Give Dak a nonexclusive franchise tag

Hawkeye0202

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Yea, let other teams set the price for him.

I have no idea why fans are obsessed with this idea. It's absolutely the worst thing you can do.

1000%......I seriously doubt Jerry and Stephen have any intention of letting another team decide how much they should pay their QB.
 

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They should’ve done this last year.

Dallas constantly gives themselves no leverage..

I don’t know if they are trying to negotiate like honorable gentlemen in hopes of a discount but Todd France is making them look like fools.
I TOTALLY agree with you!! Should have done this last season.
 

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If the Cowboys did use the nonexclusive tag it would almost guarantee Dak plays on the tag again and then the Cowboys risk losing him for nothing in free agency the following year.
 

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You aren't capable of nuance or complexity. Owners aren't monolithic. QB scarcity is real.

Name a QB under 30 to hit veteran free agency in the past decade better than Prescott.

Compare contract values in free agency to those signed outside of it in general.

So nice...the fuzz busting out his truth, but I'm going to steal some of his lyrics of love.
 

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If the Cowboys did use the nonexclusive tag it would almost guarantee Dak plays on the tag again and then the Cowboys risk losing him for nothing in free agency the following year.

Bye...can I loan you some money?
 

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Get the tag signed ship him to Seattle for Wilson and our 10th pick


WTH? I thought he was worth 2 firsts? Damn that would be cool, free up some coin, let seattle get a young qb , but not ship him off...send him in style on a airplane...
 

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Russell Wilson, unlike Dak, has shown an ability to make throws outside his first read. Guys like Goff and Dak are pretty much the same. Dak also drops off considerably from first to second read. And Dak again had or had the best or one of the best OL and RG in the league.



Now we are using other qb's stats to say Dak sucks? That's new.
 

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Now we are using other qb's stats to say Dak sucks? That's new.

Well, actually somebody said Russell Wilson is like a Dak and I brought this stat of him being the top ranked qB rating in the NFL after the first progression as a refutation of this claim that Dak is ‘close’ to Russell Wilson who doesn’t have anywhere near a stacked roster like Dak has had his whole career as not being true. And then I mentioned that Dak is pretty much right where Goff is in terms of drop-off in QB rating from first to second progression, so again, that’s not other QBs stats without taking into account Dak’s. It’s no surprise both Goff and Dak throw more play action than any other QBs in the league year in and out and Linehan and Moore basically almost completely eliminated the traditional drop back for Dak, because he sucks at it.
 
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I'm not sure why you want to loan me money but I'll take it

That is because if Dak does get his money, I float you a loan. Then we can sit this coming season...8-8. Bro, I got money I have not even counted. Smoke a bowl...got some guitar player coming over. Love is cool...
 

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We could get lucky and receive 2 first round picks for him. The Colts traded for Wentz so they're out of the running. The Saints don't have enough cap room. Maybe a team like the Panthers (8th pick), Jets (2nd pick), or Broncos (9th pick) sign him.

No one that believes Dak is a top 10 QB will agree with you on this. They are of the belief that the team is close to the contenders with a few moves. In reality, the defense basically needs a complete overhaul and the offense may need 2 new tackles and maybe a center due to health concerns. This team is at least 3 years from serious contention (and that with excellent team building and good contact signings).

This team nucleus should be blown sky high and started over again. Though if they sign Dak to a long-term deal, you can probably bank on 2 of 4 division titles in the next 4 years (which I can see gets many on here hot and bothered). They would much rather mediocrity than real garbage results.
 

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I don't think France had any intention of taking anything beyond a 4 year deal.




That could be true but it doesn't explain what the mechanism that the Cowboys had that could have called France's bluff like jeffindc seems to think the Cowboys had.
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No one that believes Dak is a top 10 QB will agree with you on this. They are of the belief that the team is close to the contenders with a few moves. In reality, the defense basically needs a complete overhaul and the offense may need 2 new tackles and maybe a center due to health concerns. This team is at least 3 years from serious contention (and that with excellent team building and good contact signings).

This team nucleus should be blown sky high and started over again. Though if they sign Dak to a long-term deal, you can probably bank on 2 of 4 division titles in the next 4 years (which I can see gets many on here hot and bothered). They would much rather mediocrity than real garbage results.

Think about it, how many teams give their QB a long term deal if they're not going to be in serious contention for at least 3 years? I can think of one, Houston, and look at that organization. Detroit? That's another one and look at their history. Dallas would fit right in.
 

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Have you NOT read what myself and others stated? The Non-Exclusive Tag - that mechanism allows the team to Tag a player while also seeing what other teams think his value is. And, the teams can’t just put some crazy offer out there - they know if they make an offer that matches or EXCEEDS the current teams, they’ll lose draft capital and/or a player to sign that player away. So, Jerry and Stephen could’ve used that to show Dak and T. France if his market value is what Dallas thinks OR what Team Dak thinks.




All of you that seem to think the non-exclusive tag would cure everything are only fooling yourselves. Here's what people that actually understand everything see. The Cowboys made an offer and Prescott or France rejected it and repeated his offer of 40 mil a year. The Cowboys tweaked their offer a little and France again rejected it and repeated his original offer. So then the Cowboys as you think should have put the non-exclusive tag on him and the minute the do that, Prescott like any other player that has had the non-exclusive tag applied know that their team is actually trying to trade the player for two #1 draft choices. The other thing that happens is the other GM's that may be interested in signing Prescott knows that a couple of offers have been rejected and that France just made the same demand as he did originally so those GM's know that if they want Prescott they'll have to offer pretty darn close to what France's demands are. So what then happened, by applying the non-exclusive tag the Cowboys just opened up the negotiations into a bidding war with the rest of the league. VERY DUMB! That would have made it so the Cowboys now have to worry about other teams for the QB they believe is their franchise QB for now and the future where they don't have to worry about any other teams with the exclusive tag. What you're calling a mechanism to call France's bluff is nothing more than a mechanism to trade Prescott. Leave the GM duties to those that actually get paid to do it and actually understand how to do it.
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The market and the price aren't the same thing.

The market is $40. If, say, Chicago came in and said "we'll go to $45," that's now the price. The reason you don't do non-exclusive is because it forfeits all of your control. It's the same as not letting a guy get to UFA before signing him.

Just a really bad idea with a quarterback. 0 upside.
That’s possible. It’s is also possible that Dak would not get as many offers as people think. Keep in mind that teams not only have to pay Dak, they also have to give up 2 first round picks to do it.

I’m not saying you aren’t correct in your assessment. It might be spot on. In fact I lean towards agreeing with your assessment.

But wouldn’t it be something if it drove Dak’s contract price DOWN? I mean...think about it...Dallas should be willing to pay him more than anyone else..because they do NOT have to also give up two first round picks to sign him.

That’s a LOT of assets tied up in one player. Maybe Dak is worthy of such an investment by another team. We gave up a first and signed Amari Cooper, so the compensation is not other worldly in terms of draft pick compensation.

But how many teams would be willing to give up two firsts? Most of the teams who would be willing to do that pick low enough that they don’t need a QB—they already have one.

A team like the Jags would be giving up two high picks. But they can get Sunshine for one pick at a low cost. So why do it?

You would have to watch out for a team like the Commanders. They might do it for multiple reasons. Of course it just takes one.
 

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Well, I nailed Dak. You didnt.


What hotel did you nail him in?

Sorry he left you. You will find another...he will come around.

Stop sleeping with Dak...his girl will kick you to the curb. You Dak girls will fight over him until your finger nails come off like little cats...he's rich. Love him, beg him, please don't leave me...I loves you.
 
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