Tanking is one of the most cowardly things a team could do

[CATCH17]

So tanking was part of Belichick's plan? What about that season when they lost Tom Brady and still managed an 11 and 5 record with Matt Cassell at QB? Was that tanking?

I don't see a correlation..

We were like a 2-4 team or something worse I don't remember.

 

[OmerV]

hey thats my question to him, stealer lol
i'm looking for that vaunted list that proves this theory on tanking works..it hasn't worked for most the the bad teams picking top 5 10+ years in row..i mean we know those teams.. none have won A sb 5 years after allegedly tanking..

You think I made it through school without plagiarizing?

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I don't see a correlation..

We were like a 2-4 team or something worse I don't remember.

He said Belichick would do anything to win, as if that included tanking. Well, Belichick doesn't do that.

 

[CATCH17]

He said Belichick would do anything to win, as if that included tanking. Well, Belichick doesn't do that.

Belichick has a nice resume of things he would do to win a game.. I'm sorry this specific thing hasn't shown up on the list yet of things he's willing to do to win.

 

[OmerV]

I don't see a correlation..

We were like a 2-4 team or something worse I don't remember.

What 2-4 team do you know that tanked 60-65% of the season as a pathway to a Super Bowl victory in a few years?

 

[CATCH17]

What 2-4 team do you know that tanked 60-65% of the season as a pathway to a Super Bowl victory in a few years?

Dunno & don't care..

My thought at the time is we have a chance to upgrade at QB for the long term for cheaper.

Get the mediocre Dak and his horrible contract out of here and get a superior talent in Lawrence and for cheaper.

Not only would I be much more optimistic about our future I would actually see this team as more entertaining instead of the boring / predictable product they are now.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Belichick has a nice resume of things he would do to win a game.. I'm sorry this specific thing hasn't shown up on the list yet of things he's willing to do to win.

That's my point. Tanking is about the last thing he would do.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

Tanking is the short term view. "We would get a better draft pick". So let's say that works, what do you do the next year? Tank again?

Of course that's the problem with the Cowboys. No long term plan, at least none that I can see. They operate by panic management. A problem crops up, they dump resources on that problem. Next problem, same thing.

Maybe I'm just dumb. (Hey no comments needed, I have a wife and kids for that). But I don't see any thought-out plan to build a good team....

 

[CATCH17]

Tanking is the short term view. "We would get a better draft pick". So let's say that works, what do you do the next year? Tank again?

Of course that's the problem with the Cowboys. No long term plan, at least none that I can see. They operate by panic management. A problem crops up, they dump resources on that problem. Next problem, same thing.

Maybe I'm just dumb. (Hey no comments needed, I have a wife and kids for that). But I don't see any thought-out plan to build a good team....

The plan is to torch this mediocre team to the ground and start over.

The Cowboys plan is to just be good enough to keep people interested and do stupid things like sign mediocre QB's to 40 million dollar deals so they can remain relevant.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yup, tanking leads to nothing good

We would have Lawrence as a potential franchise quarterback and save 40 million against the salary cap

Yup, nothing positive about tanking........and as for ethics and morality, they when out the door some time ago

You are making an assumption that Lawrence would be any good.

"potential"? LOL.....Some of you guys...it's really surprising you aren't running your own NFL teams.

Meanwhile....intentionally losing ...there's nothing "potential" about it. Poison.

 

[MaineBoy]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

Puhleeeese.....leave words like “cowardly” in the real world for men and woman who face real danger and deal with issues like courage and cowardice....You using that word to describe whether a crummy football team tanks a meaningless game is laughable...Drama Queen much, my man ?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dunno & don't care..

My thought at the time is we have a chance to upgrade at QB for the long term for cheaper.

Get the mediocre Dak and his horrible contract out of here and get a superior talent in Lawrence and for cheaper.

Not only would I be much more optimistic about our future I would actually see this team as more entertaining instead of the boring / predictable product they are now.

"superior talent"....lol. Remains to be seen. Try to have smidgen of humbleness sheesh.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Puhleeeese.....leave words like “cowardly” in the real world for men and woman who face real danger and deal with issues like courage and cowardice....You using that word to describe whether a crummy football team tanks a meaningless game is laughable...Drama Queen much, my man ?

So you don't know any ordinary joe cowards, eh?

 

[MaineBoy]

So you don't know any ordinary joe cowards, eh?

