Video: Fish: Cowboys 7 steps back to the playoffs

[CowboyRoy]

Red herring.

Jaylon can run straight ahead. He could do that before he ever got back on the field. I think he's gotten slower there as well, but that's the least of his limitations.

Argue that he can cut well if you like.
Argue that he can anchor and drive against a blocker.

LOL............the guy says covering receivers and chasing them down. LOL

How about trying to cover them, letting them catch it 8 yards down field and then trying to chase them down from behind. Not too many guys Jaylon is going to catch from behind.

He is actually really really good at making it look like he is trying to run hard and going very very slow. He's good at faking that he is trying.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

exceptions make the rule, buddy

It's still lazy thinking man

 

[ondaedg]

LOL............the guy says covering receivers and chasing them down. LOL

How about trying to cover them, letting them catch it 8 yards down field and then trying to chase them down from behind. Not too many guys Jaylon is going to catch from behind.

He is actually really really good at making it look like he is trying to run hard and going very very slow. He's good at faking that he is trying.

I've often wondered if he's as fast as we fans think he is. When you see him run he looks like he can move for a LB but maybe he just has good form.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

"They're asking Jaylon to do too much. He's a downhill guy. A run stopper."

Trouble is, Jaylon can't take on blockers. Can't really drive into blockers or anchor against them. A limitation going straight ahead against the run or rushing against the pass.
He can't cut. That makes him a liability even in the run game and the passing game for coverage.

Jaylon is just a physically limited guy with no real effective role in the NFL. We're paying a lot for a guy who has a low physical ceiling, and that ceiling has *lowered* since 2018.

Unless they have some medical reason to believe that ceiling will rise, it's time to move on. Certainly we shouldn't be paying him the money we do just on a belief he might get healthier, let alone no reason to expect that.

Thank you.

I don’t know why people think there’s such a position on any defense where a LB is left free to run around unblocked? You may be able to limit to a small degree that type of engagement but you cannot simply avoid entirely: linebackers have to take on blocks.

End of story.

It’s absolutely comical.

 

[ondaedg]

Do you watch any other NFL games besides Dallas? Every defensive player in the league jumps up and does some stupid celebration when they think they made a play. Jaylon is far from being the only one that does this. How many times have you seen a DB wave his arms after an incompletion when he was 5-10 yds away from the receiver? Happens every game.

I would agree that lots of players do that. I think what gets under people's skin is the fact that Jaylon's performance on the field doesn't match his pay. Alot of people point to his tackle numbers which are good because he hustles to the ball but he makes a significant number of tackles 6yds beyond the line of scrimmage. And let's face it he's a finesse player that doesn't square up a lineman with his outside arm while keeping his inside arm free to make a tackle. Instead he is trying to maneuver around the blocker or getting washed out of the play. I mean he is seriously the polar opposite of a Rolando McLain for example.

 

[ondaedg]

Thank you.

I don’t know why people think there’s such a position on any defense where a LB is left free to run around unblocked? You may be able to limit to a small degree that type of engagement but you cannot simply avoid entirely: linebackers have to take on blocks.

End of story.

It’s absolutely comical.

I agree 1000%. I have no idea why so many Zoners think that our MLBers need protection. I mean they're linebackers right?! They're supposed to take on blockers and make tackles. But neither LVE or Jaylon are truly physical players. They remind me of big safeties playing LB. Heck Donovan Wilson is more physical than either of those two!

 

[CowboyRoy]

I've often wondered if he's as fast as we fans think he is. When you see him run he looks like he can move for a LB but maybe he just has good form.

I dont think he has much speed left. And it looks like he knows he cant change direction well anymore because he basically just sits there 7 yards deep and waits for the play to come to him. Or makes the wrong read and just loafs.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree 1000%. I have no idea why so many Zoners think that our MLBers need protection. I mean they're linebackers right?! They're supposed to take on blockers and make tackles. But neither LVE or Jaylon are truly physical players. They remind me of big safeties playing LB. Heck Donovan Wilson is more physical than either of those two!

They need protection because they such to be honest. Jaylon is a finesse type backer that cant handle the wash. But as it turns out, hes not even good at finesse either.

 

[ondaedg]

They need protection because they such to be honest. Jaylon is a finesse type backer that cant handle the wash. But as it turns out, hes not even good at finesse either.

I hate to say it but I agree. I grew up watching Singletary, Banks, Mills and even Uhrlacher who all had a nose for sticking the RBs at the LOS even when there were blockers engaging with them. I'm not expecting LVE and Jaylon to be like hall of famers but even smallish Sean Lee could navigate the wash to get to the RB.

