Let's assume Dak gets what he wants

[baltcowboy]

I never get involved in trying to read minds. We don't know what Dak thinks.. He has never made any statements to this effect.. This noise has only come from the media. Dak has smartly stayed away from making any public proclamations about any of it. Dak does not have to be worried about fans to care about setting his team up for failure. If he does that then his stay in Dallas will end after whatever deal he signs is up. Maybe sooner. Sure he will have more money than he will know what to do with.. But he'll become a footnote and a punchline in NFL history. I can't believe he wants that for himself. But if he does.. To hell with him..

You just said it brother. Dak is smart. He knows what he is doing. He just needs to keep Tad off of social media.

 

[kskboys]

If you sign him you have to ride it our for the majority of the contract. The rams didn't get better now, short term, or long term.

Don't see how you came to that conclusion. Stafford is better than Goff by a significant margin.

Stafford gives the Rams a 2 year window. By that time they'll be an old team anyway, and it'll be time to tear it down and start over.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I guess the simple pie chart doesn't help some. When you got a fat guy eating up to half the pie, that only leaves so much for the other family members. Oh well, the fat guy needs that much to keep his fat up. smh, you can find some punny guys to eat the crumbs.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Dak is a top 5 quarterback. You sign him and go get two 1sts if you want to move on. One thing I’ve noticed about the kid is every year he’s gotten better. Watching how stiff and bad his mechanics were his first two years in the league it’s like he’s a completely different quarterback today. I hope the progress would continue in spite of getting paid. It rarely does for players.. However, That said.


5,000 yard 30+ TD quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. He’d have a market.

Well, when you find that guy, let me know. As of now, I don't see him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

4 year deal at near 40 mil per.

If it didn't work out and you find yourself in a similar situation that the Rams were just in.

How many no 1's would you have to trade to rid yourself of Dak's (much worse than Goff's) contract and obtain a legitimate contending QB?

that's assuming, and you trying to drive a narrative, which indicates you have an agenda...I guess trying to prove that its not going to work out. not worth the risk, so lets not trade future picks and use them to draft a QB now...is that it? did I miss anything?

so lets balance it. lets assume (since we are making assumptions anyway), that we draft well defensively, Quinn's system and scheme is much better and the defense improves and in the next 4 years we are in the NFCCG and perhaps go to the superbowl.....then based on this assumption you are not trading any picks, you are using them to fortify your defense and your team....

how's that?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It would be such a salary cap busting contract you can forget about competing for a Super Bowl for years.
Dak isn't going to carry this team to a championship on his back.

why? why does that preclude you from competing? Mahomes signed a 50M average contract and they are in the superbowl now....Rodgers had a 35 contract and they were in the NFCCG.

you have no idea what you are talking about. do you?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

you make it work.
he's legit.
you don't walk away when it gets hard.

the rams paniced.
i dont think they made themselves better with that dumb trade.
when you panic...you make dumb decisions.
they should've re-worked goff's contract instead of throwing away future picks...first to get him....then to get rid of him.

if you believe Dak is legit....you make it work.
you don't panic and throw your future away.
pay the man.
if it begins to go south....re-work the deal...keep your picks and draft his replacement.
but you dont do what the rams did.

i don't think it will go south with Dak.
i think he's legit and our future...with him at the helm...is bright.

I agree. they made a dumb trade for ramsey, gave up picks, now paying him big money, so double whammy. now stafford who hasn't accomplished anything in his career. they don't have a 1st round pick, this year, next year and the year after....if they don't win it all next year, they are screwed.

 

[cowboyec]

Don't see how you came to that conclusion. Stafford is better than Goff by a significant margin.

Stafford gives the Rams a 2 year window. By that time they'll be an old team anyway, and it'll be time to tear it down and start over.

but they wouldn't be an old team if they hadn't thrown away 1st rd picks like candy.
and i dont think stafford is better "by a significant margin"....rams made a dumb trade in my opinion.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Aikman didn't take up 14% of the salary cap and was an elite franchise QB.

OK, one day its 13% that's the limit, next day its 16% and now its 14%....Mahomes has average of 50M salary and that's 25% of 200M salary cap.....so how did they make it there?

 

[cowboyec]

I agree. they made a dumb trade for ramsey, gave up picks, now paying him big money, so double whammy. now stafford who hasn't accomplished anything in his career. they don't have a 1st round pick, this year, next year and the year after....if they don't win it all next year, they are screwed.

with no chance to add significant talent as their stars begin to age out.
you covet 1st rd picks...not throw'm away like candy.

