfect"

[slick325]

‘His evolving into an NFL QB ...’? What? Is he still evolving into an NFL QB? It has been 5 years. Dak’s win-loss record has basically been decreasing since his rookie year.

I am not seeing this ‘evolution’ as time goes on. I am also not seeing any team offer remotely close to $35M.

Jerry's use of the words "evolving into an NFL QB" stood out to me as well. Interesting choice of words.

 

[blueblood70]

Jerry's going to cave isn't he...

he hasn't caved the last 2 offseason, why now ?

 

[ShortRound]

I love Dak and I love trolling Dak Haters but Cowboys first always.....I would Tag Dak again and see if the ankle grounds itself. It's a risky chance as the $$$ could get higher but injuries are 100%.
I won't ignore Football Facts no matter whom the player is...

Yeah I don't trust that ankle, that thing was 30 degrees pointed the wrong way.

 

[Denim Chicken]

They have about the same impact on the outcome of a game..

Both are non difference makers.

You can talk me into the model for winning a SB if having a talented QB on a rookie deal.

I will not believe, however, that Dak is not a difference maker. We have him all season, we win the East & are hosting a playoff game.

 

[CouchCoach]

I wish fans would just stop attempting to be contract experts.

I am too busy being a coach form my couch to get into the financial side. And I do appreciate all the observations that I am exactly where I should be.

I am so sick of the business side of this sport that it has soured me on it. I long for the days that I didn't care or know how much a player was making and the announcers didn't think it was their job to cover that side of the sport.

 

[MyFairLady]

Dak is without question better than Goff. He holds a slight edge in every statistical category possible and a large edge when it comes to rushing. Having said that I would consider Goff to be a reasonable NFL QB that a team can win with. I would consider Dak to be a pretty good QB that an NFL team can win with. Neither one is a stud QB that teams should win with. Daks most efficient year was his rookie year. I do not think he has cracked the top ten in QB rating ever since and he has not broken 100 ever since. He is consistently high 90s which as I stated before is pretty good. I guess we just pay the man cause it can certainly get worse.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

he hasn't caved the last 2 offseason, why now ?

Because the cap is now dropping to $175M or so. Worst time ever to cave now.

 

[CouchCoach]

Yeah I don't trust that ankle, that thing was 30 degrees pointed the wrong way.

If that was the dislocate and not the break, a lot easier to heal. There doesn't seem to be any concern from anyone involved.

What is unknown is how he will play his game as compared to how he played it before using his legs. Will there be a mental block? Will he get nervous in traffic?

 

[CATCH17]

You can talk me into the model for winning a SB if having a talented QB on a rookie deal.

I will not believe, however, that Dak is not a difference maker. We have him all season, we win the East & are hosting a playoff game.

Yeah because our division sucked..

If we had a healthy Dalton all season we probably make the playoffs. Just like Cincy always did.

The goal is championships and paying a non elite QB will just make us consistently mediocre.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I see, everybody and his dog (well at least the vast majority) wanted "cupcake Phillips" to be replaced. So, we got rid of him. Result? 10 years of Garrett's mediocrity.

Most everybody wanted Garrett gone, he wasn't going to bring a SB to this team. So, we got rid of him. Result? 6-10 record.

So now it's "We want Dak gone". "We want Zeke gone". "We want Smith gone" "We want Nolan gone". "We want McCarthy gone"

We complain about Jerry, but what did our fulfilled desires get us? Nothing.

It doesn't matter if we get rid of who we want to get rid of, other than Jerry....

 

[Trajan]

I see, everybody and his dog (well at least the vast majority) wanted "cupcake Phillips" to be replaced. So, we got rid of him. Result? 10 years of Garrett's mediocrity.

Most everybody wanted Garrett gone, he wasn't going to bring a SB to this team. So, we got rid of him. Result? 6-10 record.

So now it's "We want Dak gone". "We want Zeke gone". "We want Smith gone" "We want Nolan gone". "We want McCarthy gone"

We complain about Jerry, but what did our fulfilled desires get us? Nothing.

It doesn't matter if we get rid of who we want to get rid of, other than Jerry....

Truth. Sadly, with the Jones Boys running the show, the only chance we have is build a team strong enough to win a championship regardless of the incompetence of the GM.

Does Dak do that ? At too high a price I doubt it. The defense is so bad, that even a season of all +300 yard passing games won't win you a championship.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Yeah because our division sucked..

If we had a healthy Dalton all season we probably make the playoffs. Just like Cincy always did.

The goal is championships and paying a non elite QB will just make us consistently mediocre.

I can see both sides. I agree that Dak is not elite, but I do think he is top tier behind the few elite guys. They're going to pay him--almost no doubt in my mind--so I'm preparing for that. Dak's performance in the post season has been heads and tails above Dalton's, but the defense has let him down. But can you build a good enough defense with the cap space he will command? I believe that you can, but it will not be as easy as it would be if you could go out and get a Lenard Williams, for example. You're really going to have to hit on some draft picks and lower tier FAs, which we have not done with any consistency.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Truth. Sadly, with the Jones Boys running the show, the only chance we have is build a team strong enough to win a championship regardless of the incompetence of the GM.

