Prescott/Goff/Wentz Last 48 games (3 season equiv.)

[Irvin88_4life]

The point is that aside from his fan club absolutely no one would care if Dak threw for 10000 yards a season if the team still finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

Funny because y'all didn't like Dak after he went 13-3, 9-7, 10-6....... said he couldn't throw 200 yards a game. You haters flip flop so much

 

[Loso86]

Comparable numbers with a MUCH MUCH worse supporting cast? I'd say it does.

Better Defense, up until this year every body said they had better TEs WRs and Oline so idk. I hear what your saying but out of these 3 I pick Dak everytime and it's not close. Tie in the locker room doesnt really like Wentz and how he does under pressure no thanks.

 

[DFWJC]

Tampa, Green Bay and LA Rams gonna do battle next year in the NFC

 

[Kevinicus]

Better Defense, up until this year every body said they had better TEs WRs and Oline so idk. I hear what your saying but out of these 3 I pick Dak everytime and it's not close. Tie in the locker room doesnt really like Wentz and how he does under pressure no thanks.

Defense isn't relevant. Nobody said he had better WRs. He's had nobody to throw balls to the last 2 years. Not much of a running game. It's not close on offense.

 

[Proof]

The point is that aside from his fan club absolutely no one would care if Dak threw for 10000 yards a season if the team still finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

what part about his post do you not understand? It wasn’t pro Dak.

 

[Qcard]

Considering the teams around them, this makes Wentz look way better.

Sure if leadership is a non-factor, you are right sir!

 

[atlantacowboy]

If anyone is curious.

With Wentz falling off a cliff this year, I was wondering how the three main 2016 QBs numbers compared after the last 48 games or 3 full seasons equivalent

Here are the results

Passer rating

1. Prescott 95.63
2. Goff 93.25
3. Wentz 92.44

Passing yards

1. Goff 13579
2. Prescott 12775
3. Wentz 11931

Passing TDs-Ints

1. Wentz 57 (91-34)
2. Prescott 40 (72-32)
3. Goff 39 (80-41)

YPA

1. Prescott 7.7
2. Goff 7.6
3. Wentz 6.9

I suspect that if we ran these numbers for all starting QBs over their last 3 season equivalent, we'd find all three of these guys in the 12-18 range in the league, but Dak would come out in the lead by a somewhat small margin.

Just passing along raw data.
Make with it what you want

Not looking like a top 5 Qb now is he? Good thing Wentz fell off a cliff or this wouldn't even be close. lol

 

[superonyx]

This thread has no agenda one way or the other. I was just curious how it would shake out.

I'm fine if you want to throw in team stats to an individual QB thread.
I will say, however, they are not playing golf or tennis.

What surprised me was how close these guys are even when you include the putrid Wentz season this year.
No matter how we shake it, these are not elite numbers for full raw stats or efficiency for any of the three.

Shows us Matt Ryan, Desawn Watson, Josh Allen, Stafford, ect.

All 3 guys have impressive stats just as all the guys above have impressive stats.

Goff and Wentz are on their way out because neither of these 2 are the type of leader a team needs. They have both proven to turn into Kirk Cousins in the 4th qtr.

But you will have the same trolls jumping on these stats and pretending that since Dak has impressive stats and so do the other guys somehow that means Dak must be bad.

Its typical these days to watch people twist themselves into pretzels trying to convince others of something they can't even know.

 

[JW82]

If anyone is curious.

With Wentz falling off a cliff this year, I was wondering how the three main 2016 QBs numbers compared after the last 48 games or 3 full seasons equivalent

Here are the results

Passer rating

1. Prescott 95.63
2. Goff 93.25
3. Wentz 92.44

Passing yards

1. Goff 13579
2. Prescott 12775
3. Wentz 11931

Passing TDs-Ints

1. Wentz 57 (91-34)
2. Prescott 40 (72-32)
3. Goff 39 (80-41)

YPA

1. Prescott 7.7
2. Goff 7.6
3. Wentz 6.9

I suspect that if we ran these numbers for all starting QBs over their last 3 season equivalent, we'd find all three of these guys in the 12-18 range in the league, but Dak would come out in the lead by a somewhat small margin.

Just passing along raw data.
Make with it what you want

I don't think you can put the TD/int info and not include Daks 24 Rushing TD's to Wentz's 8 and Goff's 10. not to mention completion % Goff 63, Wentz 62 and Dak 68.

 

[irishline]

Nice try but Dak can't have 3 losses in the playoffs even he has only been twice. Can't lose twice in 1 year in the playoffs

That and the fact that Goff is 2-3 in the playoffs not 4-2.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GoffJa00.htm

 

[Loso86]

Defense isn't relevant. Nobody said he had better WRs. He's had nobody to throw balls to the last 2 years. Not much of a running game. It's not close on offense.

Defense is very relevant when it comes to QBs my friend. Plus the dude is a turnover machine. And before we got coop and Lamb they had better wrs so it was said better TEs and a more consistent Oline so it was said. Go look at the last 5 years

 

[InTheZone]

Huh? Goff and Wentz are solely being unloaded because of their ridiculous contracts. No way to spin that any other way. Goff and Wentz are not worth $30M+. I doubt the Rams think Stafford (minus 2 1st round picks) and the Eagles think Hurts will lead them to the promised land in the next two years.

Rams are most definitely are chasing a ring with Stafford

 

[basel90]

If anyone is curious.

