PPF: Dak's contract projection

[CouchCoach]

What if Dak doesn't want to sign with us ? If I where him i'd go spend my prime in Indy. Top 10 coach, well rounded roster, and tons of cap space

This was his dream job growing up and I assume that hasn't changed. Think he would have ANY of these endorsements if he was a Colt? He has dwarfed Luck in endorsements because he is the Dallas Cowboys QB. Which has also served as the conduit for a high profile job for the last two celebrity Dallas QB's.

 

[Bigdog]

I don’t why people think a player will or should sign for less than the cost of keeping him

Your right but people look at what Brady did and think others should do the same thing. Brady has a wife that is making bank also.

 

[Doomsday101]

Everyone on CZ seems to think we should have all pro backups at every position that are more than happy to continue the rest of their career on rookie pay scale...

Some just do not care for Dak and have been that way since he took over at QB when Romo went down. So of course they do not want to see Dak get paid, they don't want him here to begin with. Myself I think Dak is a very good QB who has continue to grow and develop as a QB and I think him asking for market price is just. I do think what all QB's are paid it mind blowing but it is what the market is.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

like i have said, the market inflation is ridiculous and not sustainable, and if the salary cap stalls at some point the bubble is going to burst. I understand the economics of it but you cant keep raising a contract expectation by 10-15% each year unless the salary cap moves by the same and at some point it will not.

I also thought 35M was high but on a 5 year contract it would end up looking good in years 3-5 so i was ok with it....and yes 4 to 5 mil can make a difference annually on a team in terms of a FA or two, or simply being able to resign a player or two.

I agree. at somepoint, if revenue doesn't keep up for whatever reason, there will be a market adjustment......how long is it sustainable is the question. I think NFL fully knows that the US market is perhaps close to saturation. TV contracts go up only so much, and that's why there has been such a push for international markets, that have so far failed. Right now Mexico is a big target.

I think the quickest and easiest path to supebowl is through the QB. so a couple of years back, in fact I criticized Dak and had concerns and was opposed to giving him a contract. I suggested and advocated for a wait and see year, a prove it year which if he didn't then we move on and not have to deal with a large contract or if he did prove it, then we pay a little more but know that he is the right QB....I think he is the right QB and teams tend to over draft and over pay QBs. its not just a Dallas issue....

and I don't really think 4,5 M going to make a big difference. having the wrong QB would....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak is good, no question but not worth $30 - $40 million. (See Goff and Wentz!!). Let him fly, re-sign Dalton for about $14 million and take the remaining $25 million to sign about 4 defensive FAs and a left guard!! Move up to get Zach Wilson at #7 minus one of your two 3rd round picks (compensatory)! This will right the ship far quicker than signing one player!!

what will Dalton Get you? he brings nothing to the table....and we just did sign 4 FA at about the price of 4-6M. the problem is that FAs that hit the market are either older, past their prime, injured or head cases, else their teams would keep them. so going FA route is not the answer. and going the draft route fishing for a QB will probably fail most often than not, based on history of draft and results.....so you are soooo suurrrreee about Zach wilson, and chances are he is not it. and there are others who swear by this guy and that guy.....and if it fails, you start over again having wasted several years and if you happen to find one, develop him and now time to give him a new contract and we will have the same debates. lets not pay and go fishing again.....

I have been on record that I don't think we should sign an defensive FAs this year, focus on draft, fix the drafting problem and give quinn one year to install his defense, assess the current and the new draftees, figure out the gaps and sign a key FA in 2022.....you can not, can not build a defense through FA. no one has succeeded....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Other than Dallas, is there a team that would pay $40 per year for Dak.

Please note, this is not a statement on how good Dak is, whether or not he can win a Super Bowl, what fair market value is for QBs in general. I am simply pondering if any other team would sign him for this money. To farther clarify, Dallas probably should unless they want to draft a QB this year and do a mini rebuild of sorts. I suppose Dallas could also use one of the two types of tags on him as well.

there are plenty of teams that would....but hey believe what you want....the NFL QB market value is set, watson reset the market and Mahomes just took it through the roof. with Allen, Mayfield and Dak, it will be reset again for that group....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

ahhh to be a QB in the NFL sheeessshhh

try NBA and Baseball contracts....those are crazy

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Owners should be able to negotiate a cap on players QB salaries. Maybe something along the lines that no player can have a salary more than 20% of the cap. I would think most of the players would agree to it as it would create more money for anyone NOT a QB.

they did that once, when jerry gave a ridiculous contract to Sanders and they limited the bonus money.....but they can't do anything until the next CBA...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Personally I would draft Fields...better QB, cheap for 5 years

he is a big gamble......big big gamble.....and the past few OSU QBs haven't really worked out.....so chances are low....

he could be cheap, collosal failure that will forces us to dump him and draft another one a few years from now....it may become a never ending cycle

 

[gjkoeppen]

Really? The previous contract negotiations don't point toward him being smart. Or not holding out for every extra penny he can get, for that matter.

