Give Dak a nonexclusive franchise tag

OmerV

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So by blaming Dak, that means I don't think coaches like Garrett sucked or other players as well... Some more fabrications of what 'my narrative is', only for you to 'refute the fabrications'. You just keep doing it and don't stop.
Here is what you said ..

The only thing you blame anyone else for is having Dak as the QB. Not for decisions not involving Dak, and not other players and units not doing as good a job as needed. In this particular post you claim Dak "crippled the franchise", and that the roster was wasted by "baby sitting Dak ...". No indication defensive struggles have contributed, no recognition there have been some strong Cowboy offenses over the years, or that the coaches did a poor job of preparing or scheming or coaching. Only about Dak, or the decision to use Dak.
 

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Here is what you said ..

The only thing you blame anyone else for is having Dak as the QB. Not for decisions not involving Dak, and not other players and units not doing as good a job as needed. In this particular post you claim Dak "crippled the franchise", and that the roster was wasted by "baby sitting Dak ...". No indication defensive struggles have contributed, no recognition there have been some strong Cowboy offenses over the years, or that the coaches did a poor job of preparing or scheming or coaching. Only about Dak, or the decision to use Dak.

Congratulations and not a single point brought up by you doesn't say I don't think Garrett was a joke of a HC and Jerry's infatuation with him didn't cripple the franchise either, while Romo was there to mask the real ineptitude. And you still continue. And yes, Dak did cripple the franchise.
 

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Congratulations and not a single point brought up by you doesn't say I don't think Garrett was a joke of a HC and Jerry's infatuation with him didn't cripple the franchise either, while Romo was there to mask the real ineptitude. And you still continue. And yes, Dak did cripple the franchise.
lol - not a single point if you exclude the fact that you always blame it all on Dak.

If you blamed others, and other factors, you would say Dak is a factor in the team's failures along with others, and other factors, but you don't. You just repeat over and over that Dak is the reason the team has failed.

It's nonsensical to repeat over and over that Dak ruined the team, and is the reason for team failures, then claim that blaming things entirely on Dak doesn't mean you don't blame anyone else.
 

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THIS REASON ALONE is why I blame the Cowboys FO for all this - they had the mechanism in place to call Todd France's bluff during this whole negotiation. I don't blame the player/agent for trying to get anything they can. That's their responsibility.

It's easy for me to say, but at a certain point I would like to think a player has to consider winning. You can still get a monumental contract and work with the team on cap ramifications. I cant stand players hiding behind their agents either. We are where we are because Dak and Jerry allowed this to happen. If Dak really pins us into a 3 year deal it's going to be difficult to not be critical of his every mistake. I really like him and want to keep him, but my loyalty to a single player has limits.
 

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It's easy for me to say, but at a certain point I would like to think a player has to consider winning. You can still get a monumental contract and work with the team on cap ramifications. I cant stand players hiding behind their agents either. We are where we are because Dak and Jerry allowed this to happen. If Dak really pins us into a 3 year deal it's going to be difficult to not be critical of his every mistake. I really like him and want to keep him, but my loyalty to a single player has limits.

I completely agree. I like Dak - always have. But, I like seeing the Cowboys win EVEN MORE!!!!! I want them to be able to put actual quality players on both sides of the ball...not vets on the downside of their careers that also carry even higher injury risks.
 

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Sure, if you want to be the Commanders, Bears, Broncos, etc.

It is easily the dumbest thing the Cowboys could do. Easily.
LOL we are already those teams with dak I don't think you've thought this through. I have a idea why don't we get the quarterback that won the division last year.
 

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LOL we are already those teams with dak I don't think you've thought this through. I have a idea why don't we get the quarterback that won the division last year.
No, with Dak the Cowboys can throw the ball. THose teams can't. What are you even talking about?
 

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lol - not a single point if you exclude the fact that you always blame it all on Dak.

If you blamed others, and other factors, you would say Dak is a factor in the team's failures along with others, and other factors, but you don't. You just repeat over and over that Dak is the reason the team has failed.

It's nonsensical to repeat over and over that Dak ruined the team, and is the reason for team failures, then claim that blaming things entirely on Dak doesn't mean you don't blame anyone else.

You mean I discuss Dak in a thread about Dak? And I tend to discuss the QB being the main problem, because he is the biggest factor in a team’s success or failure?

Let’s be clear again:

You have ZERO say in the topics I prefer to talk about. Whether I discuss Dak more or not is irrelevant to your bogus narratives that you try to ‘impose’ on me, though I never claimed it as such. You still haven’t brought a single shred of evidence to substantiate the argument that I think Dak is the sole problem of the Cowboys.
 

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No, with Dak the Cowboys can throw the ball. THose teams can't. What are you even talking about?


"No, with Dak the Cowboys can throw the ball (after going down by 3 scores or more)"

There i fixed it for you.

I think people forget that Dak, for the most part, sucked early in those games and his yards came after the defense went prevent.

