Let's assume Dak gets what he wants

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As much as I hate to admit it, this Cowboys team and its management appears likely to be about 2 years, or so, deprived of impending improvement. Normally, at this time of the year, we're looking forward to a year that holds considerable promise to be much improved from the one we left behind. Evidently, we might be plunging, headlong, into another season of sustained ineptitude. We might even be a bit challenged to be entertained. :rolleyes:
 
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And here I thought I weeded out all the Dak haters. Ignore Ignited! With an elite team around him. He wouldn't last in todays NFL. He'd be sharing hospital rooms w/Wentzie!

Really? Think Brady is running around like Lamar Jackson? Aikman was very close to every bit as accurate and quick release as Brady. Unlike Wentz, Aikman was not undecisive.
 

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And here I thought I weeded out all the Dak haters. Ignore Ignited! With an elite team around him. He wouldn't last in todays NFL. He'd be sharing hospital rooms w/Wentzie!
Aikman survived in a much tougher time. But Wentz and Aikman never had a bone sticking out their skin. Daks injury was pretty bad and he has yet to play so we don't know if he is going to pick up where he left off or he is going to have a setback or maybe never be the same. Doctors and everyone say things went well but what else would you expect them to say.
 

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And here I thought I weeded out all the Dak haters. Ignore Ignited! With an elite team around him. He wouldn't last in todays NFL. He'd be sharing hospital rooms w/Wentzie!

You have it backwards - Dak wouldn't have lasted in Aikman's time because QB's weren't protected back in the 90's like they are now. If I remember correctly, Aikman and Staubach both retired early due to injuries. Had they played in todays NFL both might have had a longer careers.

This isn't a dig against Dak, but the game was much different in the past. Even Brady wouldn't have played as long as he has.
 

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Dak is a top 5 quarterback. You sign him and go get two 1sts if you want to move on. One thing I’ve noticed about the kid is every year he’s gotten better. Watching how stiff and bad his mechanics were his first two years in the league it’s like he’s a completely different quarterback today. I hope the progress would continue in spite of getting paid. It rarely does for players.. However, That said.


5,000 yard 30+ TD quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. He’d have a market.


Jameis Winston threw for over 5,000 Yards and over 30 TD's....should TB have paid him near $40M?

As for Dak improving, he certainly has improved his personal passing stats but what has he done to improve the team? He went from 13-3 in his rookie year to a combined 29-24 record in his next 3-1/3 years......so how is that improving?

Dak's passing attempts by season and team record:


2016 459 attempts 13-3 record

2017 490 attempts 9-7 record

2018 526 attempts 10-6 record

2019 596 attempts 8-8 record

2020 222 attempts 2-3 record (projected if he maintained that pace: 710 attempts 7-9 record)



Passing Attempts % Increase From 2016:

2017: +6.8%

2018: +14.6%

2019: +29.8%

2020: (projected based on injury) +54.7%


So while Dak's attempts have increased each season, the team's record has actually been getting worse.
 
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Dak is delusional. He doesn’t deserve the big bucks. He sets up slow. He is slow to read the field. He is not accurate, especially for sideline passes. His stats come from playing poor teams or when the Cowboys OL was the best. Dak is overrated.
 

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4 year deal at near 40 mil per.

If it didn't work out and you find yourself in a similar situation that the Rams were just in.

How many no 1's would you have to trade to rid yourself of Dak's (much worse than Goff's) contract and obtain a legitimate contending QB?
If the front office sign Prescott long term then it's at least another three years written off, possibly four or five.
 

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And here I thought I weeded out all the Dak haters. Ignore Ignited! With an elite team around him. He wouldn't last in todays NFL. He'd be sharing hospital rooms w/Wentzie!
In todays fairy football he would have no problems, guess you never saw real football with real hits on QBs, your statement is so ignorant you should be banned from posting for 6 months.
 

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Really? Think Brady is running around like Lamar Jackson? Aikman was very close to every bit as accurate and quick release as Brady. Unlike Wentz, Aikman was not undecisive.
It was all about the chemistry between Aikman and his WR,, he would throw the ball out before Irvin was even in his break.
 

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It would be such a salary cap busting contract you can forget about competing for a Super Bowl for years.
Dak isn't going to carry this team to a championship on his back.

Name one QB that has.
 

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It was all about the chemistry between Aikman and his WR,, he would throw the ball out before Irvin was even in his break.

So how does that counter the statement that Aikman could not play in this league now, if he were young again and would end up injured? Which was the statement my response was directed.

My point was fairly clear. Scheming to the strength of your players is essential. Aikman could have thrown for Marino yards. Jimmy's statement. But with his ability and the way the team was built, he didn't need to.

I don't doubt Aikman's accuracy. Never have.

Now add to that Brady stands in the pocket and does exactly what Aikman did. Throw lasers to receivers.

I fail to see how you seem to have missed that point.
 

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Haters and slobberers take a seat for a moment,,, this is a neutral opinion, observation.
So if Dak does get resigned I imagine we get 4 years min, and just drafted CD, so my point being there will be valuable time together in the near future.
How good could this chemistry develop?
Pairing two talented players is never a negative.
Im just trying to keep it real here.
Ive never said that Dak sucs,, all Ive ever looked at is the Dak implications on this teams ability to build and potentially win meaningful games.
If Dak is in the equation than his contract will negate a lot of what everyone expects from this FO to be able to change, esp on defense.
So the question really is and this "NEW" NFL model where contracts and player salary demands far exceed franchise building expectations.....
Can Dak and Lamb become a Brady to Moss connection that cant be defended?
 

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Why do people think the Rams had to trade #1's to get rid of Goff? Was this confirmed? Because to my knowledge the Rams could've cut Goff without giving up anything.....


~43mil more dead cap to cut him(guaranteed salary), ignoring any prorated signing bonuses.
 

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You have it backwards - Dak wouldn't have lasted in Aikman's time because QB's weren't protected back in the 90's like they are now. If I remember correctly, Aikman and Staubach both retired early due to injuries. Had they played in todays NFL both might have had a longer careers.

This isn't a dig against Dak, but the game was much different in the past. Even Brady wouldn't have played as long as he has.

Dak looks like he could twist any QB from 1993 into a Slim Jim. Not sure how you came up with he wouldn’t survive in that era.
 

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So how does that counter the statement that Aikman could not play in this league now, if he were young again and would end up injured? Which was the statement my response was directed.

My point was fairly clear. Scheming to the strength of your players is essential. Aikman could have thrown for Marino yards. Jimmy's statement. But with his ability and the way the team was built, he didn't need to.

I don't doubt Aikman's accuracy. Never have.

Now add to that Brady stands in the pocket and does exactly what Aikman did. Throw lasers to receivers.

I fail to see how you seem to have missed that point.
I dont argue that premise at all,, my point was just that Aikmans strength was his ability to lead, that establishes trust, and then chemistry evolves.
Whats your point
 

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Haters and slobberers take a seat for a moment,,, this is a neutral opinion, observation.
So if Dak does get resigned I imagine we get 4 years min, and just drafted CD, so my point being there will be valuable time together in the near future.
How good could this chemistry develop?
Pairing two talented players is never a negative.
Im just trying to keep it real here.
Ive never said that Dak sucs,, all Ive ever looked at is the Dak implications on this teams ability to build and potentially win meaningful games.
If Dak is in the equation than his contract will negate a lot of what everyone expects from this FO to be able to change, esp on defense.
So the question really is and this "NEW" NFL model where contracts and player salary demands far exceed franchise building expectations.....
Can Dak and Lamb become a Brady to Moss connection that cant be defended?
No.
 
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