Tanking is one of the most cowardly things a team could do

[TwoCentPlain]

@Whirlwin Colts got Peyton Manning, Chargers got Ryan Leaf. Penguins tanked and got Mario Lemieux.

We will find out very shortly if Trevor Lawrence was worth tanking by the Jags. If Lawrence is head and shoulders above Wilson, then the Jags were smart and the Jets idiots. Tanking sometimes is the most strategic and smartest thing to do when a season is absolutely lost and nothing to be gained by winning.

Almost all fans are ok with tanking. They get it. The Jason Garrett’s of this world don’t get it.

 

[Reid1boys]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

2 years after having Trevor lawrence behind center will make everyone completely forget you lost that meaningless game to the jets in week 12 of a long ago season.

Can disagree with you more. Now tanking to be in the middle of first rd? nah, but tanking for a generational talent like Marino, Elway, Lawrence that could change your team from a loser to a SB contender for 15 years is well worth tanking a few games.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I feel the opposite of the OP. Being cowardly is taking the easy way out of a situation to avoid backlash or personal harm.

To take a group of men who’ve been competitive all their life, tell them not to be, and risk the reputation of your NFL franchise just to move up a few draft slots takes a huge amount of balls. The easy way out is to never consider it... tanking has enormous risk long term for your team and the sport as a whole.

Having said that, it is very poor use of a risk/reward construct. If you tank you’ll never be anything more than the team that tanks... that’s the pop culture situation we live in today.

Cowardly? No. A bad idea for your team in the short term, long term, and the sport as a whole? Yes, yes, and yes. Bravery, Courage, or in This case ‘Strength of will’ can be born of ignorance and misplaced.

 

[Verdict]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

Are you one of those guys that believe draft position doesn't matter? LOL

 

[charron]

Call it whatever you want but if you are 2-9 with your starters maybe go ahead and start seeing what some of your younger guys/ rookies can do. Maybe go ahead and trade or cut guys that are months away from free agency and could give you some cap space if there is no intention of re-signing them. Not saying lose of purpose but stop being afraid to expand the use of your role players and younger players.

 

[CATCH17]

@Whirlwin Colts got Peyton Manning, Chargers got Ryan Leaf. Penguins tanked and got Mario Lemieux.


Almost all fans are ok with tanking. They get it. The Jason Garrett’s of this world don’t get it.

 

[Hardline]

You don't tank.
You go all out to win with 3rd stringers and practice squad players.
A lot of people here just can't comprehend that.
Going on a winning streak to close out the season rarely carries over to the following season with this team.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Some people don’t like a different opinion. How many 3-13 seasons would you trade for a Super Bowl...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Being in the middle consistently is the absolute worst position to be in sports. That's just common knowledge and as a Cowboy fan I don't get how that point eludes you.

In the NFL its not the worst position to be in sports. NBA yes I would agree.

Because I've seen teams be middle of the pack like the Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens, Packers and go on to win Super Bowls. It can literally change in one year.

I think what's eluding you is that you think the NFL is this long "process" that Garrett sold this fanbase. Its not. You don't have to stink for years in order to get good. Those days are long gone. You don't just go from "terrible" to Super Bowl. That's not how it works. No matter what path you take. Whether its to be "mediocre" or "terrible"....you will have to get to the middle before you get to the top.

Nah. Rolling over and getting pushed around all game long is also cowardly. Giving up that much rushing yardage isn’t just lack of talent. It’s lack of heart. Our defense has players that lack heart. That’s facts

YeahI disagree. We can't sit here and blame heart because guys leave here and all of a sudden get heart in other places. I was told Martellus Bennett lacks heart. I saw Terrence Newman get accused of lacking heart but somehow found it in Cinci and Minnesota.

You want to try and convince me that Everson Griffen sucked last year because of his "heart"? His heart has never been questioned until he gets to Dallas....I think "heart" is just a scapegoat for what the real issue is and this defense sucked last year from Nolan down. No amount of heart could save Nolan's defense.

 

[CATCH17]

In the NFL its not the worst position to be in sports. NBA yes I would agree.

Because I've seen teams be middle of the pack like the Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens, Packers and go on to win Super Bowls. It can literally change in one year.

I think what's eluding you is that you think the NFL is this long "process" that Garrett sold this fanbase. Its not. You don't have to stink for years in order to get good. Those days are long gone. You don't just go from "terrible" to Super Bowl. That's not how it works. No matter what path you take. Whether its to be "mediocre" or "terrible"....you will have to get to the middle before you get to the top.

I don't think that at all.