During the Browns game the commentators literally said this and people still cant seem to grasp that a defense doesn't care about yards as long as the clock keeps going .
 

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We could get lucky and receive 2 first round picks for him. The Colts traded for Wentz so they're out of the running. The Saints don't have enough cap room. Maybe a team like the Panthers (8th pick), Jets (2nd pick), or Broncos (9th pick) sign him.
Sign and trade........... Bring in a TEAM player, someone who isn't after his weight in gold.
 

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"No, with Dak the Cowboys can throw the ball (after going down by 3 scores or more)"

There i fixed it for you.

I think people forget that Dak, for the most part, sucked early in those games and his yards came after the defense went prevent.


During the Browns game the commentators literally said this and people still cant seem to grasp that a defense doesn't care about yards as long as the clock keeps going .
This is total garbage.
 

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You mean I discuss Dak in a thread about Dak? And I tend to discuss the QB being the main problem, because he is the biggest factor in a team’s success or failure?

Let’s be clear again:

You have ZERO say in the topics I prefer to talk about. Whether I discuss Dak more or not is irrelevant to your bogus narratives that you try to ‘impose’ on me, though I never claimed it as such. You still haven’t brought a single shred of evidence to substantiate the argument that I think Dak is the sole problem of the Cowboys.
No, that's not what I mean. What I mean is you discuss Dak in an unfair, and inaccurate manner. You don't say Dak is a factor, or even the main factor in the team not having the desired success. You say Dak is THE reason.

And, you are wrong about me having zero say. This is a forum that is open to discussion, and anyone who posts is subject to having those posts commented on. You included.
 

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this is a dumb idea but if the negotiations are deteriorating than there is no harm in trying ,atleast we get 2 draft picks out of it.
 

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No, that's not what I mean. What I mean is you discuss Dak in an unfair, and inaccurate manner. You don't say Dak is a factor, or even the main factor in the team not having the desired success. You say Dak is THE reason.

And, you are wrong about me having zero say. This is a forum that is open to discussion, and anyone who posts is subject to having those posts commented on. You included.

Let me make this clear again:

I have never said Dak is solely the fault of the team loses period. You continue to maintain this position with zero evidence and refute a false narrative, after this latest discussion over your last narrative that “Dak puton a smiley face even though he knew he has scrub WRs”.

And I never said you don’t have zero say. What I said is you have zero say over what I choose to talk about. I can blame Dak all I want, whether you like it or not. None of it changes the fact that I don’t think Garrett sucked or Jaylon Smith is a comedy at LB.
 

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Let me make this clear again:

I have never said Dak is solely the fault of the team loses period. You continue to maintain this position with zero evidence and refute a false narrative, after this latest discussion over your last narrative that “Dak puton a smiley face even though he knew he has scrub WRs”.

And I never said you don’t have zero say. What I said is you have zero say over what I choose to talk about. I can blame Dak all I want, whether you like it or not. None of it changes the fact that I don’t think Garrett sucked or Jaylon Smith is a comedy at LB.
So, what you are saying is that when you write things like …..

Dak ruined the team … Dak crippled the franchise … Dak has wasted the talent ...

Those comments should be interpreted by the reader as if you said ….

The team has fallen short because Dak is the QB along with a bad defense, poor coaching, poor player acquisition, poor management, and injury problems.


I'm sorry, but you ruined the board … you crippled the website … you have wasted the writing talent of other posters …

Does that feel like I am spreading blame around?
 
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It's funny that people claim that Dak is not elite yet his projected -and met- production of 5000 yards 34 TD is top 5.

Equally funny that people claim Dak's losing record in 2020, in less then 5 complete games, is suggestive of the fact that Dak would somehow translate into a record season. He played less then 5 games. His record in those games, 1 win, 3 losses and 1 incomplete. So I guess if we use this methodology for Dak, his projected record is something like 3-10-3. Maybe one more win, maybe one more loss but that's what it looks like. So, it's pretty simple to me, do you want to sign a guy who is going to give you 5K yards, 34 TDs but only 3 or 4 wins a season or do you want a QB who might put up lessor stats but post more wins and get you into the post season?
 

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They couldnt trade Dak even if he was on board with it. Nobody is going to give up a 1st round pick for a player that has yet to come back from his latest injury.

I don't know about this H. Not every team is going to get a QB this year, who needs one. Now, this is the best year for QBs coming out in a long time IMO. Next year, it's going to be kinda bad according to the personnel guys. So if you want a QB, say a team like New Orleans, this might be your chance to get a deal done. It might be your best chance in the next couple of years, as a matter of fact. I do think there is a market out there. I think it just has to be the right situation. I think a team like Nola would be a good fit for Dak, if they decided to make a trade. I think Payton and Jerry can work a deal because Jerry knows Payton and he likes Payton. I think that if you can figure out how to do that deal, it's a deal that could be done, assuming each team could find the resources.
 
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