Twitter: Archer: Quinn is the favorite for DC

[Parcells4Life]

more so wasn't he the DC of Seahawks that put them in Super bowl in back to back seasons ?
it's not his HC role and performance in ATL that i'm interested in, but more so his role and performance in the position the Cowboys are most interested
in as a pure DC.

It’s his scheme in Atlanta they implemented and he even called plays for this year before Raheem Morris took over.

 

[ESisback]

No matter who they choose, there will always be WAY too many “mortified”, “incredulous”, “freaked out” people. NEVER happy!

Let’s relax, take a breath, let it unfold, and be happy and hopeful!

 

[khiladi]

In Quinn's first season as defensive coordinator, the Seahawks led the league in fewest points allowed, fewest yards allowed, and takeaways with 231, 4,378, and 39, respectively, to become the first team since the 1985 Chicago Bears to accomplish the feat; the Seahawks went on to win Super Bowl XLVIII.

I will take this.

They were first the year prior with Gus Bradley. They were also the first the year after he left when Kris Richards took over. The personnel decisions are controlled by Pete Carroll, meaning he basically built the defense. Quinn wasn’t really here or influential when the big players were drafted.

Earl Thomas was drafted in 2010 when Quinn was DL coach, then he left. And the DL basically never blitzed with the LOB. Chancellor was drafted that same year. Sherman was drafted the next year. Browner came in 2011 via free agency. Maxwell was drafted in 2011.

It would be hard to sustain any argument that Quinn gets credit for it.

 

[quickccc]

It’s his scheme in Atlanta they implemented and he even called plays for this year before Raheem Morris took over.

juts like Mike Zimmer and even Belichek i think it's too much on HC's to try to be be both HC/DC ..or HC/OC, ..dual roles mean dual headaches to HC's and they need to delegate duties to their most trusted coordinators ... it's the HCs defense or offense but they need someone to count on to implement the X's and O's down to it's assit coaches

but Quinn doesnt have to be dual role coach here - not worries about game managing FG tries, going for it on 4th down, challenging flags and plays
but just solely as the DC here.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here everybody's gonna jump for joy. Oh come all without, come all within. You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn. Come all without, come all within. You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn. Oh you know I like to do just like the rest, you know I like my sugar sweet.

 

[Risen Star]

 

[texbumthelife]

Im 50/50 on Quinn. On the one hand, I like that he's a younger guy (compared to Nolan and Marinelli) who's had some success as a defensive coordinator and even won a couple of Superbowls. Albeit, those were Pete Carrol's defenses and anyone saying otherwise hasn't paid attention to what these guys do when they leave. On the other hand, his schemes are simplistic by modern standards and he gets very conservative with a lead. We'd essentially be going back to what Marinelli ran his last few years. I was a fan of Nolan because I thought he'd bring a little more juice and aggressiveness. This is a step in the other direction and I'm not a fan. I don't think this team with its current make-up has the football IQ to be successful sitting back and reacting. The players on this defense would do better in single assignment, aggressive looks where they could force the action. I'm also just sick to death of re-treads. If we're going to retread, I would just as soon go with Edwards.

 

[garyv]

The rest interview virtually. Quinn flies in.

Done deal.

I'm stoked.

Some people will shoot me but I like Quinn as our DC. I think HC was too much for him but simply focusing on the Def he will be just fine

 

[fivetwos]

Some people will shoot me but I like Quinn as our DC

Was about to post the same thing.

I don't have time to look into it and read everything, but Quinn may very well be one of those guys who is a good coordinator but bad HC.

The thing I recall the most of him is the horrific clock management, which he won't be anywhere near.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Im 50/50 on Quinn. On the one hand, I like that he's a younger guy (compared to Nolan and Marinelli) who's had some success as a defensive coordinator and even won a couple of Superbowls. Albeit, those were Pete Carrol's defenses and anyone saying otherwise hasn't paid attention to what these guys do when they leave. On the other hand, his schemes are simplistic by modern standards and he gets very conservative with a lead. We'd essentially be going back to what Marinelli ran his last few years. I was a fan of Nolan because I thought he'd bring a little more juice and aggressiveness. This is a step in the other direction and I'm not a fan. I don't think this team with its current make-up has the football IQ to be successful sitting back and reacting. The players on this defense would do better in single assignment, aggressive looks where they could force the action. I'm also just sick to death of re-treads. If we're going to retread, I would just as soon go with Edwards.