How'd you come to these conclusions? Just curious.

Prior to the last hour or so it was Todd France his agent that was trying to get every penny. In that last hour or so Prescott was doing his own negotiating and they agreed on 35 mil a year but couldn't get the length or guaranteed money done before the deadline. It's funny, not ha ha funny, that the people that actually personally know Prescott say he's a very intelligent guy.
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[Jipper]

I agree. at somepoint, if revenue doesn't keep up for whatever reason, there will be a market adjustment......how long is it sustainable is the question. I think NFL fully knows that the US market is perhaps close to saturation. TV contracts go up only so much, and that's why there has been such a push for international markets, that have so far failed. Right now Mexico is a big target.

I think the quickest and easiest path to supebowl is through the QB. so a couple of years back, in fact I criticized Dak and had concerns and was opposed to giving him a contract. I suggested and advocated for a wait and see year, a prove it year which if he didn't then we move on and not have to deal with a large contract or if he did prove it, then we pay a little more but know that he is the right QB....I think he is the right QB and teams tend to over draft and over pay QBs. its not just a Dallas issue....

and I don't really think 4,5 M going to make a big difference. having the wrong QB would....

i agree that dak is the right qb, for sure but the defense has to be fixed or this team is not going anywhere. We would be sunk with dalton at qb for sure, but the same could be said if we dont fix the defense. For that reason, at some point, position slotting has to have a cutoff...just not sure what that is now. We really need to have a massive hit on defense in the draft this year, more than ever before if we are going to be competitive again.

I think it is a foregone conclusion dak is signed for 35MM++ with an emphasis on the ++....so its a matter of how much $$ is left to take care of the massive gaps on defense.

 

[conner01]

Your right but people look at what Brady did and think others should do the same thing. Brady has a wife that is making bank also.

The myth that Brady took a cheap contract on his first contract is just that, a myth
He took cheaper deals later in his career as many vets do but his first chance to get paid he got paid

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Lol so y’all thought Dak’s value went down when he got hurt?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The myth that Brady took a cheap contract on his first contract is just that, a myth
He took cheaper deals later in his career as many vets do but his first chance to get paid he got paid

Yeah when he got his deal he was the highest paid QB in the league. It’s a myth like you said.

 

[Bigdog]

The myth that Brady took a cheap contract on his first contract is just that, a myth
He took cheaper deals later in his career as many vets do but his first chance to get paid he got paid

That is what I met. So I don't think Dak will take hometown discount even though it would be great for the Cowboys but not for him.

 

[USArmyVet]

That sounds about right but I'm guessing the APY will be closer to $38.5M but that's pulling strings. One thing I'm sure of, his APY floor is $37.7M ( amount of 2nd tag )

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-top-100-free-agents
1. QB DAK PRESCOTT
The prize of the free agent market, Prescott went down with an unfortunate injury after just four-plus games in 2020. With four full seasons under his belt, Prescott has finished in the top 10 of PFF grades twice while ranking closer to 20th in the other two seasons. However, Prescott’s 85.2 PFF grade this season would’ve been a career-best, and his 2019 and 2020 work is the most productive of his career.

From a macro view, Prescott’s play dipped as his supporting cast took a step back, but a revamped receiving corps has had Dallas’ offense moving the ball efficiently with Prescott at the helm. With solid accuracy, decision-making and mobility, he has proven capable of putting up high-end production, and he appeared on his way to establishing himself as an annual “top-eight” quarterback prior to his injury.

Contract Analysis: A second franchise tag would be valued at $37.7 million for Prescott, so the two sides finally agree to a long-term extension just above that on an annual basis.

Prediction: Cowboys sign Prescott for four years, $158 million ($39.5M APY): $115M total guaranteed, $75 million fully guaranteed at signing.

Prediction: Dallas signs Prescott to that dumb arse contract and proceed tp continue to miss the playoffs.

 

[Proof]

I don’t why people think a player will or should sign for less than the cost of keeping him

because it’s for one year vs a long term deal? And that’s just the very obvious answer. There’s a whole host of other potential reasons.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

That is what I met. So I don't think Dak will take hometown discount even though it would be great for the Cowboys but not for him.

Why should he take home town deal now.........his rookie deal did that! (lol) Not his fault we didn't maximize the advantages.

 

[conner01]

because it’s for one year vs a long term deal? And that’s just the very obvious answer. There’s a whole host of other potential reasons.

He knows he can get Watson money
Why would he take less
No player is gonna do that one their first negotiated contract

 

[conner01]

That is what I met. So I don't think Dak will take hometown discount even though it would be great for the Cowboys but not for him.

Sure
It would have been great for every team if players said I don’t want market value