News: Dak Wants Cowboys To Pay Him ‘Right Behind Mahomes’ - And Pay Him ‘Respect’

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None of this song and dance makes any sense to me.

The Cowboys if they really wanted Dak should have extended him the second the CBA allowed it and it would have been like $30m per or something.

If the Cowboys didn't really believe in Dak they should have moved him immediately so they could draft another cheap QB and try to stay ahead of the QB inflation problem that way.

Instead we have years of the Cowboys saying they want to do it but not pulling the trigger as QB contract inflation blows past $40m into $45m per.

Tag Dak now and it's like a $38m hit in a season where you have $19m in space BEFORE accounting any cost of keeping Dak. The Cowboys aren't 1 lucky break away from a championship and now you can't make any FA moves so what does that even do but kick the can down the road? Either give up and sign him so you can at least game the cap system with how you structure the deal, or just give up and move on. This in between crap is the worst of all possible worlds and just poisons the well.
 

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A leader should not need to demand respect; unless he really is not a leader...

Now of course its possible that Dak did not actually say anything like that. Anymore unless you have multiple sources of videos of someone saying it don't believe it.

I think ANYONE saying respect is based on how much you are offered is on shaky ground. There is a time honored thing called negotiation you know....

Especially when talking salary cap. I know there are those that somehow think you can pay everyone as much as they want all the time but bluntly speaking hard decisions have to be made.

Now I am certainly not thinking Jethro and company are in any way top of the NFL in anything except getting attention. Not seen much to respect Stephen for certainly and Jethro's record screams for itself.

However when a player seems intent on getting every penny he can when the end result is only going to vary maybe 10% or so and that player is going to get sufficient guaranteed money to live wealthy the rest of his life and that of his family NO MATTER WHAT then I question the part about being a leader.

I exhibit Drew Brees as a player that has consistently pushed to get every cent he can each time he negotiated. and what was the end result? The Saints have only sniffed the SB really once since their win. One can not blame his greed for all of that but can anyone argue it was NOT a contributing factor?
 

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I exhibit Drew Brees as a player that has consistently pushed to get every cent he can each time he negotiated. and what was the end result? The Saints have only sniffed the SB really once since their win. One can not blame his greed for all of that but can anyone argue it was NOT a contributing factor?

And he's just one of several, most quarterbacks demand or want to be the highest paid. Of course that can be total contract, guaranteed money, average salary per year or most for one year.

Nothing unusual in that. And that's just human nature, more so for professional athletes, who have a huge drive to be "the best", whether that be titles, records, salary or whatever.

Can't blame Dak for wanting as much as he can get, as we saw with his injury, a player's career can end in a split second, Dak probably will recover but he could just as easily have been hurt so bad he'd have to retire.

I'd like Dak to be "reasonable" but I'm not in his shoes, and neither is anybody else here, unless we are in his shoes we don't know if we wouldn't do the same as he is doing.

At some point something will happen, tagged again and he plays, tag again and he is traded, a long term deal is signed or whatever, all we can do is wait it out...
 

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I would honestly just sign Dalton, I am not even sure if I would tag him at this point. Draft a QB and don't look back.
That's where I am, they tag him and they're over the cap with 3/5ths of the secondary up on a bad D.

This isn't about Prescott or his contract, it's those other contracts. Simple math, they'll have 41% of their cap in QB-RB-WR, what team can do that?
 

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I would honestly just sign Dalton, I am not even sure if I would tag him at this point. Draft a QB and don't look back.
Sign Dalton and you destroy your current state of lockerroom. These young guys don't respect an old dog in Dalton. Team will fold and fans will scream for draft pick after 4 games. Serve up the rookie QB whom Stephen Jones will piss off with team friendly extension deal in 2023 because he was not rookie of the year like Dak in 2016:muttley:
 

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And he's just one of several, most quarterbacks demand or want to be the highest paid. Of course that can be total contract, guaranteed money, average salary per year or most for one year.

Nothing unusual in that. And that's just human nature, more so for professional athletes, who have a huge drive to be "the best", whether that be titles, records, salary or whatever.

Can't blame Dak for wanting as much as he can get, as we saw with his injury, a player's career can end in a split second, Dak probably will recover but he could just as easily have been hurt so bad he'd have to retire.

I'd like Dak to be "reasonable" but I'm not in his shoes, and neither is anybody else here, unless we are in his shoes we don't know if we wouldn't do the same as he is doing.

At some point something will happen, tagged again and he plays, tag again and he is traded, a long term deal is signed or whatever, all we can do is wait it out...
And none of us possesses that QB ego and the constant comparison to others that they'll all make.

