Twitter: KC: Dak must reach playoffs consistently if he's paid premium QB money

[ShaneFalco]

So explain to me why a player would not want to restructure and get some of their money converted to a signing bonus?

I don’t have to explain anything.
You do.
Explain why after restructuring Dlaws deal they were barely able to even tag Tak and not give him what he wants, a long term deal?
How much money does DAL have today against the cap?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So that's basically what I figured the answer would be. So the solution would be to over spend on Dak, then kick the cap down the road with several other players, through restructure, which doesn't really fix the problem of signing other players to fill in gaps and only locks us in to players who might be quality players now but a few years down the road, will be boat anchors around our necks.

I mean, it's like the fan base has forgotten the late 90s and early 2000s.

I'm not in favor of that strategy.

 

[Denim Chicken]

How much money does DAL have today against the cap?

I believe they have $24mil of space at the moment.

 

[Denim Chicken]

So that's basically what I figured the answer would be. So the solution would be to over spend on Dak, then kick the cap down the road with several other players, through restructure, which doesn't really fix the problem of signing other players to fill in gaps and only locks us in to players who might be quality players now but a few years down the road, will be boat anchors around our necks.

I mean, it's like the fan base has forgotten the late 90s and early 2000s.

I'm not in favor of that strategy.

And it's like the fan base has also forgot the time between Aikman & Romo.

or 2015.

or this year....

 

[ShaneFalco]

So that's basically what I figured the answer would be. So the solution would be to over spend on Dak, then kick the cap down the road with several other players, through restructure, which doesn't really fix the problem of signing other players to fill in gaps and only locks us in to players who might be quality players now but a few years down the road, will be boat anchors around our necks.

I mean, it's like the fan base has forgotten the late 90s and early 2000s.

I'm not in favor of that strategy.

Also 20 players are UFA’s.
So to release the majority of them and signing cheaper scrubs should help. LOL.
DAL can barely field a freaking team today and even that’s a terrible team.
But the answer is to attempt more of the same idiocy by kicking down the cap mess again and they’ve even hit the end of that road with a whopping 24 MIL up against the cap today.
LOL.
Nothing to see here, folks.

 

[Denim Chicken]

So that's basically what I figured the answer would be. So the solution would be to over spend on Dak, then kick the cap down the road with several other players, through restructure, which doesn't really fix the problem of signing other players to fill in gaps and only locks us in to players who might be quality players now but a few years down the road, will be boat anchors around our necks.

I'm not in favor of that strategy.

Next year's cap will probably be tight, but it will explode after this COVID stuff is done and then Dak's contract will be a steal.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I believe they have $24mil of space at the moment.

You answered half the post...

 

[CATCH17]

And it's like the fan base has also forgot the time between Aikman & Romo.

or 2015.

or this year....

The problem between Aikman and Romo is we trotted out Quincy Carter, Hutchinson, Stoerner, Leaf, and whatever other garbage i'm forgetting.

Plus.. It's a different league. Quality QB's are everywhere. You can find a solid guy on the streets and win games at the same rate Prescott is winning them.

A lof of these QB's go as their team goes with very few exceptions.

I know it hurts to hear this.. Dak Prescott is not a special QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

He's not worth 35 IMO but that was what was reportedly offered. So no, he's definitely not worth 38 or 39. I mean, how has that become a real question, I don't get it. I hear these mediots say things like this all the time. Is a guy who has a sub .500 record worth record money? It's not really that hard a question to answer for me but I look at it differently.

I'm not against signing him, I believe that under the right deal, there is a chance for Dak to win here. I believe there is zero chance if we sign the wrong deal. JMO

5 million over 4 years is 20 million. That's roughly 11.4% of the project salary cap for 2021. It's 25 million on a 5 year deal, which would work out to 14.2% and that's above and beyond what the actual offer on the table counts against the cap. What's a few more mil right? What can you buy to help the team with 20 to 25 mil? Take that 25 mil and then think about what the team might be able to do if they are paying out 27 to 30 rather then 35 or 40. What might the team be able to do with that kind of money?

Question, if you have a saw buck on you but the price is 12 dollars, then does it really matter? You don't have 12 dollar, you got 10. That's the answer to the question.

That’s basically 4-5 million a year. It’s probably 1 good player or a couple backups . And that based on 2021 cap. As the Cap increases it will have less impact.

But depending on what caliber player that 4-5 million a year is it could be impactful . But possibly not as much if we don’t have a Franchise caliber QB.

 

[Denim Chicken]

You answered half the post...

I don't agree with the premise. They were easily able to tag Dak.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Next year's cap will probably be tight, but it will explode after this COVID stuff is done and then Dak's contract will be a steal.

DAL can’t even get to the tag with Tak right now.
His agent isnt going to “work with the Boys” to get a deal done. That should be abundantly obvious to even the casual observer.

 

[Denim Chicken]

The problem between Aikman and Romo is we trotted out Quincy Carter, Hutchinson, Stoerner, Leaf, and whatever other garbage i'm forgetting.