With Wentz falling off a cliff this year, I was wondering how the three main 2016 QBs numbers compared after the last 48 games or 3 full seasons equivalent

Here are the results

Passer rating

1. Prescott 95.63
2. Goff 93.25
3. Wentz 92.44

Passing yards

1. Goff 13579
2. Prescott 12775
3. Wentz 11931

Passing TDs-Ints

1. Wentz 57 (91-34)
2. Prescott 40 (72-32)
3. Goff 39 (80-41)

YPA

1. Prescott 7.7
2. Goff 7.6
3. Wentz 6.9

I suspect that if we ran these numbers for all starting QBs over their last 3 season equivalent, we'd find all three of these guys in the 12-18 range in the league, but Dak would come out in the lead by a somewhat small margin.

Just passing along raw data.
Make with it what you want

It just shows dak is not special , he is probably 10th to 12 th in QB ranking overall

 

[Irvin88_4life]

That and the fact that Goff is 2-3 in the playoffs not 4-2.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GoffJa00.htm

That's what Dak haters do, change the numbers ever so slightly to make him look worst thinking they won't be caught.

 

[LittleD]

If anyone is curious.

With Wentz falling off a cliff this year, I was wondering how the three main 2016 QBs numbers compared after the last 48 games or 3 full seasons equivalent

Here are the results

Passer rating

1. Prescott 95.63
2. Goff 93.25
3. Wentz 92.44

Passing yards

1. Goff 13579
2. Prescott 12775
3. Wentz 11931

Passing TDs-Ints

1. Wentz 57 (91-34)
2. Prescott 40 (72-32)
3. Goff 39 (80-41)

YPA

1. Prescott 7.7
2. Goff 7.6
3. Wentz 6.9

I suspect that if we ran these numbers for all starting QBs over their last 3 season equivalent, we'd find all three of these guys in the 12-18 range in the league, but Dak would come out in the lead by a somewhat small margin.

Just passing along raw data.
Make with it what you want

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Stats lie cause we all know that none of these guys can beat Seattle, Green Bay or Tampa Bay to get to a championship game. All 3, if they did would get creamed by Mahomes.

 

[DFWJC]

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Stats lie cause we all know that none of these guys can beat Seattle, Green Bay or Tampa Bay to get to a championship game. All 3, if they did would get creamed by Mahomes.

How did these very average stats lie then?

Either way, the story is not fully written for all of these guys.

 

[DFWJC]

I don't think you can put the TD/int info and not include Daks 24 Rushing TD's to Wentz's 8 and Goff's 10. not to mention completion % Goff 63, Wentz 62 and Dak 68.

Remember, this is a quick study on the most recent 48 games (or 3 season equivalent)....
Also you cant add rushing TDs without subtracting fumbles lost.

Here are the completion percentages over the last 48 games

1. Prescott 65.9%
2. Goff 64.7%
3. Wentz 62.9%

I'm pretty sure this is captured to some degree in QB rating, but there you go.

As for Rushing TDs - fumbles....over the last 48 games....I'd have to dig in.
It is true that you can do a TD-turnover differential by adding in the rushing TDs and subtracting the total fumbles.

Update.
I looked up Dak's rushing TDs and lost fumbles over the last 48 games.
he had 16 rushing TDs and 14 lost fumbles.....so improved his differential by 2.

 

[DFWJC]

Shows us Matt Ryan, Desawn Watson, Josh Allen, Stafford, ect.

All 3 guys have impressive stats just as all the guys above have impressive stats.

Goff and Wentz are on their way out because neither of these 2 are the type of leader a team needs. They have both proven to turn into Kirk Cousins in the 4th qtr.

But you will have the same trolls jumping on these stats and pretending that since Dak has impressive stats and so do the other guys somehow that means Dak must be bad.

Its typical these days to watch people twist themselves into pretzels trying to convince others of something they can't even know.

Actually, those are NOT really all that impressive. They are closer to average or slightly above.
95 or 96 QB ratings are right in the middle of the league..in the 14-18 range

 

[JW82]

Remember, this is a quick study on the most recent 48 games (or 3 season equivalent)....
Also you cant add rushing TDs without subtracting fumbles lost.

Here are the completion percentages over the last 48 games

1. Prescott 65.9%
2. Goff 64.7%
3. Wentz 62.9%

I'm pretty sure this is captured to some degree in QB rating, but there you go.

As for Rushing TDs - fumbles....over the last 48 games....I'd have to dig in.
It is true that you can do a TD-turnover differential by adding in the rushing TDs and subtracting the total fumbles.

Update.
I looked up Dak's rushing TDs and lost fumbles over the last 48 games.
he had 16 rushing TDs and 14 lost fumbles.....so improved his differential by 2.

An Wentz has 23 lost fumbles to his 8Tds so a minus 15.

 

[DFWJC]

An Wentz has 23 lost fumbles to his 8Tds so a minus 15.

Here are the Rushing TDs minus Lost fumbles over the last 48 games

Prescott +2 (16-14)
Goff -7 (9-16)
Wentz -13 (6-19)

So Total TDs - Total Turnovers

1. Wentz +44 (97-53)
2. Prescott + 40 (88-46)
3. Goff +32 (89-57)

The point is of this thread was not to make one look better than the other.
I was just curious how they have done more recently...as in last 48 games.
What was surprising was how similar their stats are.
Not terrible, but nothing special either.