 

[garyv]

Fish talks crap that everyone already is fully aware of.....LOL

 

[Prossman]

Do you watch any other NFL games besides Dallas? Every defensive player in the league jumps up and does some stupid celebration when they think they made a play. Jaylon is far from being the only one that does this. How many times have you seen a DB wave his arms after an incompletion when he was 5-10 yds away from the receiver? Happens every game.

Call it a petpeve,but celebrations when you are losing irks my nerves.

 

[charron]

I agree with this.

I think Jaylon has in his head he has to dance around or just get crushed every play. A monster DT benefits him

Better DT play benefits them all. Hope they target a few in the draft.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Saying he's good in straight lines means he's trash.

The guy has no eyes and no feel for what an offense is doing. Regardless of what Lee or LVE is doing, Jaylon is terrible.

I disagree. I have watched him in coverage change directions so this nonsense that he can only run straight is pure bs. You guys dislike someone and y'all make up all kinds of crap that is just false

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Here is the truth and I have posted this over and over many times in other posts Dallas needs to move Jaylon Smith to MLB (Middle Linebacker) thats his best spot he don't need to be
trying to cover TE's and WR's and chasing people down on the outside he needs to always play in the MLB spot. They need to draft in 2021 two OLB (Outside Linebackers) that are good
atheletes that run to the ball and make plays both of them will rotate with LVE at OLB (Outside Linebacker).

I disagree. Jaylon can cover and he can pass rush. I'm not saying he is great but he is far from trash

 

[Verdict]

Fisher thinks Aldon Smith isn't as likely to be back as most others seem to. Honestly....the second half of the year he was pretty much a jag. He isnt worth big money. To a certain extent I agree with this...and I think the right moves can make this team a contender again.

I agree with firing Nolan....he kind of gets a raw deal because he had no time to install his defense properly, but this was a mismatch from day one. Our talent by far fits a 4-3 better than a 3-4.

Honestly, I think we can move on from most of our free agents without ever looking back. I would guess we sign either Chido or Lewis...Chido probably makes more sense because Lewis likely wants to get away from this staff that has never really been on board with him. Xavier Woods and Tyrone Crawford should never suit up as a Cowboy again. Lee probably shouldn't but the dude is one that will have to be dragged off the field.

McClay did not have a great year...McCoy likely would have been a good addition but the fact that he went after Poe instead of Harrison is surprising...especially considering how many times Snacks has dominated our OL. Earl Thomas should have been a no brainer...if he pulled knucklehead crap you just cut him. And Leary begged to come back, we pushed him off and then we went back to him he had already promised wife he was done.

I think Fisher is a Jaylon apologist. If he can't do the things a LB is supposed to do then he shouldn't be on the field and he shouldn't have been paid a top tier LB deal. Pretty simple. Fisher says he is a top notch run defender....I havent seen that. I don[t think he has a knack for pass rushing. All I see him do on rushing attempts is run into the lineman and get stuck.

I think the culture thing is really hard to build. Not sure of the answer there.

Would love to see Jerry kick back, but I have no thoughts that he would hire someone qualified.

Just my opinion that Fisher lets his relationship with players affect his evaluation of said players. (That’s human nature). He was high on Dez and Witten even when their best days were long since past.

 

[Hardline]

I'm not clicking anything by Fish.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Call it a petpeve,but celebrations when you are losing irks my nerves.

Mine too, but Jaylon is no different than probably 95% of the rest of the NFL in that regard. It's the SportsCenter/Look At Me culture

 

[MyFairLady]

We need more players who can make a play. Tackling the RB after an 8 yard gain is not considered making a play.

 

[garyv]

I disagree. Jaylon can cover and he can pass rush. I'm not saying he is great but he is far from trash

Hes not trash but better suited to play MLB

 

[Zekeats]

"They're asking Jaylon to do too much. He's a downhill guy. A run stopper."

Trouble is, Jaylon can't take on blockers. Can't really drive into blockers or anchor against them. A limitation going straight ahead against the run or rushing against the pass.
He can't cut. That makes him a liability even in the run game and the passing game for coverage.

Jaylon is just a physically limited guy with no real effective role in the NFL. We're paying a lot for a guy who has a low physical ceiling, and that ceiling has *lowered* since 2018.

Unless they have some medical reason to believe that ceiling will rise, it's time to move on. Certainly we shouldn't be paying him the money we do just on a belief he might get healthier, let alone no reason to expect that.

Jaylon down hill run stopper? If you watch the games it’s the last thing you look for him to do.