I think teams who make big changes get potential big rewards though.

That is how you get quick turn arounds. Dallas never makes significant change. They stay on the same path and get similar results.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It needs to come from management and not the coach.

Management needs to step in and not tell them to tank but get them to play some guys that maybe shouldn't be playing.

You don't have to stop effort on the field from players and coaches in order to tank.

The Jets losing Trevor Lawrence was just moronic and that win they got against whoever it was does nothing for that franchise going forward besides losing the best QB prospect in a long time.

I will never endorse tanking or intentional losing BUT I have to admit IF it's going to be done, you're right here. It has to come from the very top where players and/or have no control and quite frankly I'm sure this happens all the time. Certainly, more than fans realize. But still, it's an ugly thing......notice the heat Pederson for tanking the Eagles' final game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Some people don’t like a different opinion. How many 3-13 seasons would you trade for a Super Bowl...

It depends....how many teams go from being 3-13 to winning a Super Bowl?

You don't tank.
You go all out to win with 3rd stringers and practice squad players.
A lot of people here just can't comprehend that.
Going on a winning streak to close out the season rarely carries over to the following season with this team.

Isn't that what they did? Their starters were guys like Donovan Wilson, Brandon Knight, Terrence Steele.......they literally played their backups and rookies....if you are saying they should play ALL backups and 3rd stringers than that's just simply unrealistic. By seasons end they didn't have Dak, Tyron, Collins, Zack Martin, Blake Jarwin....Gerald McCoy didn't even play a snap......

 

[Hardline]

What I would love to see is the NFL move to a recruiting system like college.
Any team can negotiate with any player. The salary cap will level the playing field between every team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't think that at all.

I think teams who make big changes get potential big rewards though.

That is how you get quick turn arounds. Dallas never makes significant change. They stay on the same path and get similar results.

I'm in no disagreement there. I'm not arguing in favor of the Cowboys approach. Its very silly and if it does eventually work....it will be luck. They are not following the blueprint to build a winner. A blueprint that's been written by a few teams.

I'm just disagreeing with this "I'd rather be bad than mediocre" argument you're making. I don't think that's the correct approach either. There's no proof that being 2-12 will lead to more success than being 8-8 will. It just doesn't.

 

[Sydla]

Tanking is a smart thing to do in the right situations. Granted, I am not sure it has the same value in the NFL that it would have in the NBA or NHL drafts where the true elite players often come right from the top of the draft.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm in no disagreement there. I'm not arguing in favor of the Cowboys approach. Its very silly and if it does eventually work....it will be luck. They are not following the blueprint to build a winner. A blueprint that's been written by a few teams.

I'm just disagreeing with this "I'd rather be bad than mediocre" argument you're making. I don't think that's the correct approach either. There's no proof that being 2-12 will lead to more success than being 8-8 will. It just doesn't.

Doesn't matter.

Getting higher picks bring more quality and opportunity to trade back and get more picks.

We know that the paying a Dak Prescott type route vs the Cheap rookie QB route is a recipe for championship success.

 

[foofighters]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

What's worse than that is doing things the same way over and over again and hoping for a different result.

This is the very definition of a Jerry led team...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Doesn't matter.

Getting higher picks bring more quality and opportunity to trade back and get more picks.

We know that the paying a Dak Prescott type route vs the Cheap rookie QB route is a recipe for championship success.

It does matter. Getting higher picks does not equate into success. If it did the Jaguars would be one of the best teams in the league lol.

It all sounds good in theory. Get bad picks...build team....win Super Bowl. Sounds great. But there is no proof that it results into building a legit contender or Super Bowl winner.

Ehhh that opinion is somewhat flawed. Having a cheap rookie QB doesn't guarantee success. The examples are Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco......but what you guys don't tell people is that those teams were STACKED. It takes more than just having cheap deal. You also have to have great players around those rookie QB's as well.

 

[CATCH17]

It does matter. Getting higher picks does not equate into success. If it did the Jaguars would be one of the best teams in the league lol.

It all sounds good in theory. Get bad picks...build team....win Super Bowl. Sounds great. But there is no proof that it results into building a legit contender or Super Bowl winner.

Ehhh that opinion is somewhat flawed. Having a cheap rookie QB doesn't guarantee success. The examples are Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco......but what you guys don't tell people is that those teams were STACKED. It takes more than just having cheap deal. You also have to have great players around those rookie QB's as well.

That't the whole point of the cheap QB. The ability to stack your team.

 

[BigD_95]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

there is ways to take without losing the locker-room. You play all the young guys and rest your starters