Does Dak do that ? At too high a price I doubt it. The defense is so bad, that even a season of all +300 yard passing games won't win you a championship.

Well there's always pure luck, too...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I gotta say. I like Dak a lot. One of my favorite players.

but damn Jerry’s you’re the GM. You shouldn’t be talking like this during an active negotiation. IMO.

Wonder if he knows exactly what it'll take to him signed and he's ok with it. In other words, you have to think among Homes, Wilson, and Watson, the boundaries of Dak deal is pretty set.

 

[starfan1]

Yeah because our division sucked..

If we had a healthy Dalton all season we probably make the playoffs. Just like Cincy always did.

The goal is championships and paying a non elite QB will just make us consistently mediocre.

the goal is get to the tournament. then win championship Dak helped do that twice and most likely would have this year. you need to have a complete team to win the whole thing and jerry hasnt built that yet. Even Patrick Mahomes couldnt win it all until he had a defense.

 

[RonnieT24]

I take Watson any day of the week and twice on Sunday over Dak. Deshaun short-handed still makes his team better, that's the difference between an elite and a good QB. I did not see a drop off in WR production with Dak out, did you?

LOL! This will be fun.. Let's look at what you stated by the numbers..

In the 4 and a half games with Dak

Cooper 39 catches for 424 yards (10.8 ypr, 84.8 ypg) . 1 TD That's a pace of roughly 125 catches and 1355 yards.
Lamb 29 catches for 433 yards (14.9 ypr, 86.6 ypg) 2 TDs a pace of roughly 93 catches and 1386 yards
Gallup 17 catches for 348 yards (20.4 ypr, 69.6 ypg ) 1 TD a pace of roughly 55 catches for 1114 yards

Then in the 11 games since Dak went out
Cooper - 53 catches for 690 yards (13.0 ypr, 62.7 ypg) 3 TD yards per reception up by 2.2, yard per game down 22.
Lamb - 45 catches for 503 yards (11.2 ypr, 45.6 ypg) 3 TD yards per reception down 4 yards and per game by 41
Gallup 42 catches for 495 yards (11.8 ypr, 44 ypg) 5 TDs yards per reception dropped by OVER EIGHT yards.. yards per game by 25 ..

If you did not see the drop off in WR production it must have been because you were watching with your eyes closed. Their yards per catch all went down except for Coop and their yards per game dropped like a rock. This was sort of to be expected because Dalton simply doesn't push the ball down the field as well as Dak.. You would think with the shorter throws Dalton would have a higher completion percentage .. but he didn't. Despite averaging a full two yards less per attempt Dalton's percentage of 64.9 was markedly less than Dak's 68.0. I do love how you brin up Watson's greatness in a year where he "led" his team to 4-12 and a top 5 pick in the draft. I like Watson too.. but IMHO the only difference between him and Dak is he went to a more high profile college program. He put up some nice numbers this year.. while his team went 4-12. How often did we get reminded this year that stats don't mean diddly if they don't lead to wins? Or does that only apply to Dak? When other guys put up stats but lose it's cause their teams suck.. When Dak puts up stats but lose it's cause HE sucks.. right?

 

[CATCH17]

Easy to post, impossible to prove.

Well.. I guess the alternative then is Goff is better because he got his team to a Super Bowl and beat Dak H2H in a playoff game as well as opening day this year.


Or we could just use common sense and say Dak is better but both guys go as their team goes.

Trailers.

 

[RonnieT24]

the goal is get to the tournament. then win championship Dak helped do that twice and most likely would have this year. you need to have a complete team to win the whole thing and jerry hasnt built that yet. Even Patrick Mahomes couldnt win it all until he had a defense.

Dude said "just like Cincy always did" .. that's hilarious given Cincy hasn't been to the playoffs since 2015 and the last guy to start a playoff game for them was AJ McCarron not Andy Dalton.. These guys get so caught up in their Dak hate they lose touch with reality.. Dalton has been a JAG QB for the last 5 years.. this year proved no different than the previous 4 years in Cincy. The Cowboys need to sign Dak to a cap friendly deal, then draft the best defender on the board for at least the first 3 rounds of the upcoming draft. Period.

 

[G2]

Well.. I guess the alternative then is Goff is better because he got his team to a Super Bowl and beat Dak H2H in a playoff game as well as opening day this year.


Or we could just use common sense and say Dak is better but both guys go as their team goes.

Trailers.

Sure, when you have to attribute wins to only the QB. Common sense, lmao. You will literally say anyone is better than Prescott.

 

[CATCH17]

the goal is get to the tournament. then win championship Dak helped do that twice and most likely would have this year. you need to have a complete team to win the whole thing and jerry hasnt built that yet. Even Patrick Mahomes couldnt win it all until he had a defense.

Chiefs defense wasn’t that good.

Their offense put extreme pressure on opposing offenses causing them to be more aggressive.

Chiefs defense was solid at best and if we had their defense in 19 we would still have been 8-8 most likely.