The clause that no other player at my position can be paid more than me has been around longer than the cap. What do we think would happen if another DL got paid more than Donald? We're seeing Rodgers unhappy and he's got 3 years left.

Some fans keep score with how much a player is paid. I believe all players keep score that way. There is a behind the scenes pecking order that relates directly to money.
 

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Sign Dalton and you destroy your current state of lockerroom. These young guys don't respect an old dog in Dalton. Team will fold and fans will scream for draft pick after 4 games. Serve up the rookie QB whom Stephen Jones will piss off with team friendly extension deal in 2023 because he was not rookie of the year like Dak in 2016:muttley:
Just because they sign Dalton doesn't mean he gets QB1 status. If Booger spends his 1st on a QB, he's going to want him on the field and early on. The Cowboys have the best offensive setup for a rookie QB in the top 10 pickers.

The offense in 2016 was the reason Prescott's light was so bright. Same with Marino and Rothliesberger when they were rookies.
 

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Just because they sign Dalton doesn't mean he gets QB1 status. If Booger spends his 1st on a QB, he's going to want him on the field and early on. The Cowboys have the best offensive setup for a rookie QB in the top 10 pickers.
Well Andy Dalton still believes he's a QB1 and has stated so. Assuming that The Cowboys have the best offensive set-up for a rookie QB amongst the top 10 pickers is only true if you are looking at talent on paper WITHOUT Dakota whom was part of that offensive set-up.

This is not a pop and swap league, will the rookie have the same leadership abilities and injury free season like Prescott in 2016???

Are you saying a 10th Overall QB pick has a good enough set-up to replicate Dakota's 2016 season.....we are already setting up the rookie for failure and also diminishing Dakota's credit for the 2016 achievement. 2016 season alone was enough for a Prescott extension in 2018 Off-season, but the Prescotts are not on Stephen Jone's vacation guest list.
The offense in 2016 was the reason Prescott's light was so bright. Same with Marino and Rothliesberger when they were rookies.

So is Dakota's 2016 season the expectation for any possible QB draft pick because The Cowboys have the best offensive setup?
 

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So is Dakota's 2016 season the expectation for any possible QB draft pick because The Cowboys have the best offensive setup?

If you have a stellar offensive line and a running game yes it takes a lot of pressure off the rookie QB. After that it comes down to basic arm talent and the ability to learn the offense and read the defense. That was the situation Dak Prescott got added to. How many QB's had that?
 

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I was thinking the same thing. Kap overestimated on what he thought he was worth and tried to get it thru FA. No one bite and he should have taken the 17 million that the Niners offered him. His play declined after he went to the SB. The league caught up to him and when they decided he was a RB when he took off and doesn’t have the protection of a qb I think he was dead in the water for his career.
Not offered, Kap was under contract for 17 mil and opted out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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None of this song and dance makes any sense to me.

The Cowboys if they really wanted Dak should have extended him the second the CBA allowed it and it would have been like $30m per or something.

If the Cowboys didn't really believe in Dak they should have moved him immediately so they could draft another cheap QB and try to stay ahead of the QB inflation problem that way.

Instead we have years of the Cowboys saying they want to do it but not pulling the trigger as QB contract inflation blows past $40m into $45m per.

Tag Dak now and it's like a $38m hit in a season where you have $19m in space BEFORE accounting any cost of keeping Dak. The Cowboys aren't 1 lucky break away from a championship and now you can't make any FA moves so what does that even do but kick the can down the road? Either give up and sign him so you can at least game the cap system with how you structure the deal, or just give up and move on. This in between crap is the worst of all possible worlds and just poisons the well.
Dude, they offered him that. Where you been?
 

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Well Andy Dalton still believes he's a QB1 and has stated so. Assuming that The Cowboys have the best offensive set-up for a rookie QB amongst the top 10 pickers is only true if you are looking at talent on paper WITHOUT Dakota whom was part of that offensive set-up.

This is not a pop and swap league, will the rookie have the same leadership abilities and injury free season like Prescott in 2016???

Are you saying a 10th Overall QB pick has a good enough set-up to replicate Dakota's 2016 season.....we are already setting up the rookie for failure and also diminishing Dakota's credit for the 2016 achievement. 2016 season alone was enough for a Prescott extension in 2018 Off-season, but the Prescotts are not on Stephen Jone's vacation guest list.


So is Dakota's 2016 season the expectation for any possible QB draft pick because The Cowboys have the best offensive setup?
All Qb's say that.

You get fooled by trannies a lot?
 
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