Best post of the day! Do not want to sit back and watch teams do whatever they want all day. The Cover 3 and Tampa 2 have been exposed. Bend but don’t break defense is horrible to watch

 

[Dre11]

So some are ok with telling the DBs to never look for the ball and just swipe at hands.

misinformation of the naive, Nobody tells a defender to not look for the ball at all, the rule of any db who's out of phase or in trail technique is to not look for the ball because it doesn't allow you to catch up. In phase you look when the DB look when the db look or when his eyes get big or when his hands go up , which then you either attack the football, or throw your hand through is hands to knock the ball out. no Db coach tells his players to never look for the ball. I wonder how all those DBs in seattle got those ints

 

[Parcells4Life]

misinformation of the naive, Nobody tells a defender to not look for the ball at all, the rule of any db who's out of phase or in trail technique is to not look for the ball because it doesn't allow you to catch up. In phase you look when the DB look when the db look or when his eyes get big or when his hands go up , which then you either attack the football, or throw your hand through is hands to knock the ball out. no Db coach tells his players to never look for the ball.

Richard said he’d prefer his players to swipe hands instead of going for picks because it was a lower percentage play that can lead to big plays.

 

[texbumthelife]

misinformation of the naive, Nobody tells a defender to not look for the ball at all, the rule of any db who's out of phase or in trail technique is to not look for the ball because it doesn't allow you to catch up. In phase you look when the DB look when the db look or when his eyes get big or when his hands go up , which then you either attack the football, or throw your hand through is hands to knock the ball out. no Db coach tells his players to never look for the ball. I wonder how all those DBs in seattle got those ints

It's dependent on more than just trail position. It's significantly dependent on the route the receiver is running.

 

[CouchCoach]

The real issue isn't Quinn or any other candidate. The real issue is how much do the Joneses think this D was due to the DC or is it a talent problem?

Booger has already said they really expected a lot more out pf this D based on the talent and that Smith is the cornerstone of his D.

The real issue isn't him saying those things; the real issue is believing what he said and I haven't heard the "man in the mirror" comment yet and won't sleep well until I do.

 

[charron]

He did lead his team to a SB appearance. Out of the 3 they have interviewed so far I like him the best. Though not gonna lie, there are still more people they should interview before they are done.

 

[Bizwah]

Some people will shoot me but I like Quinn as our DC. I think HC was too much for him but simply focusing on the Def he will be just fine

Some people are better suited for a coordinator position. Some simply need more experience to be a head coach.

Wade Phillips is a good example of a guy that is simply a better coordinator than head coach. Pete Carroll flamed out his first stint as a head coach. Bill Belicheck was fired from the Browns before becoming the coach he is.

I'm fine with Quinn if he's hired. He may be a Wade Phillips-type.

 

[Dre11]

It's dependent on more than just trail position. It's significantly dependent on the route the receiver is running.

its both, but manly on post routes and go routes this apply. the main reason you don't look for the ball is in trailing. because naturally when you turn your head you slow down or loose position with the wr.

 

[Dre11]

Richard said he’d prefer his players to swipe hands instead of going for picks because it was a lower percentage play that can lead to big plays.

show me a qoute from Richard saying it, I never heard him say it. again what were they doing in seattle to get those picks

 

[CyberB0b]

i'd much rather chance a retread who has had a very successful proven record as a pure DC ...than a new my buddy McCarthy hire and
a poor record for the position roles they had in their respective teams ...

He was a DC for two years with one of the most talented defensive rosters we've seen in recent times. He isn't proven. His recent teams were notorious for giving up huge leads.

 

[Dre11]