Who play football on a crummy team ? Lol

 

[dckid]

In my opinion. It’s one of the most cowardly things a team could do. Nothing positive comes from it. It can destroy a locker room. It creates a losing mentality. All those people that want us to tank and lose games on purpose. What a waste it would’ve been. It would not have given us a better First round draft choice. Specifically because we’re going to be able to take the best Defensive player in this draft. I hope this such a great example of why you never tank . You just don’t know what the result of it is going to bring. Other than Negativity. Go cowboys hope you have a great draft

You have a right to your opinion, but you are wrong.
Did you know that Jimmy Johnson tanked in 1989? Why do you think he traded Walker? He knew you had to hit rock bottom, flush the roster and then you would have a chance to hit the lottery. I am not saying every tank ends up in a SB winner in year 4. 1-15,7-9,11-5,13-3(SB), 12-4 (SB)
They just didn't call it tanking back then.
Let's look at the Dolphins. They are are probably one of the smartest if not the smartest organization in the league. Love their coach and GM.
They had the Texans #3 pick and look at what the Niners traded for that spot?
The Dolphins traded their 3rd pick to the 49ers in exchange for the No. 12 pick this year, a first- and third-round pick in 2022 and a first-round pick in 2023.
You are acting as if the Cowboys are the San Antonio Spurs who had that run of 50 win seasons or the Patriots since 2001.
Even the Falcons at the #4 pick have a lot of options. The league is getting smarter and smarter They know the benefit of having a fixed cost at QB. There are two options..
Superstar QB who is paid very well, and cheap young QB that you hope will pan out.
We have a QB who is way over his ski's in terms of salary, and this will be just like the Vikings, Ravens with Flacco, Jimmy G, Goff, Wentz.
Tanking is just the bad way of saying, you have to get really bad before you can bounce up. All the great franchises have to do it one time or another.

Just look at Jerry's run as GM, 1994- 2020. In the first few years he was running off the fumes of Jimmy Johnson, then by the end of the 90's that team was done. The next few years he was bad under Campo, then he got Bill to bring some respect back to the franchise. From 2007 to now he realized that this organization needs to be competitive and that is all the fans, media care about.
Jerry DOES NOT care about winning a SB. You can repeat all the crap he says, but just watch what he does. He cares about the hype, Sunday night fighting for the last playoff spot, Skip& Shannon, First take. He just wants the team to be in the news cycle. So his biggest fear is to be irrelevant.
He doest not want to be 3-13. He see's no upside in winning a SB. He already has three, he already makes more profit & revenue than any other team. Just like everything in life. He does not have the incentive to win. That is the bottom line.
We will all be here over the next 5, 10, 20 years and nothing will change. This team is not motivated to win a SB. Jerry does not come with the goal of asking how can this team win a SB.

 

[jnday]

Make no mistake about it my cowboy brother. That’s exactly what some of these fans wants the team to do. Lose on purpose

Teams can not go out and intentionally lose in the manner that you are imagining. The league wouldn’t allow it. Playing backups and experimenting with different players at different positions would help the team evaluate the unproven players in the roster for the next season. They could treat the meaningless games like preseason games and it would help the team more than a meaningless win in a season where there is no hope of playing in the post-season. I don’t even have to mention the improvement in draft position to justify playing these games for talent evaluations. Giving a backup QB experience or allowing players like Anae to get some playing time would only help the team in the long term.

 

[OmerV]

Dunno & don't care..

My thought at the time is we have a chance to upgrade at QB for the long term for cheaper.

Get the mediocre Dak and his horrible contract out of here and get a superior talent in Lawrence and for cheaper.

Not only would I be much more optimistic about our future I would actually see this team as more entertaining instead of the boring / predictable product they are now.

lol, so it doesn't matter if tanking the majority of the season doesn't actually accomplish the goal, or even harms the team, just do it because we don't like Dak or his contract?

Yes, there is a "chance" we could have upgraded for cheaper, and there is easily as much of a "chance" that we could have downgraded while at the same time teaching the team that coaches and management are quitters who have no confidence in the players outside of the QB, and instilling the mindset that losing is okay.

I'm sorry, I just don't buy that as a way to improve a team.

 

[OmerV]

Teams can not go out and intentionally lose in the manner that you are imagining. The league wouldn’t allow it. Playing backups and experimenting with different players at different positions would help the team evaluate the unproven players in the roster for the next season. They could treat the meaningless games like preseason games and it would help the team more than a meaningless win in a season where there is no hope of playing in the post-season. I don’t even have to mention the improvement in draft position to justify playing these games for talent evaluations. Giving a backup QB experience or allowing players like Anae to get some playing time would only help the team in the long term.

That would work if it is late in the season and the team has no chance for the playoffs, but the Cowboys had a chance to make the playoffs until almost the very end, and some in this thread are saying the Cowboys should have been tanking at least 60-70% of the season. A couple have even said we shouldn't have tried to win the Atlanta game in Week 2. The league would have stood up and taken notice if we had done that.

 

[kskboys]

What 2-4 team do you know that tanked 60-65% of the season as a pathway to a Super Bowl victory in a few years?

Dallas Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson. I guess Jimmy is Mr. Coward then.

 

[kskboys]

Belichick has a nice resume of things he would do to win a game.. I'm sorry this specific thing hasn't shown up on the list yet of things he's willing to do to win.

Belly is an exception and an outlyer. As soon as he is our HC, we wouldn't need to tank.