Should cowboys have traded a 3rd round pick for Wentz?

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To Cowboy fans I’m sure. I’d do it too and we would all look stupid. Eli had a superior career to Romo and never played on teams as good
Saying Eli never played on teams as good as what Tony did is really totally preposterous.
Looking at the 45 man rosters each year for all those years?
Seriously?
Jeez, rocyaice.....that's nuts
 

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The same Gm's who took 22 first round qbs since 2009 that are no longer with the team that drafted them? Lol
How about we just go back to recent history and stop this selective 2009 to 2016.
The last 4 years, 12 of the 15 are currently starters..
 

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:facepalm:

Put Eli on those Cowboys teams and they'd still be ringless.
100% certainty

Or best roster, the 2007 Cowboys, certainly are not holding the Patriots to 14 points.....in fact they gave up 48 to them earlier in the year.

And our 2011 Cowboys---the other year Eli won a title---had an JAG oline, run game and defense.
 
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I know its fun to hate on Wentz but the idea of getting him for a third or a second and having Philly paying a chunk of his contract as opposed to paying Dak a mega deal is not the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Of course I'd rather have Dak but the cap has to be navigated.

Bottom line is we blew this negotiation and now it will cost us. Dak was so garbage in 2017 I supported not paying him early. Then the second half of 2018 happened and I realized I dont know what the hell I'm talking about. Had we locked him in back then I'd like to think we'd have a greater overall appreciation for our QB1.



After the 2018 season when the Cowboys could then try to extend Prescott they offered 30 mil a year which was 10 times what he was making but France told him it was less than what he would get if they waited until after the 2019 season so Prescott said he wouldn't negotiate because he need to concentrate on football to improve his game. Then after the 2019 season the Cowboys again offered that 30 mil and France rejected that because it was less that what Prescott would make if tagged and said the number was 40 mil and he wouldn't budge from that so the Cowboys had to tag him.
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How about we just go back to recent history and stop this selective 2009 to 2016.
The last 4 years, 12 of the 15 are currently starters..

The reason you go back is because it was 7 damn years. It shows how hard it's to find 1.
 

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The reason you go back is because it was 7 damn years. It shows how hard it's to find 1.
12 of the last 15 are current starters---and 8 or more of those are very good to great starters----says that's not so
 

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No!

Wentz wouldn't want a backup position. Besides, you create instant division on this team. Despite what we may think of Dak's abilities (argument among fans), Dak is beloved by his teammates. You don't bring in a young quarterback drafted in the same time window as Dak into this franchise. A quarterback like Trevor Lawrence is different. But a quarterback whose leadership is questionable like Wentz? No way.
 

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12 of the last 15 are current starters---and 8 or more of those are very good to great starters----says that's not so

7 year span vs a 4 year span? It definitely does show, also, how many of those 8 have received their 2nd contract with said team? What like 3? Don't you think waiting , to make that claim.
 

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Romo was a better QB than Eli. Had he been playing for the Giants then he wins the same rings as Eli and gives them a better shot over the other years.

Who won in 2007 with a lesser team?


Nice scenario you imagined there.


Romo 18-36, 201 Yards, 64.7 Passer Rating. 1 Interception.


Yeah no, Eli would've won on either teams.
 

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To Cowboy fans I’m sure. I’d do it too and we would all look stupid. Eli had a superior career to Romo and never played on teams as good
Eli had two great runs and he has his defense to thank, the rest of Eli’s career was pretty dam average. Reverse the qb’s of the Giants and Cowboys, I’m thinking Romo would have fared much better with those two defenses than Eli would have fared with the Cowboys.
 

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12 of the last 15 are current starters---and 8 or more of those are very good to great starters----says that's not so

Only about 6 of the first round qbs in the last 4 years have a great shot to be with their team for a second contract 2 of the 6 already got a second contract.
 

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So the Giants in 2007 were better roster-wise than the Cowboys?
By the end of the year, that defesne was way better.

We gave up 48 to the Pats......they gave up only 14 in the Super Bowl
There is NO chance that we could hold those Pats to 14.

Score 17 like Eli and crew did? For sure! Probably more
But we aren't holding them to 14
 

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Only about 6 of the first round qbs in the last 4 years have a great shot to be with their team for a second contract 2 of the 6 already got a second contract.
Without even thinking hard, I can see 8
Mahomes, Jackson, Watson, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Murray, Mayfield.......

Plus, it sometimes means little if a player moves to another team. You can't tell me Watson is not a great starter, for example....so I include him
 

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Eli had two great runs and he has his defense to thank, the rest of Eli’s career was pretty dam average. Reverse the qb’s of the Giants and Cowboys, I’m thinking Romo would have fared much better with those two defenses than Eli would have fared with the Cowboys.
Contrary to popular belief...the Giants defense wasn't great. They did have a very good defensive line however. Personnel-wise I would've rather hav had the
Cowboys defense in 2007 than the Giants.
 

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By the end of the year, that defesne was way better.

We gave up 48 to the Pats......they gave up only 14 in the Super Bowl
There is NO chance that we could hold those Pats to 14.

Score 17 like Eli and crew did? For sure! Probably more
But we aren't holding them to 14
We are speaking roster wise correct? Personnel wise? You taking the Giants personnel over the Cowboys?
 

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Who won in 2007 with a lesser team?


Nice scenario you imagined there.


Romo 18-36, 201 Yards, 64.7 Passer Rating. 1 Interception.


Yeah no, Eli would've won on either teams.
No.
And we know Romo's stats were weird that game.
Just the next to last play by Crayton would've turned that into a 90+ passer rating, 1 TD and 0 ints.
Not even including the 3-4 other drops.

And NO WAY that Dallas team beats the Pats with freaking Eli at QB.
That D gave up 48 to the Pats earlier in the year while Eli's Giants gave up 14 in the Super Bowl.
 

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Think so?

I don’t think anyone is paying that for a QB that is only solid with not much upside in talent.
Umm, that’s exactly what the Eagles just got for the worst QB in the league

The idea that Dak is worth less than Wentz is ludicrous
 
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