Plus.. It's a different league. Quality QB's are everywhere. You can find a solid guy on the streets and win games at the same rate Prescott is winning them.

A lof of these QB's go as their team goes with very few exceptions.

I know it hurts to hear this.. Dak Prescott is not a special QB.

There are not quality starters on the street. And if a few emerge (Stafford, for instance). they won't be cheap or last long.

If we were drafting high, I could have been talked into a rookie. But that's still a coin flip.

 

[Them]

I heard this on my lunch break.. Good stuff.




Some facts.

Green Bay has made the playoffs 8 of last 10 years. The only 2 they didn't make it were McCarthy's final 2 seasons..

New Orleans has made it the last 4 years and 6 out of the last 10.

Seattle has only missed the playoffs 1 time with Russell Wilson.

Tom Brady has made the playoffs 10 out of the last 10 years. It's been awhile until since Tampa has been to the playoffs

Mahomes has went 3 years in a row.

This is why you pay the elite guys and let the not so elites walk if they want elite money.

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OK...fair enough...but I'm thinking that if Dak would have stayed healthy this season, the offense would have played good enough to make the playoffs, and probably with a winning record...and without a contract...I expect he'll get his contract this season, and then if the defense is even slightly better, I expect we'll get those playoff runs in the future!

 

[ShaneFalco]

I don't agree with the premise. They were easily able to tag Dak.

No. It wasn’t easy. LOL. Like you said, they had to restructure contracts!! To get to the tag!! LOL.
But here’s the real crux of the issue. DAL just doesn’t have the money. And to continue anymore restructuring is NOT RECOMMENDED and NOT PROBABLE. Because they’ve kicked the can down the road, into a field and off a cliff.
That’s why they are at 24 MIL up against the cap today. Yeah, it’s ugly.
Tak will get paid. He will. Just like Cousins did.
On another team. His agent is making sure of that.

 

[CATCH17]

There are not quality starters on the street. And if a few emerge (Stafford, for instance). they won't be cheap or last long.

If we were drafting high, I could have been talked into a rookie. But that's still a coin flip.

There are plenty guys available that you will see no drop off from in terms of team results.

IF you lose Russel Wilson? Yeah.. Thats huge.

But an Old Drew Brees goes down? Well a Teddy Bridgewater can come in and real off 6 or 7 in a row including beating Dak Prescotts Cowboys.

It's more about how good your team is than it is the QB unless that QB is truly elite.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I understand and under a normal franchise situation I’d probably agree. But we have anything but a normal situation here.

The same idiots that can’t build a defense we’re relying on them to find our next QB. Lol

No, no, the "idiots" angle is your view, that's not mine. I don't agree with you in that evaluation.

Further, we've never really tried to build a Defense. We've adopted the idea of trying to score 40 points a game and just fielding 11 other guys on Defense. In truth, I don't know if this team can or can't build a decent defense. I suspect they can because talent wasn't ever the issue. Paying for talent or spending resources on talent, through the draft, for Defensive talent hasn't really been tried with this new staff. I haven't really seen what this staffs personnel might look like, to fit this scheme. We've really only seen them trying to fit existing talent into a scheme devised by the staff.

 

[CATCH17]

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OK...fair enough...but I'm thinking that if Dak would have stayed healthy this season, the offense would have played good enough to make the playoffs, and probably with a winning record...and without a contract...I expect he'll get his contract this season, and then if the defense is even slightly better, I expect we'll get those playoff runs in the future!

Well.. Dalton was winning at the same rate Dak was.. If Dalton doesn't get hurt I think we still make the playoffs.

Dak is getting put on a pedestal he doesn't belong on because of some stats in games against defenses that sucked at defending the pass that we ended up losing anyways.

The offense wasn't that good either until we looked up and were forced to throw all over teams that suck at defending it.

 

[Them]

...You can keep Dalton!...He "ain't " better than Dak!...IMO

 

[Denim Chicken]

There are plenty guys available that you will see no drop off from in terms of team results.

IF you lose Russel Wilson? Yeah.. Thats huge.

But an Old Drew Brees goes down? Well a Teddy Bridgewater can come in and real off 6 or 7 in a row including beating Dak Prescotts Cowboys.

It's more about how good your team is than it is the QB unless that QB is truly elite.

There are plenty guys available that you will see no drop off from in terms of team results.

IF you lose Russel Wilson? Yeah.. Thats huge.

But an Old Drew Brees goes down? Well a Teddy Bridgewater can come in and real off 6 or 7 in a row including beating Dak Prescotts Cowboys.

It's more about how good your team is than it is the QB unless that QB is truly elite.

Nah, the vast majority of super bowl winners are having a great QB at the helm.

Every once an a while you'll get your Foles & Flacco's, but way more often you'll see the Bradys & Maholmes.

 

[CATCH17]

Nah, the vast majority of super bowl winners are having a great QB at the helm.

Every once an a while you'll get your Foles & Flacco's, but way more often you'll see the Bradys & Maholmes.

Yes.. Great QB's taking paycuts or QB's playing on their rookie deals.

Unfortunately. Dak is neither of those.