 

[Captain-Crash]

hey, one good side to dak getting what he wants, we will get to pick higher in the drafts every year.

 

[charron]

Don't see how you came to that conclusion. Stafford is better than Goff by a significant margin.

Stafford gives the Rams a 2 year window. By that time they'll be an old team anyway, and it'll be time to tear it down and start over.

Goff was good enough to get them to the dance and may have gotten closer this year if not for his thumb/hand injury. Stafford is better but not much to make a big difference. Time will tell though if this move is worth it, atleast they went for it but i doubt it pans out.

 

[Hardline]

why? why does that preclude you from competing? Mahomes signed a 50M average contract and they are in the superbowl now....Rodgers had a 35 contract and they were in the NFCCG.

you have no idea what you are talking about. do you?

Mahomes just got his contract extension and is an elite QB.
Are you comparing Daks situation to Mahomes?

 

[starman22]

Not only are you bad at QB evaluation you are also apparently bad at math.. Dak is 42-27 as a starter.. That's um.. lemme see.. carry the 1.. divide by 12.. yeah.. 15 games over .500 for Dak's career. Nice try.. thanks for playing..

Add 42+27=69. .500 would be W - 34.5- L34.5

He is actually 7.5 games above .500

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

4 year deal at near 40 mil per.

If it didn't work out and you find yourself in a similar situation that the Rams were just in.

How many no 1's would you have to trade to rid yourself of Dak's (much worse than Goff's) contract and obtain a legitimate contending QB?

 

[conner01]

It would be such a salary cap busting contract you can forget about competing for a Super Bowl for years.
Dak isn't going to carry this team to a championship on his back.

I don’t agree at all
One thing you have to have to win a SB is a QB
And half the league needs one right now
When you are blessed enough to get one you keep him
And I don’t believe he’s ever ask for 40 mil

 

[RonnieT24]

Rules are that what has Dak done since his rookie 13-3 season anomaly? As Parcells would say: your record is what it says you are......and Dak is barely above .500 in 3-1/3 seasons.....and Dallas is getting worse not better with having Dak be a pass happy QB.

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Pass happy teams don't win super bowls. (Short passing O's such as Brady's being the lone exception)

Run heavy teams that play good defense have won Super Bowls in recent years.. The Seahawks, the Ravens (twice), the Steelers and Broncos leap immediately to mind. Teams that throw it all over the place and stink on defense never accomplish much of anything. Come to think of it that "stink on defense" thing might be a bigger factor than run/pass ratio. No team giving up more than 30 ppg has ever even sniffed a Super Bowl titles.. Teams that throw for big numbers have at least been in the hunt on occasion.

 

[USArmyVet]

OK, one day its 13% that's the limit, next day its 16% and now its 14%....Mahomes has average of 50M salary and that's 25% of 200M salary cap.....so how did they make it there?

Mahomes Salary Cap Hit and projected % of team salary cap


2020: $5.36M 2.42% Cap %

2021: $24.8M 13.77% Cap %

2022: $31.4M 15.05% Cap %

Now obviously for 2021 and beyond his cap % will be determined by what the set salary cap is and what players are signed/released/drafted/etc. but the point is he is not taking up 25% of the team salary cap with his contract because he structured it in a way where it is in fact considered a team friendly deal. While you can argue that Dak can do the same type of deal, the fact is that Mahomes signed that deal AFTER winning a Super Bowl and now taking KC to another Super Bowl.......Dak can't begin to say that as he has never made it to a Conference Championship game.

 

[USArmyVet]

All this one does is post inconsequential videos.....sad existence.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Mahomes Salary Cap Hit and projected % of team salary cap


2020: $5.36M 2.42% Cap %

2021: $24.8M 13.77% Cap %

2022: $31.4M 15.05% Cap %

Now obviously for 2021 and beyond his cap % will be determined by what the set salary cap is and what players are signed/released/drafted/etc. but the point is he is not taking up 25% of the team salary cap with his contract because he structured it in a way where it is in fact considered a team friendly deal. While you can argue that Dak can do the same type of deal, the fact is that Mahomes signed that deal AFTER winning a Super Bowl and now taking KC to another Super Bowl.......Dak can't begin to say that as he has never made it to a Conference Championship game.

but dak can get us closer to the number one pick each year in the draft after they sign him to the inflated money he wants.